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Re: Teaching
By: Adric Date: January 23, 2018, 3:18 pm
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Is there any connection between Billy Worley and the Mr. Worley
that you drafted to witness Tyler's paddling?
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Re: Teaching
By: jackson Date: January 23, 2018, 4:00 pm
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"Tyler came in for class this morning, and I asked how he was.
He looked around a second, then said, "I'm fine now. I was
pretty sore at bedtime. Thanks for letting me off."
Apparently his dad teased him about his decision making skills"
Does that mean that Tyler's dad did give him a spanking with the
strap that evening for getting into trouble at school?
You think Tyler's dad has the rule that whenever he get paddled
at school he get the same number of licks of the strap he got
with the paddle and that was why he wanted to negotiate down the
number of swats he was going to get from you even though that
meant his paddling was going to be pants down?
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Re: Teaching
By: Jack Date: January 23, 2018, 4:04 pm
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None close. The Worley Clan is fairly large in our town, so
they probably are distant cousins of some type, but not day to
day family.
[quote author=jackson link=topic=349.msg3167#msg3167
date=1516744855]
Does that mean that Tyler's dad did give him a spanking with the
strap that evening for getting into trouble at school?
You think Tyler's dad has the rule that whenever he get paddled
at school he get the same number of licks of the strap he got
with the paddle and that was why he wanted to negotiate down the
number of swats he was going to get from you even though that
meant his paddling was going to be pants down?
[/quote]
From what he told me yesterday, I believe that if Tyler gets
licks at school, he gets at least the same number at home, and
on the bare (he implied, not stated, the last). So yeah,
getting three on his underpants probably was a good decision, if
it meant only getting three more bare later. It did confuse me
a bit, because I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have made that trade.
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Re: Teaching
By: jackson Date: January 24, 2018, 5:13 pm
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"I fetched my paddle, then the three of us stepped into the
empty class room next to mine. I moved a paddle next to the
wall, had Tyler lower his trousers to his knees, then bend over
and hold the front legs."
I presume you meant "...moved a chair next to the wall..."
What position did you have Tyler get into for his paddling, did
you have him bend over the back of the chair and hold the front
legs or bend in front of the chair and do the same?
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Re: Teaching
By: Jack Date: January 24, 2018, 5:17 pm
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I actually already know a number of the boys I'm teaching. Some
I'm close with (like Emmet), while others are friends of other
kids whom I've seen around. However, there are a couple worth
talking a bit more about.
There's one boy named Ralph, who's in 8th grade. I believe he's
already 14.
Ralph is a pretty average looking kid, except for a bit of a
week chin, nice eyes, and very thick, slightly curly brown hair.
He's probably about average size for that age - about 5'6" or
so, and thinnish - maybe 125 lbs. He has a nice, low tenor
voice, and he's willing to talk, so I already like him.
When I was leaving yesterday, I stopped to talk to Marcus.
Between me being in the hospital, and several birthdays, along
with other things, this month has been a bit off kilter I
wanted to make sure we all had our ducks in a row. He had a
gym class, and I found him in the locker room. While I was
chatting with Marcus, Ralph walked in, went to a locker, and
started stripping down. He wears white, Fruit of the Loom
briefs. He has a firm build, with just a hint of a waist and
hips, and while his buttocks are a bit deeply dimpled on the
sides, they're nicely arched out in the back. As I was leaving,
he saw me and waved, turning enough to reveal he also seems to
have a nice bulge.
[quote author=jackson link=topic=349.msg3199#msg3199
date=1516835622]
"I fetched my paddle, then the three of us stepped into the
empty class room next to mine. I moved a paddle next to the
wall, had Tyler lower his trousers to his knees, then bend over
and hold the front legs."
I presume you meant "...moved a chair next to the wall..."
What position did you have Tyler get into for his paddling, did
you have him bend over the back of the chair and hold the front
legs or bend in front of the chair and do the same?
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Yes, sorry - that's exactly what I meant.
You're right about the position. Because of the backs on these
chairs, I had him go over the back and grab the front legs. I do
it different at home, but the chairs in the class room have a
solid back, so it would be more difficult to do it the way I do
at home.
I certainly hope he continues to behave. He's cute enough I
might feel a little guilty about paddling him.
[hr]
I mentioned that I have one very young student. His name's
Gary. He's 11. He's very small (about 4'7" or 8" and maybe 60
or 65 pounds). He also tests above the 99.9 percentile, and
reads on a college level. The problem is that he's not well
socialized, so they put him in with me, since my class is
supposed to require a lot of interaction.
