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Re: Dec 17 Spanking Report
By: Jack Date: December 14, 2017, 5:22 am
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[quote author=David M. Katz link=topic=217.msg2198#msg2198
date=1513227417]
Yeah, it was either minor mischief r Mr. P was in a forgiving
mood.
[/quote]
Greg and Dylan are both only boys. I can't remember which is
which right now, but one has only sisters and the other is an
only child. Both of them are freshman, though I think Dylan is
just turned 15, while Greg is a bit younger than Kaden (summer
birthday).
Mr. P seems to know that and understand their relationship, so
he considers it a minor offense. The problem with 'horseplay'
is twofold. First, (and I've seen this a lot) it can often lead
to real fighting. Also, it can be an excuse for people who are
really fighting, or at least muddy the waters. From what he
said, Mr. P will sometimes deal with unsubstantiated horseplay a
bit more firmly, but in cases like this, or when Gordy and some
of his friends used to get messing around, he still feels he has
to correct it, but he goes a bit easier.
By the way, I mentioned this because I'd invited Greg and/or
Dylan to visit Kaden, and they both came over after school
yesterday. He really seemed to enjoy having his friends over
and getting to show them around.
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Re: Dec 17 Spanking Report
By: Jack Date: December 20, 2017, 8:58 am
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I mentioned not too long ago, in his bio thread, that Zeke had
asked me to help him get a handle on a problem he's been having
lately, by being more strict with him on minor stuff.
Let me pause to say that I don't have a real problem with that.
The problem I have with Zeke is that his situation is pretty
unique to my experience, and I know that he has to find a place
where he feels comfortable, before he's going to be ready to be
his own man. What that really means is that we have to find a
way of dealing with him and a pace of... advancing (?) him, that
works best for him.
Anyway, the past few days have been really crazy. Saturday and
Sunday, I readjusted the boys chores, so we could have a couple
of days without them having to do anything but the bare
minimums. I don't know exactly what happened with Zeke - he
still has bad time management skills, and must have got
distracted by something. Somehow clean clothes got left in the
utility room, so I was taking them to the boys rooms, and
changing out bathroom linens. Yeah, he'd taken his trash out -
of the cans - and left it in his closet. I could almost have
let it go as an 'accident' except for two things. One he'd
asked me to be zero tolerance for a while and make sure he gets
into the right groove. Secondly, he'd thrown a towel over it.
Of course, no matter what I say about making the boys do their
own chores, picking a probably wet towel off the floor is an
instinct. So yeah - oops, Dad finds hidden trash stash.
I waited until the younger kids were in bed, then I asked Zeke
about it. I'd left a note on the bag, so if he remembered to
throw it away before i got back to him, he'd know I already
knew.
"Did you get my note, Zeke?"
"Yessir," he replied glumly.
"Why didn't you just tell me you were running late?"
"I didn't want you to get mad at me."
"Zeke, if you just wasted time all day, I probably would have
chewed you out, but hiding it from me? Don't you know that just
makes things worse?"
He nodded, and I decided we'd spent enough time on talk.
"C'mere."
He came to me and I took his pants and shorts off for him, then
put him over my lap.
As I've said numerous times, Zeke was probably a late bloomer,
and he's still a bit on the small size, but he's also used to
very harsh (sometimes possibly abusive) corporal punishment
(he's one of the few boys who've probably gotten softer under
me). A hand spanking wasn't fun for him, but I doubt it did
much more than sting. I was firm enough to have him squiring a
bit, but he managed to hold back any yelping, while we discussed
the issue. We were supposed to have set a way of dealing with
these - which he wants me to be stricter on, but something that
I don't think is that major - but we never did. So after a
discussion over who asked for this, and why deceitful measures
rarely makes things better - I had him get up and fetch the bath
brush, and gave him two swats (one in the center of each cheek).
He was sore, but didn't cry. He was also sore emotionally. One
of the things he and I are dealing with is that he was taught to
repress his reactions and not be honest about how he felt. He
didn't want to hug, so I reminded him to finish his chores, and
that I'd be up to say good night to him. When I got back, he
admitted that me spanking him is really embarrassing, and that
he'd been upset about it (not so much the follow up swats), but
he also admitted I was right, and he knew what he should have
done, and what he'd done instead was pretty immature. While he
still wasn't happy, he wasn't really mad at me or at himself. He
did say good night and give me a hug.
