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       Christmas Songs that Aren't
       By: Jack Date: December 4, 2023, 4:30 pm
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       This is just a minor rant that's not meant to be taken too
       seriously, but it's something that starts driving me crazy every
       year about this time.
       I think the problem starts with the idea that there are only so
       many songs that can be played this time of year, even when you
       mix in non-religious and winter songs.  Despite that limited
       range of offerings, people want to start playing Christmas music
       as soon as Thanksgiving is over (if they wait that long), and
       even radio stations that switch over entirely to 'Christmas
       music' for the entire season.  Because it's played so much, and
       no one wants to listen to the same twelve songs over and over
       again for a month, there has been a sweep to find any music that
       they think might be even mildly seasonal.
       Like what?
       We Need a Little Christmas (from Mame) - I love this song; but
       it's not a Christmas Song.  It's a song about going through bad
       times and needing some Christmas spirit to help get through.
       The entire point of the song is that it is NOT Christmas.
       Still, at least it is a song about the Christmas Spirit.
       Hard Candy Christmas - Another song (that I love from a musical)
       about bad times, but this one is about how they're going through
       a period that's like a Christmas where they didn't get any good
       gifts.
       Baby, It's Cold Outside - The #metoo movement has given this
       song a bad rap by taking everything in the worst way possible
       (and ignoring that the female seems to be flirting and playing
       hard to get) but it is REALLY not a holiday song.
       Those are the top ones that come to my mind.  After that, I
       start thinking of songs that are Christmas-related, but which I
       simply hate...  Songs like
       Last Christmas (first recorded by Wham, I think).  "Last
       Christmas, I gave you my heart.  The very next day, you gave it
       away.  This Christmas, to save me from tears, I'll give it to
       someone special."  Or - and this is just an idea - wait until
       you know someone before 'giving them your heart'.  Every time I
       hear this song, my eyes get sore from rolling.
       And I know I'm not the audience for kids' music, but at least
       Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer is actually a Christmas song.
       Why does Frosty get lumped in all the time?  (Also, my I point
       out that one of my all-time Christmas songs is Snoopy's
       Christmas, so it's not like I hate all kids' songs.)
       And, while I'm ranting, may I point out that Santa Clause is
       Coming to Town has 3 verses of four lines each, so why does
       Bruce Springsteen have to spend 5 to 7 minutes screaming
       'SAAAAAAAnta Claus is coming..." repeatedly?
       #Post#: 28224--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Christmas Songs that Aren't
       By: stevieweeks Date: December 4, 2023, 6:21 pm
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       Stevie is generally not in favour of the death penalty for a
       number of reasons, but he would be prepared to make an exception
       for anyone that plays any Christmas music at all before the
       fifteenth of December.,,,
       The inimitable Scrooge thought of a suitable method of
       execution: 'should be boiled with his own pudding and buried
       with a stake of holly through his heart' and Stevie concurs
       wholeheartedly...
       #Post#: 28226--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Christmas Songs that Aren't
       By: afinch Date: December 4, 2023, 6:37 pm
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       "But Auntie Mame, it's only one week past Thanksgiving Day
       now...."  The song happens right after Mame has lost her job at
       Macy's and they are looking at starvation.
       Hard Candy Christmas is sung by the girls after The Best Little
       Whorehouse in Texas is closed down by crusanding televangelists.
       It was, btw, written by Carol Hall, not Dolly Parton.  They are
       expecting to have a Christmas where the only possible gifts are
       penny candies, because they are destitute.
       Baby, It's Cold Outside was written by Frank Loesser to be
       performed with his WIFE (Jo Sullivan) at cocktail parties, and
       was repurposed in Neptune's Daughter.  It is NOT about date
       rape.  And it never mention's Christmas.
       Last Christmas is the one that drives me crazy--it's about a one
       night stand.
       And while my personal favorite Christmas song is "Have Yourself
       a Merry Little Christmas" from "Meet Me in St. Louis" (which is
       not technically a Christmas movie), thank God Judy Garland and
       Tom Drake  (John Truitt, the boy next door) convinced Hugh
       Martin to change his original lyrics:
       "Have yourself a Merry Little Christmas
       It may be our last.
       From now on we'll all be living in the past."
       and I much prefer the original, film version:
       "Someday soon we all will be together
       If the fates allow.
       Until then we'll have to muddle through somehow...."
       to the Frank Sinatra version which replaces the last line with
       "Hang a shining star upon the highest bough."
       OK, I'm done.
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       Re: Christmas Songs that Aren't
       By: Emlyn Morgan Date: December 5, 2023, 8:49 am
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       Ah yes, Christmas!  We don't have it down here. December 25th is
       just another working day. No Christmas trees, no Santa, no
       Christmas tat in the shops, no incessant "Christmas songs" on
       the radio. Thank goodness! or Alhamdulillah as we say.
       However, I do watch "Nine Lessons and Carols from King's" on BBC
       Television. And the King's* Christmas day broadcast. That's
       quite enough Christmas for me.
       *King Charles not King Mohamed!
       #Post#: 28245--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Christmas Songs that Aren't
       By: David M. Katz Date: December 6, 2023, 4:19 pm
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       "I Want a Hippopotamus for Christmas" - WTF?
       And that awful, horrible, terrible, very bad song, about the kid
       trying to buy his mother some shoes to die in on Christmas. I
       turn that thing off post haste.
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       Re: Christmas Songs that Aren't
       By: stevieweeks Date: December 6, 2023, 5:28 pm
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       [quote=David M. Katz]I Want a Hippopotamus for Christmas[/quote]
       [glow=red,2,300]Most people give up on hippopotamuses when they
       find out that they spray their feces over a very large area by
       using their tails as a fan...[/glow]
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       Re: Christmas Songs that Aren't
       By: Zyngaru Date: December 7, 2023, 1:22 am
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       My favorite of all favorite Christmas songs is,   Rup a pum pum.
       The Little Drummer Boy.  For me it has all the right sentiment
       for Christmas.
       As for funny songs that I like.  Grandma Got Run Over by a
       Reindeer.
       As for religious that I like.  Mary Did You Know.  A Cappella by
       Pentatonix.
       As for when to play Christmas songs.  I still haven't started.
       It's just when I'm in the mood then I play them.
       #Post#: 28277--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Christmas Songs that Aren't
       By: David M. Katz Date: December 11, 2023, 1:27 pm
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       POV: Mary, Bethlehem, c. 2 - 4 B.C.
       You're exhausted just having given birth in a stable. You have
       finally been able to get your baby to sleep. The baby is
       sleeping in a manger and you're hoping for a little rest
       yourself . . . . then along comes this kid banging on a drum.
       #Post#: 28279--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Christmas Songs that Aren't
       By: squarecutter Date: December 11, 2023, 5:07 pm
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       I hate most of the Cliff Richard Christmas confections and Im
       totally in with Jack on Wham on nearly everything they did never
       mind the one he mentioned
       Songs Ive enjoyed are The Pogues Fairy tale of New york, Slade,
       merry Chrismas (1973)Greg Lakes I believe in Father Christmas
       which like the Pogues has a bit of an edge to it. Of those
       rather twee American ones I think I like Momma kissing Santa
       Claus best and some of the Motown renditions are ok
       #Post#: 28281--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Christmas Songs that Aren't
       By: afinch Date: December 11, 2023, 6:26 pm
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       (Just Sing) A Christmas Song from Elf, the Musical is an ear
       worm for me.  There is a wonderful UK pro-shot video of the
       entire show that is pretty easily found.  It has become one of
       my favorite Christmas things and a must watch.  If anyone wants
       to see it and can't find it, PM me.
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