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Re: MMSA
By: HumbledBareBoy Date: August 18, 2023, 8:54 pm
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Okay, I'm admitted "late to the game" here, but oddly enough, I
do indeed feel like I can actually contribute something
semi-articulate and vaguely intelligent, haha! 🤣 I will
surely say a few thing of stark disagreement with previously
stated sentiments, but I can promise I am saying them in all
respect and compassion -- a smile on my face, warmth in my
heart, and sending a "telepathic hug" in your direction...
[emoji178] [emoji56]
[quote]Stars and shields are of little value to readers. It may
be a while before a story gets any sort of star rating. ...
Readers do not need stars as they get to know who they want to
read.[/quote]
As a reader, I would honestly have to say it differs from person
to person, and for example, a reader like me does like having
stars and shield to consider for choosing stories, and I would
miss them if they were to ever go away. Part of that, I'm sure,
is largely on account me generally being a technical,
analytical, quantitative, etc. kind of personality overall, and
I'm really all about numbers, labels, categories, clear dividing
lines, etc. So if I'm perusing the listings, granted the content
icons themselves will be my first choice of information to act
upon, but otherwise, my neurons just take a certain amount of
comfort in having something so concrete and, I guess, "tangible"
in the form of those shields and stars... [emoji848] [emoji848]
[emoji848]
[quote]
[quote]I do not enjoy seeing my stories with nothing at all
beside them. I do not enjoy seeing my stories with sad, hollow,
four-pointed thingamajigs while someone else is enjoying a pair
of solid six-pointers. It does feel like my nose is being rubbed
in the fact that readers just aren't that into me.[/quote]
[quote]...because they are disappointed with the lack of
feedback of one sort or another, I suggest they should not be
concerned and just get on and write if they like writing. I said
that feedback was a mixed blessing and suggested that no one
would be fretting if there were no statistics. ... I do though
feel for those authors who agonise. I do my best to persuade
them they have no need to agonise and suggest they just
concentrate on writing what they want or feel they need to
write.[/quote]
[/quote]
Here, I would instead argue that it really depends on the
specific writer, plus their personal reasons and hoped-for
psychological rewards for submitting stories in the first place,
either to MMSA or to other archive sites. In my case, for
example, it is not solely about the stories -- but to the
contrary, also as much (if not more...?) about the connection
and communication aspects of it! On one hand, I feel like every
human being out there, although to greater vs. lesser degrees,
has at least some cursory desire -- or more likely, even a need
-- for the occasional "external validation" in one form or
another; in my case, I know that total or near-total absence of
any reader engagement, and I would soon lose my reasons or
desires for writing anything. Basically, it would more or less
cease to be rewarding or meaningful to me...
On the other hand, I also participate in the community for
deeper personal reasons, beyond consuming "hot stories" about
spanked boys! Put it this way: Nobody in my physical, everyday
life -- outside the Internet, here in the real world -- knows
about "HumbledBareBoy", nor that he and I are one and the same
-- not even my real-life friends and acquaintances from the
kink/fetish and BDSM communities... :(
[quote]
[quote]My ideal would be to do away with shields and stars and
allowing authors to see the number of visitors. With that system
authors would not be comparing themselves to other
authors.[/quote]
[quote]I'd happily get rid of the shields. There has been too
much bitterness over them for them to bring me any
satisfaction.[/quote]
[/quote]
Based upon my readings of past discussions, in all fairness, I
can indeed understand where people who feel this way are coming
from, especially just considering even debating the topic at all
has been cause for strife and acrimony. From my point of view,
having only become earnestly active just 3 years ago back in
September 2020 -- I can say that both stars and shields have
sincerely been a genuine source of benefit to me,
psychologically and emotionally speaking! [emoji91] Of course, I
fully realize that's just my personal, individual experience --
plus also, respect the fact that it's different for others.
Still yet, when I was that "new-ish" author still trying to
build up my motivation, self-confidence, and "creative identity"
within the wider body of authors -- seeing my story go live with
a shield next to it undeniably was an extra ray of light and
"shining beacon" for me, but even when said shield is not
forthcoming for any particular story...?
Just the fact that I have gotten shields and stars in the past,
it gives me hope I can do so again, in the future! But more
deeply, that I do in fact have the ability to write things that
readers will enjoy and to reach them on some level -- emotional,
erotic, and/or anything else! 💯
[quote](Edited to clarify/dispel ambiguity, in light of Z's
comments -- mea culpa!)
[quote author=Zyngaru link=topic=2928.msg27049#msg27049
date=1683901864]As for Mr. Flag. I have always been and always
will be one of his staunch supporters. He encouraged me when I
first started submitting stories...[/quote]
=== [emoji116] Not-Zyngaru quotes [emoji116] ===
[quote]I'm glad you have had a positive experience with Flag,
Zyngaru. <-snip-> You are fortunate that you've only met Dr.
Jekyll. Numerous other people have had dealings with Mr.
Hyde.[/quote]
[quote]I wouldn't mind at all if he were to ban Bottom[/quote]
[/quote]
Before going into computers and generally persuing the STEM
(i.e., "science + technology + engineering + mathematics")
corner of the job market, I had previous life where I was
working towards a PhD in the social science -- studying human
beings themselves, in all their weirdness! And although I did
leave the field professionally, there is regardless still a part
of me that find such topics interesting. Here in MMSA, for
example, I'm always curious about (and fascinated by) who does
or does not get along with one another, plus who people
gravitate towards vs. fleeing away from...