His mom came in with him this morning. She found that he'd been
reading ahead and was nearly finished with the book, and she was
upset with him for not staying with the class. Gary came in,
said hello, then put on his ear buds and started messing with
his phone.
I assured her that there was nothing wrong with what he'd done,
and that I had been the same type of student.
The poor lady practically collapsed. She seems like a very
nice, and reasonably intelligent woman, but she's single, and it
seems obvious she has trouble keeping up with him. Her ex is
involved with Gary, but he's a long haul trucker, and he'll over
be out of town for four to six weeks at a time. When he's home,
he helps, but he's not there that much.
I think she really liked having someone to talk to who
understood things. I implied I'd raised a kid like Gary, and I
have in some ways, but the real truth is that I was a kid like
Gary.
We talked for about 15 minutes, and mostly it was just her
asking about boys and what I want to do in class, and my own
experiences. We got around to discipline (funny how that
happens around me), and she said that she 'couldn't stick to her
guns' so it was real hard for her to ground him or take his
games. "I know spanking's not supposed to be good, but if I do
that, I can't go back and change my mind later. I hate hearing
him cry, and seeing his little butt turn red, but it works best
--- unless I just want to take his phone for a couple of hours,
which works for some stuff. And he hates standing in the
corner."
Now, I hate to jump to conclusions, but I love what that 'watch
his little butt turn red' implies.
I finally brought her to a close a few minutes before the bell
rung, and invited Gary to join us. I told him that I had no
trouble with him reading ahead, but I also needed him to keep up
and participate in the classroom discussions. He promised to do
that, and in return, I decided to let him help with other stuff
that needs to be done - like he spent part of class today
shelving part of our new, class room library.
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Re: Teaching
By: Zyngaru Date: January 24, 2018, 6:38 pm
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So Jack. Did you reassure Gary's mom that spanking little Gary
is a good way to discipline, because it gets right to the bottom
(His Bottom) of the problem and is then over with. Some corner
time afterward could be a good idea so Gary can think about what
he was just spanked for, and not go off into another
intellectual endeavor?
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Re: Teaching
By: Jack Date: January 25, 2018, 4:55 am
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I don't necessarily think spanking IS a good way of discipline.
What I did tell her was to assure her that many more parents
still spank than some people suspect, so she shouldn't feel bad
about it. I also pointed out that, the way studies are often
phrased, it seems much more likely that it's not spanking that
has bad effects on kids, but the way spankings are applied and
the things that go along with it. A parent who doesn't scream
and yell and constantly threaten, who explains things and
teaches, and who has a good relationship with their kid, can
spank (as one tool in their arsenal) when needed, without doing
any harm. It's parents who scream and yell and have no
tolerance who harm their kids, and they can do that without
spanking.
I also did point out that what she said - that you get it over
with and move on - is on of the biggest benefits of it, as long
as you make sure to use it only when earned.
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Re: Teaching
By: Jack Date: January 27, 2018, 4:33 pm
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I argued with myself for a day or two about where to put this,
but I think it goes better here.
Thursday morning, after class, I went into the office to check
out. Mr. P was standing by the councilor's office - I believe
he was on the phone (the councilor, not Mr. P). He glanced at
me when I came in.
"Mr. Wells. Great. Have you got a few moments free?"
I shrugged. I was going to go grocery shopping, go home to
lunch, then nap, so nothing that couldn't wait a few moments.
"Great, I have a rather frustrating young man who needs a
witness."
Well, that certainly sounded like it had possibilities, so I
followed him.
Now, I wouldn't have sold this kid beer without carding him, but
I believed he could be the 18 year old senior he was introduced
as. He had a nice, kind of average book, and a fairly lean
build. I believe his name was Reeve, but his last name was
unusual and I don't think I actually caught it.
I have to take a minute or two to explain the situation, as Mr.
P explained it to me.
You have to understand that the students at BCA have two parking
options: the student lot, which requires a sticker be bought
(though scholarship students can get free passes by doing a
small amount of community service there, and I mean small -
Perry and Christian both had passes like that, and they did less
than 10 hours CS in a semester). The other is to park on the
side of the street at the far side of the campus - not ideal.
There is also the teacher lot (restricted to teachers, subs, and
tutors) and the guest lot for parents, new prospects, and
councilors.
Reeve was in for his fourth violation this year.
