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       #Post#: 2714--------------------------------------------------
       Last Day of Christmas Vacation
       By: Jack Date: January 2, 2018, 6:36 am
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       As I mentioned elsewhere, last night was immediate family only,
       though I did invite Jake and Ryan (PJ's bros , Emmet, Billy
       Kadlec, Chandler Hardy, KC, and Bruce.
       We had a fun evening last night - just playing music and games
       and talking.  Everyone had their normal bedtime routine at the
       regular time, and I warned everyone that all the school kids
       will be in the kitchen by 7am or they will be spanked (I intend
       a couple of firm smacks, times how hard they are to get their
       and how late they are).  That should go a long way towards
       making tomorrow easier.
       I have also warned my kids that all chores (that aren't
       scheduled otherwise) that I will be checking chores at 10am, and
       that there are 8 of them with 2 strikes, and three of those
       already have a WO, so I expect to be doing some spanking this
       morning (that's what I told them - I hope they can all get on
       top of it).  I have also told the 'don't live here' family
       members that they'll be expected to help out a bit as well.
       I am expecting part of the extended family today.  I double
       checked who'll be arriving, and all of them have been told that
       they'll be helping out around the house a bit... Or else.
       I'm actually making up some of the stuff that they'll be doing.
       I don't want slave labor, but a lot of these kids have been over
       here... Well, not counting Christmas Eve or Christmas Day,
       they've been out of school 12 days, and some of these kids have
       been over here at least 10 of those.  A lot of the 'work' I'm
       having people do is straightening the games, cleaning them,
       cleaning the game room and play room, leaning the theater.
       These kids really are extended family, and I want them to feel
       that.  Funny thing - Curtis and Kim Malone both have to work
       today, but their kids were going to stay home.  Then she heard
       about that from someone, and called to ask if she can send them
       over.*
       Anyway, unless there's any trouble, everything should be done by
       10:30 or 11, and I already have real soup and bisques and other
       hot stuff simmering in the crock pots, and I have a ton of stuff
       to make grilled sandwiches, and then we'll start a fire and
       settle down to spend a cold winter's day with our friends and
       family.
       * Tim Malone will be 21 years old in April, and he asked his mom
       if I can still whup him.  She told him yes, and he just moaned.
       ;)
       And now it's time to start waking everyone who's not rising to
       their alarms.
       #Post#: 2721--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Last Day of Christmas Vacation
       By: kalico Date: January 2, 2018, 12:52 pm
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       I hope they all took your warning and things get done so they
       can all enjoy a nice afternoon spank free....
       Tim.... LOL that to funny
       Hugs kal
       #Post#: 2728--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Last Day of Christmas Vacation
       By: Jack Date: January 2, 2018, 2:55 pm
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       There were some smacks and swats, and a couple of playful
       'spankings' but nothing serious.
       It's always funny with these older kids who'd not accept it from
       their parents in a second, but who still worry about me getting
       them.  I'm not sure why that is, except maybe that I don't have
       to argue with them like their parents do, and I tend to be
       fairly self assured that I am going to get my way.
       #Post#: 2742--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Last Day of Christmas Vacation
       By: Jack Date: January 3, 2018, 5:11 am
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       It was a fun day.  Several of the kids like the Malones, the
       Dugans, and the Lichts just came in pajamas.
       Better yet, I had a couple of unexpected guests.  I don't talk
       about them as much, both because they're not around here quite
       as much as some, and because their parents are already pretty
       strict with them, though they tend to use non-spanking
       punishments more than I do - especially now as both boys are in
       their teens.   However, Mike and Ian Reasoner, who've been gone
       most of the Christmas holidays, were here.
       Mike and Ian Reasoner is one of those funny coincidental things.
       After the Marsh boys moved in with me, and we got them settled,
       they started here at Sanger/Briscoe.  Kenny made friends with
       Ian, but at the same time, Ethan and Mike made friends.  When
       Bruce was having his behavior problems around 4 years ago, Ethan
       and Mike were best friends, and the two of them are still close.
       There's about a 4 1/2 year difference between them, so Ian is
       already 13, while Mike is only 17, but already a senior.
       One of the worst things about how this forum and the number of
       people/kids I know have grown over the last 10 years, is thta
       it's impossible for me to keep up with everything.  Because
       those two don't come from a huge family and don't have
       emergencies or get in serious trouble, and because neither of
       them is a huge comics fan, they just don't get the same
       attention people like KC or the Tidwells or the STrouses get.
       They're still great kids though, and they changed into pajamas
       as soon as they got here.  Better, Mike asked if he could change
       in my bedroom. Of course he could.  He asked if I could come
       talk to him.  When I got there, he was in his boxer briefs and
       pulling his pajama bottoms up.  I asked him what was up, and he
       just came up and hugged me.  He's a little shy about being PDAs,
       but he still likes an occasional uncle-hug.
       [hr]
       And while the day was a lot of fun, it got more serious in the
       evening.
       You might remember that Ethan Guthrey has been in some serious
       and some not so serious trouble the last couple of months.  He
       and I sat down yesterday, and I reminded him of the rules he's
       going to be back under starting today.  I told him that, because
       of his size, I wasn't planning to use a brush on him unless he
       really pushed it, but, because of his age, I thought the Red
       Maple would be a required minimum.   He was pretty upset (had he
       seriously thought we'd forgotten over the holidays, had he just
       hoped, or had he forgotten it?).  While he's not the most
       demonstrative of my kids, he was willing to let me pick him up
       and hold him.