Very much like so many other people here, I occasionally find
dealing with Flag to be challenging or unpleasant, so I suppose
that means have encountered a form of "Mr. Hyde" myself... ???
Even despite, mind you, all of my best and sincerest efforts to
be warm, sweet, and agreeable, FYI! At the very same time, just
because I think so much of Zyngaru, even I have to be grateful
to Flag for providing Z. with that aforementioned encouragement
-- plus the other times, to my recollection, that Flag's really
stepped up and did good for people! Which does not, to be fair,
at all negate or invalidate other people's more negative
experiences -- just merely illustrates the complex web of
unique, dynamics flowing relationships amongst people...
However, and obviously very much UNLIKE others here, Bottom and
I have always gotten along with one another quite easily and
beautifully; I gather that various members have their own
histories with him, and he with them in turn, but...he's always
been nothing short of wonderful to me -- as friendly and
respectful as anyone could ever hope for, even! Granted, part of
that could simply be attributed to my sweet and amazing
personality, just being the warm, radiant "shining beacon" of
infinite love and pure light that I am -- LOL!
🤣🤣🤣 But also, so many other things, I
would presume: The right year, the optimal season, Mercury NOT
being in retrograde, and so on and so forth...
[quote author=Kat link=topic=2928.msg27050#msg27050
date=1683904055]I give Jack full credit for operating a forum
where we can have frank discussions. Jack has been very
generous, as he started Bransom to showcase his own
material.[/quote]
With THIS sentiment, I could not possibly agree more deeply or
enthusiastically, than I already do! [emoji7] Three cheers, hip
hip hooray! [emoji307][emoji322][emoji560]
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Re: MMSA
By: Zyngaru Date: August 18, 2023, 10:30 pm
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As I read HBB's comments I was wondering if I should comment or
not. Then I got down to where three comments were grouped
together with my name at the top and only the first comment was
mine and I do take exception with the last comment being put to
that grouping, because it implies, I said that which I DID NOT
say that or even think it.
Mr. Bottom and I differ in a lot of things we comment on, but in
no way does that imply I hold any animosity or ill will towards
him. I have NEVER wished anyone be banned from any site. Do
our conversations sometimes get intense? Yes. Sometimes they
get so intense we both stop commenting just so we don't go too
far. But I highly respect Mr. Bottom. He is true to what he
believes and states it without compromise. I know where he
stands and like that in a person. What I can't stand is someone
(Not implying this to any particular person) who is nice to you
to your face and mean about you behind your back. Two faced
people rub me the wrong way.
That said, there are a few, not many, but a few people on MMSA
that I don't care for, even though I don't know them personally.
I strongly doubt they even know I don't like them. My liking
or disliking anyone, means diddly, as long as I stay civil and
polite.
Sorry. I rambled, but I felt it necessary for everyone who
reads HBB's comments to KNOW that I did not say what that post
implies that I said.
Yes. HBB. I know you never meant it to sound that way. It's
just an unfortunate grouping of quotes. To show you I still
love you as a brother from another mother, I am writing you a
story. When it is done, I will email it to you. Don't hold
your breath. I am a long way from getting it finished. It's a
tribute story from my reading one of your stories and Zynder was
inspired to give me this story for you.
As for the debate about stars and shields. I have commented on
this elsewhere, but I will highlight what they mean for me here.
I like both. Shields more than stars, but I like both. I
write for myself. Zynder gives me a story and I write it. I
enjoy writing it because it is like watching a movie inside my
head. Zynder demands that I wrote the stories he gives me.
Zynder cares less what I do with them afterwards. He gives the
stories for me, personally. He does not give me stories
expecting other to read them. Zynder still gives me stories.
He's never stopped. Point in question, the above-mentioned
story, that I am writing for HBB.
I posted stories online for others to enjoy. I felt that I
enjoyed them so much that maybe others would like them also.
So, with Flag's encouragement I started sharing them. The stars
showed me if people enjoyed them like I did or not. If no-one
liked them, then why share them? I'm still going to write them,
but I don't have to share them if no-one likes them. That is
what I gleaned from stars.
Shields took on an important measure for how I write the stories
Zynder gives me. Shields come from the people I highly respect.
Shields told me if what I was writing deserved to be shared.
If reviewers considered my stories crap, then they don't deserve
to be shared sparing others from having to read crap. I worked
really hard trying to write better and better. You all know I
am not a grammar person, so writing a story that would receive a
shield was and still is difficult for me. Getting my first
shield was an awesome day for me. It encouraged me to strive
harder to get the story grammatically correct. Receiving my
Author Shield was the best ever day in my story writing
experience. It meant I was accepted as an author. None of that
is probably what the whole stars and shields thing is supposed
to represent.
Okay. It's getting late and I have a story to work on a little
bit before going to bed. Yes. HBB. It's your story and I am
lying here naked ready to bring life to characters I hope you'll
enjoy meeting someday.
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Re: MMSA
By: HumbledBareBoy Date: August 18, 2023, 11:00 pm
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[quote author=Zyngaru link=topic=2928.msg27609#msg27609
date=1692415840]Sorry. I rambled, but I felt it necessary for
everyone who reads HBB's comments to KNOW that I did not say
what that post implies that I said. Yes. HBB. I know you never
meant it to sound that way. It's just an unfortunate grouping
of quotes.[/quote]
Ohhh, shoot! [emoji33] Wow, at the time it never would have
occurred to me, but now that you pointed it out, I absolutely
see what you mean -- my mistake, just fixed it accordingly!
[emoji106]
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