I knew (hoped) Van would be getting his DL next month, so I
bought him a pass to get him as good as spot as a sophomore can
get. A couple of weeks after school started, someone realized
that Reeve was parking in it. He got a warning.
Maybe a month later, Reeve was caught trying to park in one of
the extra spots in the back of the teacher lot. That time he
was paddled.
I think not long after Thanksgiving last year, Reeve was caught
parking in the student lot again. This time he was hit with
ticket for a fine - $50, I think.
This time, Reeve had parked in the guest lot, but he hadn't
driven his own car. In one of those cases of kid logic, he
apparently thought no one would notice that his dad wasn't at
the school, or notice that the car was registered to the same
last name, who happened to live at the same address he did.
He was called to the office.
At this time, Mr. P was pretty fed up with Reeve, and the next
level fine was $100. Reeve was apparently allergic to that
figure. They offered to tow the car, but there was another
option. Since Reeve was already 18, they didn't even have to
call his parents in. Reeve was allowed to take 8 swats - bare -
and do ten hours community service in the parking areas, 1 hour
a day after school for two weeks.
That seemed rather harsh to me at first, but I only had to think
about it for a minute. Not only was Reee wilfully, continually
disobeying school policy, but he was deliberately taking
advantage of all the other kids who were paying their share -
either by cash or labor. You see way too much of that kind of
thing in the world today - an 'all for me' type of mindset, and
I don't blame Mr. P for reacting strongly to it... Especially
not on the fourth offense.
The chair was positioned, and Reeve took his place behind it.
Mr. P fetched his paddle and stepped into place. Reeve was
instructed to lower his pants. he took them down a bit, but
they were loose enough that they hit his ankles right away. He
slipped his thumbs into the waistband of his American Eagle
boxers (a kind of multi-shade blue and white plaid) and shoved
them down as far as his hands went - about mid-thigh. He then
bent over the back of the chair and grabbed the front legs.
"Reeve, you need to either stand and lift your shirt, or I'll do
it."
Reeve stood, lifting his white, short-sleeved Oxford and his
undershirt clear of his waist, then went back into position.
Reeve wasn't in bad shape, but he did have a hint of love
handles, which was nice, because he had a great rear that was
barely dimpled at all. While his cheeks were still smooth, he
did have some hair in the crack. Disappointing, but hardly
shocking.
Remember that, since he's allowed to use more swats, Mr. P's
paddles tend to be a bit smaller. He was able to give 8 swats
in a slightly changing pattern. The first four were top of the
crack, lower crack, center of left cheek, center of right check.
Reeve managed to take those pretty well. But the next set was
basic quadrants - top left, top right, bottom left, bottom
right, and the bottom swats caught the sit spots and an inch or
so of legs. There was much more overlap in those.
By the time Reeve was about to receive the seventh swat, he was
calling out with each, and his legs were trembling. By the
eighth, his upper body was also shaking, though he managed to
hold the noise from the sobs in.
He stood, but took a minute to rub, and I'm sure his butt had to
be burning, as well as throbbing. When Mr. P moved around to
put the paddle away, Reeve turned a bit, which showed me that he
wasn't just reasonably well hung, but that it looked like he
might be a bit firm. Then he realized how he'd turned, and he
grabbed up his boxers.
His eyes were very red, and a bit damp, but he'd managed not to
really break down and cry. He was one very regretful boy as he
dressed and prepared to go clean up and move his car before
heading back to class.
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Re: Teaching
By: Zyngaru Date: January 27, 2018, 7:39 pm
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What do you want to bet that Reeve will park in the lots again.
He's done it four times. (caught four times) No reason to
think there won't be a fifth.
Does Mr. P know WHY he is parking where he is not allowed to
park? Whatever the reason, it is greater than getting paddled
or paying fines.
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Re: Teaching
By: Adric Date: January 27, 2018, 8:27 pm
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This seems like the appropriate place to put this story
considering it is at the school and associated with your
teaching activity.
Considering the multiple violations, I think Reeve got just
about what he had coming.
I wasn't quite clear on what Reeve would have faced if he had
said, "Oh yeah, I'll pay the fine. Here's a Franklin." Would
that be the end of it and he moves his car and then heads on
back to class, or is it a little more complicated?
Did they trace the car from the license plate through the
police? How else would they know the name and address of the
registered owner and trace it back to Reeve?
I'm not very much in favor of monetary fines for such things as
this, as money means a great deal more to some people than it
does to others. There are people who repeatedly break the laws
simply because they have plenty of money to pay the resulting
fines.
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