#Post#: 2374--------------------------------------------------
Re: Dec 17 Spanking Report
By: Jack Date: December 20, 2017, 5:03 pm
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Paul Lincoln has been a friend of mine since middle school. For
years, he lived out of state. His parents have always lived
here, so I'd see Paul or his kids occasionally when they managed
a long visit. Then... Well, allow me to quote myself.
[quote]"Almost three years ago, I mentioned one poor little boy
who'd had an excessively sore bottom over a period of a few
months - Thomas Bad Pre-Christmas.
Since then, the boys have been over here a few times, on
holidays or when making a summer visit with their nana.
This afternoon, while eating lunch, I'm going through my
Facebook feed, and I see pictures of Thomas and Riley (now 12
and 10) ready for their first day of school, then at school,
posing in front of the sign with the school's name - Bransom
Christian Academy.
Ensuing Phone Conversation:
Me: Hey, Paul, what's up?
Paul: Nothing much. You?
Me. Same here. Say I just saw something interesting.
Paul: What's that?
Me: Well, I just saw a picture of Thomas and Rye standing in
front of a school that's called Bransom Christian Academy. It's
funny that they have a school with that exact same name in (the
city and state in which I thought he lived).
Paul: Oh, c'mon, Jack. We've been back in Bransom nearly two
months now. You know that.
Me: How exactly would I know that, sir?""
Paul: Silence.
Me: Silence.
Paul: Well, I changed our location on Facebook?
It turns out that Paul's father had a stroke. His wife had been
getting tired of where they lived, and of being so far from
their families, so Paul looked into some jobs in this area,
found one he really liked, and they moved. Their boys visited
after mine went to summer camp, but then his boys left for
summer camp and to visit their Mom's mother for a couple of
weeks. Then they were involved in settling in and getting ready
for school. For some reason, they just didn't come over here for
the last three or four weeks (to be fair, they live outside of
town and on the far side from us, so it's not like the boys can
ride bikes over here).
Actually, Paul's family doesn't live too far from his Mom, who
lives pretty close to Colt's friend, Dylan, and Mark and Mike
Weber. Thomas is pretty quiet most of the time, but he and Colt
have always gotten along, so things should work pretty
well."[/quote]
So, Riley is in fifth grade this year (I think he's already 11),
and Thomas is in 8th grade with Colt (and still 13, I believe -
the two boys are 2 1/2 years apart).
So, while we were waiting to board the train, they came up and
asked to talk to me in private.
"Uncle Jack, Dad just texted us. I guess we forget to do some
chores Sunday and then we lied to Mom about it yesterday, and
now he says we have to go home when he gets off, and we can't
come back for the parties."
"I'm sorry to hear that guys."
"It's really not fair. I know we screwed up, but he's gonna
spank us and make us do the chores, but we still gotta miss the
parties."
I really don't want to say 'I understand why he fills that way,
and I can't really change it.' Kids just don't take that the
right way.
"So, me and Ry talked it over and I texted Dad back. He says if
you promise to wear us out, he'll let us stay for the party,
but.. Well, that's the main part."
I confirmed with Riley that it was his choice also, made sure
they both understood I wasn't planning to take it easy on them,
and then called Paul to double check it's what he wanted. He
still has to work tomorrow, but his wife is off, so it'll work,
and he did feel bad about making them miss the party with all
their friends, though they've been here since school let out
yesterday, it's still not the same as a semi-organized party.
The boys seemed to relax and enjoy themselves, at least until we
arrived at home. Then I sent them to my room, so we could keep
some privacy for them. A few minutes later, I arrived with the
large Tailblazer and the Maple Red. Neither boy was pleased to
see those, and I think they were less pleased when I bared them.
Since they were getting a reprieve, and since I did consider it
a moderately serious transgression (they admitted they'd lied to
their mom about having the chores finished), so I made sure both
of them were bawling before I finished, though I didn't
completely wear them out. I didn't make them do corner time,
and I held them until they could talk a bit, and then we talked
about why I considered what they'd done so serious. They were
both pretty upset, but they also seemed grateful that they got
to say, so it couldn't have been too bad.
#Post#: 2435--------------------------------------------------
Re: Dec 17 Spanking Report
By: db105 Date: December 22, 2017, 5:18 am
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Well, better than missing the party and still getting spanked, I
guess.
I was wondering, does Paul spank his sons on the bare? Do any of
the boys you have permission to spank balk at that when you
spank them, if they are not used to it at home?
