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Types of Spanko and Types of Spankings
By: Jack Date: November 7, 2024, 11:46 am
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In my series Central Point High school (and, to a lesser extent,
in Dad and Me), I have been dealing with different reasons for
spanking.
BTW - this is a post I'm really seeking a lot of feedback for.
If you agree with me, I'd like to know, but I'd really like to
hear places where you disagree with me or see something I
missed.
First of all, let me link this thread that Plagosus started some
time ago, which covers a similar topic -
HTML https://jackshouse.createaforum.com/on-spanking/boys-who-seek-cp/
Caveat - I don't think I have to say this for anyone on this
forum, but just in case - We are only discussing legitimate
spankings here. From a story standpoint, bullying and
humiliation do have their places, and even possibly abuse, but
let's not consider them here. Having said that...
Let's start with the very simple definition that spankings are
either done for discipline/punishment of for some type of fun.
From there, let's look back at Plagosus' thread. He suggests
five types of 'boys who seek CP' and DB105 added a sixth, and
Adric an seventh.
1. Alpha Male (submission to).
2. Bravura
3. Rite of Passage
4. Attention Seeking
5. pain = pleasure
6. guilt/catharsis
7. Peter Pan complex
(definitions and/or explanations are in above linked thread).
Let's leave discipline/punishment out of it, because those have
more to do with a parental decision, and thus is outside the
control of the boy. The only possible exception to this might
be boys who seek a spanking because of a need for catharsis or
guilt.
Of the others, some of them seem to be more or less one time
events - rites of passage (which would also include
initiations). Submitting to an alpha male (or accepting the
submission of someone else) and bravura might not be one time
events, but it doesn't seem like they'd be too common.
That leaves us with the reasons that I see as more 'true
spanko': catharsis, fun, and attention.
In this case, catharsis isn't a naughty boy who needs to expiate
his guilty for a specific incident. I see this more as someone
who either is dealing with ongoing or severe guilt over
something, or as someone under a lot of stress who needs an
emotional release. The stress relief actually makes a lot of
sense. At least in America, men of my age and older especially
were raised to suppress their emotions (and I still see that
being done to boys today - not as many, but just as severe it
seems). In those cases, a physical reason can give one an
excuse to give vent to their emotional needs.
Attention is a bit more tentative and harder to judge. I've
known a couple of young men over the years who not just accepted
spankings from me, but actually sought them out, coming to me
with reasons they deserved a spanking, if I hadn't come up with
someone recently enough. I took this as simply shy spanko
behavior, or someone who hadn't sorted their feelings and kinks
yet. However, I renewed contact with one of those young men,
who's now forty, and he was never gay or a spanko. He was just
so starved for any attention that he was happy to have someone
who gave it in any manner. The fact that it was part of a
friendship and loving relationship for us was a huge bonus, and
much better for him than it could have been. I almost don't
want to classify this as a spanko, but someone who seeks out
discipline on a continuing basis to fulfill emotional needs...
It's hard to call it anything else.
Then there is fun.
I think fun can be broken down into two categories: those who
like the entire scene (or at least one type, such as naughty boy
and Daddy, frat initiation, school discipline) and those who
just enjoy having a sore butt when they climax. Then again,
that's probably true since someone seeking catharsis might want
more than just the spanking, so...
And now that I've said this, some of the things like bravura or
alpha male submission could also be considered scenes for that
type of spanko.
Oh, and I should point out that, for this purpose, top, bottom,
or switch doesn't really matter.
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Re: Types of Spanko and Types of Spankings
By: Zyngaru Date: November 7, 2024, 3:27 pm
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Let me start with this. It's something that came to me as soon
as I read the thread and looked over the list.
I would like to make the case that "Coming of Age" isn't
necessarily part of "Rite of Passage." No one has said that it
is, but I know once I bring up Coming of Age that most would see
it as a Rite of Passage, which it could be but not always so.
It could be a part of a family tradition that at thirteen boys
are spanked, thus Rite of Passage. But what if there isn't such
a Rite of Passage. What if a boy when he turns thirteen decides
on his own that he wants a Coming of Age spanking. Let's say
from his friends, thus not even getting parents or other adults
involved. He plans and sets up the whole situation himself
before inviting the boys of choice to be his spankers. In my
mind this is not a Rite of Passage, not even from this boy's
perspective. He just decides he should be spanked at 13 and
wants friends to do it. I'm sure other scenarios could be
thought up where a boy spanko could set up his own spanking at a
certain age on his own, and not be a Rite of Passage. What do
you think? Or even a boy's set of friends decide on their own
to surprise him with a Coming of Age spanking. It wouldn't even
need to be on a birthday or at a certain age. The group might
decide differently with each boy in their group when and where
their friend needs to be spanked as his personal coming of age
spanking.
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Re: Types of Spanko and Types of Spankings
By: Jack Date: November 7, 2024, 6:01 pm
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I'm not sure how to answer your comment, Zyngaru.
If the boy is a spanko, then his justifications don't really
count as different categories. However, one could also say
that, even if he sets it up himself, it's still a rite of
passage (to him at least).
Now, you have a definite point from the perspective of a story,
but what I'm talking about here is more a general attitude about
why one 'seeks spankings' to use Plagosus' phrase, so I'm not
really sure if it would count as something separate and distinct
for this purpose. Interesting concept, though.
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Re: Types of Spanko and Types of Spankings
By: Zyngaru Date: November 8, 2024, 6:22 am
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I get where you are coming from. Some ways I look at Coming of
Age and see Rite of Passage. Other ways I look at it and I see
two totally different things.
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Re: Types of Spanko and Types of Spankings
By: Plagosus Date: November 11, 2024, 4:50 am
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A subject which needs, if a not a book, then a chapter.
I think that "coming of age" and "rite of passage" are two
distinct things, neither having a precise definition.
Coming of age is the process of transitioning from one stage of
life to another, usually puberty, but may also refer to the
point when a person legally becomes an adult. In the former
sense it is closely associated with loss of innocence, another
term with no precise definition, which implies becoming sexually
aware and/or realising that life is more complicated than you
thought.
A rite of passage is a one off ceremony which marks a
transition. Typically, a rite of passage marks puberty, but may
also mark the legal coming of age. More loosely, it can simply
refer to some event such as your first pair of long trousers or
getting a driver's licence. In some societies the ceremony may
involve a test of endurance. It was the aspect of endurance I
had in mind when using the term in the thread referred to above.
It was not perhaps not quite the right term as I was not
referring to ceremonies recognised generally, but rather to a
boy choosing to undergo corporal punishment to join some
perceived elite.
I think there are broadly three types of spanking.
The first is where the spanker considers the spanking as no more
than retribution and/or deterrence.
The second is where the sadistic element is dominant, that is
the spanker relishes the infliction of pain.
The third is where the erotic element is dominant, that is the
spanker focuses on the whole procedure and the pain involved is
just part of it and perhaps bordering on incidental. I am
inclined to believe it is a form of intense buttock fetishism.
The categories may overlap. Indeed some may consider that the
difference between the second and third is no more than one of
degree.
A curiosity is that, when it comes to spanking, humour may never
be far away. Comics which portray spanking often show onlookers
grinning. This is nothing new. St Augustine (354 - 430) in his
Confessions recalls how his family ribbed him after he had been
chastised. Adults reminiscing about their childhood corporal
punishments (but not about other painful memories) often do so
with amused relish. Does the explanation lie somewhere in our
past? See the "Alpha male" section on the other thread.
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