       I assured him that I hope he makes it without getting spanked,
       and that we'll sit down and talk with his dad after finals are
       over (less than two weeks), but until then, he's going to have
       to work hard and be on his best behavior to stay out of trouble.
       I'd be lying if I tried to say he wasn't a delight to spank,
       but even so, i really hope he can get through that, and I think
       he knows that I'm on his side.
       [hr]
       And then, when I thought I had the worst of things finished,
       Perry Tidwell brought Chas and Evan to me.
       I just double-checked, and since I have a Tidwell family folder,
       i'm going to post this there.
       #Post#: 2756--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Last Day of Christmas Vacation
       By: Jack Date: January 3, 2018, 4:42 pm
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       We got everyone off to school just fine this morning.
       Thankfully, the college boys were willing to get up and give me
       some help (well, Bryce and Ryan did breakfast, Noah made
       lunches, I woke the kids, and everyone else slept in, but it was
       still a huge help).
       Mikell called yesterday, just to talk for a few minutes.  That
       reminded me of when he was first living with me -  he hated
       having to get up before school started.  I finally told him that
       if he wasn't ready for school on time the first day, I was going
       to whip him.  He still complained, but he went to bed and got up
       when I told him.
       The college kids did want to get some work in, so I stayed home
       again today.  It was nice.
       I don't know why, but when I needed to do some running around (I
       did go check to see how the stores were doing), I called Tim
       Malone and asked if he wanted to go with me.  He was surprised,
       but he came.
       We checked out the stores, then stopped to eat, and just drove
       around and talked (it went to 40F today after 3 days below
       freezing, so it seemed nice in comparison).
       I did let Tim know that I knew he'd asked about me whupping him.
       He was a bit embarrassed, but he laughed.  He had an
       interesting view on it.
       It turns out that Tim had spent his entire school career at BCA.
       As Mr. P has told me in the past, he almost never deals with
       the younger kids (in a disciplinary manner).
       Tim was never a bad kid, but he was pretty close to hyper.  Not
       exactly  class clown, but not one of the best behaved kids
       either.  I wouldn't have believed this, but he told me that he
       was first sent to the office and spanked by Mr. P his fourth
       grade year, and there wasn't a single year that he didn't make
       the trip after that.  Before that, the teachers would send him
       to his mom, which he said was probably worse.
       Mr. P handled him like any other student who was sent to the
       office to be handled by a teacher, which usually means the
       paddle on underpants.  He got a few bare.  The only good part is
       that his mom always okayed for the councilor to be the witness.
       Even his senior year, he repeated an offense, where Mr. P had
       let him off easy the first time.  That time, since Tim was
       already 18, he was allowed to make the decision for himself -
       not as good as just not getting it, but not as bad as having
       your mom informed (not that she didn't find out anyway,
       but....).
       "You're like that, Uncle Jack.  I know I could probably refuse
       to let you smack me, but it's your house, I know the rules, and
       you've always taken care of us.  I mean, I hope you wouldn't
       really do it, but..."  He ended with a shrug.
       #Post#: 2760--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Last Day of Christmas Vacation
       By: Zyngaru Date: January 3, 2018, 6:49 pm
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       [quote author=Jack link=topic=310.msg2756#msg2756
       date=1515019334]
       "You're like that, Uncle Jack.  I know I could probably refuse
       to let you smack me, but it's your house, I know the rules, and
       you've always taken care of us.  I mean, I hope you wouldn't
       really do it, but..."  He ended with a shrug.
       [/quote]
       When I read quotes, I can read them in a number of different
       ways, which changes what someone might be trying to say, other
       than just the words used.
       Jack, the words say, Tim hopes you wouldn't smack him.  But the
       feeling with ending with "but" and a shrug, feels like he is
       open and maybe even sort of hoping you would.  Like in a
       nostalgic way, not really in a direct disobedience way.
       Jack. Did you get that feel?  Or just taking him at the words he
       said?  Or something else?
       #Post#: 2766--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Last Day of Christmas Vacation
       By: db105 Date: January 4, 2018, 3:02 am
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       Jack will answer for himself, but the feeling I got reading his
       post is that Tim wouldn't want that, but if he did get in
       trouble for some reason and Jack decided to paddle him he has
       too much respect for him to refuse, even if he is now officially
       an adult.
       #Post#: 2768--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Last Day of Christmas Vacation
       By: Jack Date: January 4, 2018, 4:23 am
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       DB read it exactly like I did.  If I did decide to spank him,
       he'd probably beg to be let off, but I do think he'd eventually
       take it.  Not that I think I ever would.  Sometimes there are
       older teens or young men who need something like that, but....
       The only situation I can see Tim in is if it's an entire group
       thing, and I needed to smack him to make an impression on his
       brothers - and I think he'd actually understand that.
       #Post#: 2771--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Last Day of Christmas Vacation
       By: Zyngaru Date: January 4, 2018, 8:51 am
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       [quote author=Jack link=topic=310.msg2768#msg2768
       date=1515061425]
       DB read it exactly like I did.  If I did decide to spank him,
       he'd probably beg to be let off, but I do think he'd eventually
       take it.  Not that I think I ever would.  Sometimes there are
       older teens or young men who need something like that, but....
       The only situation I can see Tim in is if it's an entire group
       thing, and I needed to smack him to make an impression on his
       brothers - and I think he'd actually understand that.
       [/quote]
       Okay.  That is the way I thought you would read it.  If a
       spanking was inevitable, he would surrender to it, but he would
       very much prefer not to go there.
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