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Re: Dec 17 Spanking Report
By: Jack Date: December 22, 2017, 3:10 pm
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[quote author=db105 link=topic=217.msg2435#msg2435
date=1513941538]I was wondering, does Paul spank his sons on the
bare? Do any of the boys you have permission to spank balk at
that when you spank them, if they are not used to it at
home?[/quote]
Paul doesn't talk spankings a lot. I know that he does spank
bare, but not always. He also sometimes uses a wooden paddle. I
do remember that last year, Paul was considering using a belt,
or possibly a hairbrush, for more serious behavior. Paul
started getting the belt when he was in 7th grade, so he was
considering the same for Thomas, but he also felt the discipline
they were using was mostly good enough, so I don't really know
if he ever made the switch or not.
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Re: Dec 17 Spanking Report
By: David M. Katz Date: December 22, 2017, 3:31 pm
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Do you find that spankings taper off near Christmas? Doesn't
seem as "busy" right now.
#Post#: 2462--------------------------------------------------
Re: Dec 17 Spanking Report
By: Jack Date: December 22, 2017, 4:53 pm
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[quote author=David M. Katz link=topic=217.msg2458#msg2458
date=1513978277]
Do you find that spankings taper off near Christmas? Doesn't
seem as "busy" right now.
[/quote]
He sees you when you're sleeping, he knows if you're awake....
Some things possibly work even better than spanking.
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Re: Dec 17 Spanking Report
By: Jack Date: January 1, 2018, 5:36 am
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Time to put a close to the December spanking Report, and to all
those of 2017.
I actually have a couple of reports to add, though not a ton of
detail on either of them.
Marcus said that Paden and Glenn built up several offenses over
Thursday evening and Friday, and ended up getting a deluxe
session. While Marcus handles most discipline these days,
espeically since he actually spends more time with the boys, now
that footballs over, but Emmet is the only one for whom he's
exclusive. Marcia has asked questions about how Marcus/I handle
things, so they can keep consequences pretty similar from either
of them. And they do have more than one Tailblazers, so, while
Marcus was baring Kline, Marcia bared Glenn, and the two of them
got to perform a duet.
The other was Payton Joyce, told to me by his best friend, who's
also his big brother - Connor.
Connor is very protective of Payton, and he does not like when
Payton gets spanked to the point where he's tried lied about who
did the trouble. In this case, Connor was not complaining about
him getting spanked so much as dealing with the fact that his
little brother had been a brat recently, and really earned this
one. Also, I should mention that the Joyces don't seem like
frequent spankers to me.
Apparently Payton has had an attitude about some things lately,
and he's been rather lazy over Christmas break. It sounds like
something has him rather frustrated, but either he's not sure
what it is, or it's something that can't be fixed. Whatever it
is, he's behavior has been rude. From what I understand, his
parents explained what was bothering him, pointed out examples,
and told him that while he has a right to his feelings, he
doesn't have a right to take them out on other people. From
what Connor says, there were some warnings that resulted in
corner time, short loss of phone, or him being sent to his room.
On a second 'sent to his room' Sunday afternoon, he exploded.
After basically throwing a tantrum, then calming down, he was
given an actual belt whipping (pretty rare from what I
understand - known of the Joyce kids are especially big or early
bloomers, and it sounds like hand spankings handled most of the
problems that arose).
I did talk to Payton a bit last night. I think he knew he was
acting out, and didn't feel good about it, but didn't know how
to stop reacting either. He certainly didn't seem upset (just a
bit sore) over the spanking.
Oh - and Payton is a 14-year old Freshman. All three of the
Joyce children are blond and a bit androgynous, though the
youngest one - Anna - is pretty obviously a girl: skinny, but
with a bit more definition than the boys, and her long hair
pretty much confirms it. Connor's in 11th grade, like Parker,
but I can't remember if he's still 16 or already 17. Still,
he's very lean, and doesn't have a lot of definition, and he
could pass as much younger, despite the fact that he's fairly
tall.
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Re: Dec 17 Spanking Report
By: jackson Date: January 1, 2018, 4:24 pm
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Was Peyton's belt whipping bare behind?
Was it his dad that administered it?
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Re: Dec 17 Spanking Report
By: Jack Date: January 1, 2018, 5:05 pm
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[quote author=jackson link=topic=217.msg2690#msg2690
date=1514845464]
Was Peyton's belt whipping bare behind?[/quote]
I don't know. I know from the past that the boys get it on
boxers or bare, but I don't recall anything that told me which
this time. Still, it seems like this has been building for a
while, so maybe that made the difference.
[quote author=jackson link=topic=217.msg2690#msg2690
date=1514845464]
Was it his dad that administered it?
[/quote]
As far as I know, now that they're older, the parents spank by
gender, so yes.
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