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       #Post#: 25982--------------------------------------------------
       An Author's Experience
       By: Plagosus Date: December 7, 2022, 3:23 am
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       My latest story has an A icon! I had to go and lie in a darkened
       room. The story concerns an author who writes caning stories who
       has never been caned and wonders if the experience is as he
       describes it in his stories. He is changed into an eleven year
       old boy and gets the cane and then changed back into an adult.
       If we ask how old the spankee is the answer is going to be 25 or
       over. On that basis there is an argument that the A icon is
       correct. However, the spankee has been changed into an eleven
       year old boy justifying the B icon. Apart from that, the purpose
       of icons is to assist the reader. Anyone going into the story
       expecting to read about a mature adult being caned is going to
       be disappointed and anyone avoiding the story on account of the
       A icon is going to miss a description of a boy being caned.
       Perhaps DMK or any other reviewer reading this could change the
       icon to a B, please.
       #Post#: 25984--------------------------------------------------
       Re: An Author's Experience
       By: ivor Date: December 7, 2022, 6:24 am
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       To me it made sense with the A icon because it also had the
       fantasy icon.
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       Re: An Author's Experience
       By: Plagosus Date: December 8, 2022, 5:11 am
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       Someone has changed the icon to B. Thanks to whomever it was.
       #Post#: 26005--------------------------------------------------
       Re: An Author's Experience
       By: David M. Katz Date: December 8, 2022, 6:00 pm
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       Plagosus,
       I did the original review and still maintain that the A is the
       most correct icon for the story.  This comes off of another
       discussion I had behind the scenes about an author who wanted a
       100s year-old elf to be tagged as a b since he looked 10. The
       decision was that we must use the spankee's ACTUAL age and not a
       PERCEIVED age. That was my motivation for putting the A on your
       story.
       However, in your request above, you state that the protagonist
       actually becomes an 11 year-old boy. Based on that I felt I
       could justify changing the icon to B. It is really a borderline
       call and another reviewer might have gone a different direction.
       I hope that helps.
       #Post#: 26013--------------------------------------------------
       Re: An Author's Experience
       By: Plagosus Date: December 8, 2022, 7:20 pm
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       Thank you.
       I quite agree that as a basic principle the actual age should be
       reflected in the icon otherwise it can get messy.
       #Post#: 26017--------------------------------------------------
       Re: An Author's Experience
       By: Zyngaru Date: December 9, 2022, 10:41 am
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       Let me throw a wrench into this discussion.
       The spankee age is the age of the spankee at the time of being
       spanked correct?
       If you use the actual age of the person spanked in the story
       instead of the age of the person at the age of being spanked,
       you are really opening a can of worms.  That would mean all
       stories of memories of childhood would need to be changed,
       because at the age of retelling the memory the person is old,
       butt at the age the memory took place he was young.
       In fantasy, different species age out differently.  Elves don't
       become of age until they are 150 years old human equivalent.
       Then you have the whole, age regression thing in stories, where
       older boys and even adults regress back to being little boys in
       shorts and acting like little boys instead of the older male he
       is actually.  When the story is written well, the reader totally
       suspends the characters actual age for the age he is pretending
       to be.
       I understand the concept of using the actual person's age
       instead of the spankee age when different, but in doing so, it
       can really mess the flow of a story up badly.  Almost all of my
       characters are slightly older boys who look much younger because
       of delayed puberty.  Delayed, late, and precocious puberty is a
       real thing and affects lots of boys.  It isn't only their
       physical self but also their mental self that is affected.
       Being spanked in their situation, while their peers have long
       outgrown being spanked is a real issue.
       I personally believe the age of the icon should reflect the age
       of the spankee at the time he is spanked.  But that is just my
       opinion.  I live with whatever age icon my story gets and move
       on.
       Z
       #Post#: 26019--------------------------------------------------
       Re: An Author's Experience
       By: Plagosus Date: December 9, 2022, 7:11 pm
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       If a story says that someone aged 17 looks 14 then you have to
       go by the actual age or it all starts to get complicated.
       If the story is of the "Life and Times of X" type and it
       describes the same person getting it at different ages you have
       to have an icon for each age group.
       If the story involves an adult recounting to someone a spanking
       he had as a boy the icon has to match the age of the character
       when the spanking took place. It is no different from a story
       told in the first person. No problem there I think.
       In fantasy when men become boys I am inclined to think that the
       icon should reflect the age the man has become. What is being
       described is a boy not a man being spanked. If we bear in mind
       that the whole purpose of icons is to help the reader rather
       than to be a strict exercise in classification, I feel fairly
       safe in asserting that most readers would want the icon to
       indicate that the spankee is a boy. Perhaps the ideal would be
       an age regression icon, something Flag has not yet come up with.
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