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       #Post#: 1567--------------------------------------------------
       Tommy and Donald (and Darnell 13)
       By: Jack Date: November 16, 2017, 5:29 am
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       Tommy is my biological nephew and was actually only my third kid
       - he moved in with Cathy and I before Barry was born.
       Tommy is my half-sister's first born.  We have no idea who his
       father is.   When she divorced her second husband, she hooked up
       with a guy who was being abusive towards both boys and was
       possibly (definitely, but not provable) molesting them.  I'm not
       even going to waste time discussing this, except to say that my
       half-sister was broken, and a sane person will never be able to
       understand how she thinks.  I just know that, when she was in a
       relationship with a good person who treated her well, she felt
       like there was something wrong.
       Anyway, while we couldn't prove enough from a criminal
       perspective to get anything done, custody is a civil matter, and
       we were able to prove the boys were being mistreated.   Tommy
       and Caleb are half-brothers, and Cal's dad took him (for less
       than three years), and I took Tommy.  I want to say he moved in
       with us not long before he turned 8, so Cat was probably pretty
       heavily pregnant at the time (Tommy turned 8 about three weeks
       after Barry was born).
       I could go on about Tommy for pages, but I'm going to skip the
       spanking stuff for now.  It might still become stories one day.
       Let's suffice it to say that Tommy was hard to deal with, and I
       wasn't nearly as experienced with troubled boys as I am now
       (Steve and Corey were both angels compared to Tommy).  I made
       mistakes dealing with him, and he had to unlearn all the bad
       habits his mom had taught him before we could even begin
       civilizing him.
       Tommy was not a great student, and he's the only one of my kids
       who didn't (eventually) go on to college.  However, he did have
       a good idea what he wanted to do.  When he graduated high
       school, he moved to Waco to live with his mom.  He and I had
       been having a lot of trouble, because he had a lot of younger
       brothers living here by that point, and I wouldn't accept the
       behavior he thought he should be allowed.  I couldn't believe
       that he was voluntarily going back to his mother, but I think he
       wanted to see what she was really like (she could act human when
       she wanted - for short periods of time).
       Instead of college, Tommy went to technical school, and he got a
       certificate in auto mechanics, learned to handle the newer cars
       with computers built in, as well as picking up some side stuff,
       like body work.  By the time he finished, he'd moved away from
       his mom, and had his own apartment.  He liked it there, and
       found a job at a place that was close enough for him to bike in
       nice weather.  He's been there every since, has continued his
       education (mostly on the computer side), and worked his way up
       to assistant manager (mostly because his hardass dad demanded he
       do something in high school, which ended up with him having to
       take an accounting class).
       Tommy really did think I was an unreasonable hardass, and I
       probably was to some extent.  After living with his mom for a
       while, and learning that she really was as horrible as I'd tried
       to warn him, he was kind of sour on family for a while, and
       spent a couple of years basically cut off from the family.  It
       was during that time that he met Donald.
       Donald is a black guy who's a year younger than Tommy.  He has a
       really nice skin tone (java?) and wears his hair in a basic cut
       (kind of like Will Smith's is most of the time).  When they
       first met, he was going to college and working in a movie
       theater.  He got a business degree and now has a decent job in
       middle management.
       He's not that geeky, but he loves old movies (which is what got
       him and Tommy talking in the first place), and he fits in here
       okay.  However, he and Tommy still haven't shown up that often.
       His mom is very demanding about him/then being around for
       holidays, and they both like having holidays at their own place.
       Tommy does seem to have relaxed his anti-family opinions over
       the last few years.  I think part of that is just Donald having
       a good influence on him and calming him down.  He did once
       apologize to me and accept apologies I'd made to him years ago,
       as well as admitting that he'd been a handful, and must have
       been hard to deal with.  He also confessed that part of his
       problem with me came from his mom.  Even though he knew his mom
       didn't treat people right, she somehow convinced him that I'd
       'stolen' him from her and that nothing had been her fault, and
       even after he'd lived with her and moved out, it took him a
       while to work through that.
       #Post#: 1790--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tommy and Donald (and Darnell 13)
       By: db105 Date: November 26, 2017, 1:54 pm
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       It's a pity you didn't get him when you were more experienced,
       but it's good you are able to move forward.
       #Post#: 2326--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tommy and Donald (and Darnell 13)
       By: Jack Date: December 19, 2017, 11:00 am
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       Darnell, Tommy, and Donald are coming by for Christmas.  I think
       they're planning to be here Christmas Eve, then drive home, so
       they can have Christmas morning at home, before going to visit
       Donald's parents.
       Darnell is 13, but Tommy and Donald think he's mature enough to
       stay alone while he's out of school. so he won't be coming up
       here early.
       [hr]
       Darnell moved in with Donald (I believe they're cousins) and
       Tommy after getting thrown out of his house when he came out.
       While Donald's family has always seemed big on family, finding a
       place for a gay teenager who doesn't especially want to settle
       down and fit in seemed to be something of a challenge.  From
       what Tommy and Don'd have both said, it seems like Darnell did
       his fair part in making things difficult.
       He seems to be settling in with Tommy and Donald. They did have
       to move, so Darnell could have a separate bedroom, but they
       don't mind that  they can afford it, and it also came with some
       other perks.  just being someplace where he's comfortable seems
       to have helped him a lot, and he's been doing better in school
       this semester, from what i'm told.
       I really have only met him once, so I don't know a lot else to
       say about him, but he seems like a pretty nice kid.
       #Post#: 2332--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tommy and Donald (and Darnell 13)
       By: db105 Date: December 19, 2017, 1:06 pm
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       Well, it's nice if them to give Darnell a home. In what way was
       him (Darnell) causing trouble?
       #Post#: 2337--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tommy and Donald (and Darnell 13)
       By: Jack Date: December 19, 2017, 2:23 pm
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       [quote author=db105 link=topic=177.msg2332#msg2332
       date=1513710387]
       Well, it's nice if them to give Darnell a home. In what way was
       him (Darnell) causing trouble?
       [/quote]
       I haven't heard any specifics.  What I was told is that he was
       'having trouble fitting in', and that he 'got into some
       trouble'.
       #Post#: 2438--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tommy and Donald (and Darnell 13)
       By: Adric Date: December 22, 2017, 8:35 am
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       [quote author=Jack link=topic=177.msg2326#msg2326
       date=1513702830]
       Darnell moved in with Donald (I believe they're cousins) and
       Tommy after getting thrown out of his house when he came
       out.[/quote]
       I've never been able to figure out how any parent could consider
       their children as disposable assets.
       #Post#: 2454--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tommy and Donald (and Darnell 13)
       By: Jack Date: December 22, 2017, 3:14 pm
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       I haven't either.
       I really didn't phrase this well.
       Darnell and Donald's family is very religious.  While Tommy says
       they're mostly very nice, loving people, the whole 'gay' thing
       came out a really bad time, thanks to all that 'poor, persecuted
       majority' BS that's been going around for a while now.  I do
       know that part of the problems he was having with being accepted
       elsewhere was simply thta he didn't want to have to settle or
       hid who he was.
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