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Cousin Andy
By: Jack Date: November 15, 2017, 4:49 pm
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I had an interesting phone call last night.
Uncomplicating: When I first started writing the forum/site, I
wasn't sure how much I needed to change things, and how far I
should go. Over time, I had certain realizations, became more
sure about how things work, and realized what people were most
interested in. While there were some things that have stayed
the way they were, there were a lot of things that I just havent
addressed much. Because of that there are some changes that I
either made, and didn't need to, or that I might have made, but
just am not sure.
Having said that, let me say that I have a cousin - Andy - whom
i may have called Eddie at one point, long, long ago. If any of
that sounds a confusingly familiar - that's why.
I should also mention that my family is kind of confusing.
Because I was single parented by my mom from about 7 to 9 (the
years when I really start to remember things), and because her
parents both come from big families (I think her father had 9
older siblings, while my grandmother had 10), she had a lot of
cousins, and it's those whom I really remember.
Andy is one of those.
One further complication is that Andy is actually more distant
than that. His mom got divorced when she was pregnant with him,
and she already had children, so her parents ended up adopting
him, meaning that I thought of him as my mom's first cousin, up
until he and I were both teens and we were told the truth.
Andy and I didn't live far away from each other, but we weren't
especially close either. We were the type of friends who got
along great when we saw each other, but didn't see each other
all that often. As adults, we've only seen each other a few
times, and I don't think we've seen each other at all in 20
years.
Anyhoo - back to the phone call.
Andy is currently divorced, and has three minor kids living with
him. He's coming to Dallas next week for vacation, and he was
hoping to see me. I told him he's more than welcome to see me
on Thursday, and that we can find room for him to stay here. He
tried to decline (like I said, I think it was 95 last time we
saw each other - I guess he forgot what I'm like), but we
decided he'll be coming by Sunday afternoon, when they get to
town, and they'll have Thanksgiving with us. He's not sure when
they're going home, so he may spend the night here a night or
two.
I'm kind of looking forward to it.
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Re: Cousin Andy
By: Jack Date: November 19, 2017, 4:47 pm
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One thing I said that might have been a bit misleading is that
Andy and I weren't especially close.
When I think of cousins, there are a few people who come to mind
first - my mom's nephews, Everret and Bryan, my Dad's nephew,
Ryan, who lives here in Bransom now, Ralph's nephew, Darren
(father of DJ and Kyle), and Andy. Andy was my grandfather's
nephew, and I mostly saw him at funerals, and the occasional
family reunion. There were a few other times, but one I
remember very clearly.
It was the summer of '79, when both of us were 14 years old.
My mom dropped me at the bus station early one morning towards
the end of summer (probably early August). Andy and Uncle Andy
picked me up a few hours later. We did something that
afternoon, though I honestly can't tell you what - some kind of
museum exhibit that was at least moderately interesting. Andy
and I had only seen each other once since adolescence, and we
were both really shy and pretty uncomfortable around each other,
and having that neutral area to break the ice was probably a
good idea. I do remember that, when we went to bed that night,
we slept in the same shorts we'd been wearing without taking
showers.
Andy's parents (whom I'm going to call my aunt and uncle, though
they were really Mom's aunt and uncle) worked a flea market over
the weekend, and we went with them that next day. I remember
a bit more about this day, because I actually found a guy
selling a good selection of old comics. That was the only thing
it has going for it, though. Mostly Andy and I just walked
around.
That being August, Andy and I were both sweaty and ripe when we
got home that evening. We each showered. Andy went first, and
he took clean shorts and briefs into the bathroom with him, so I
did the same.
We were 14-year olds, and his parents were older than my
grandparents, so we were staying up late. They had HBO when
cable hadn't even made it to Bransom, and we had already stayed
up late both nights, watching R-rated movies or watching
concerts (I specifically remember Thank God It's Friday,
Carwash, and a KISS concert).
The next morning, Uncle Andy (yes, they were both Andy) woke
us, and was not especially happy. He'd already tried a couple
of times, and we now had to hurry to get to church. We both had
to shave, and he told us to both shower because our hair was
messy. I was up a bit quicker, got slacks instead of shorts,
and went to shower again. I guess Andy was waiting for me,
because a couple of minutes later, I could hear his dad telling
him to get in their now, because he did not want to have a talk
while I was there. I'm assuming 'talk' was a euphemism.
When I finished the shower, I reached out for a towel and had my
briefs on before I got out. Andy had shaved (though to be
honest, you could barely tell), and was standing there in his
briefs, which is the first time I'd seen him like that. I got
out, drying my hair, and kept my back turned while he got in.
While I shaved and left the bathroom before he got out, I do
have to say that I got a decent look at him in his briefs, and
he not only had a round and firm rear, but he seemed to be
pretty well hung as well.
(to be continued)
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Re: Cousin Andy
By: Jack Date: November 20, 2017, 4:47 am
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Modern Update:
Andy did arrive for his visit. He brought three boys with him.
Looking back, I don't see where I ever described Andy. Which is
kind of hard to do, because he generally looks like me - he's
taller than I am by a couple of inches (about 6'1"), but he has
dark brown hair (going grey and thinning out now). He has blue
eyes. His face is a bit leaner than mine. I also considered
him much better looking than me, but it's hard to describe why -
his nose is a bit less broad than mine, his lips are a bit
thinner, and he has a stronger chin are the main things). He
was more athletic than me, but he's also 52, and he's carrying a
little extra around the middle himself these days.
While his family is nowhere near as large as mine, it's still a
bit unusual. I think I have the details straight, but I'm not
sure on the names or ages.
Andy was married his senior year in college, when it turned out
his lady friend (who had already graduated) was pregnant.
They'd planned to marry when he graduated, so this was just a
jump ahead. They have two children, Nancy (who is 30 now) and
Larry (28).
When Nancy was a teenager (15?) she got pregnant. She
considered an abortion (which her parents were strongly against)
or adoption. Andy was adopted and raised by his grandparents,
so he pretty much insisted on doing the same thing, so his
oldest son at home AJ (Andy Jr.) is actually his grandson, and
is 14 now (but in 8th grade).
Of the three boys Andy bought with him, the middle boy, Ridley,
is 12 and in seventh grade, and is also adopted, but he is
Andy's (former) step-son, the son of his second wife.
Alex is the youngest - 10 years old and in 5th grade.
At this point, Andy is single, and I think that's why he's
traveling this week. It sounds like he's only been divorced a
couple of years, and he also had some trouble with his daughter
over the last year or so. While he and Larry get along fine,
Larry had to go see his in-laws for the holidays, and Andy just
decided he wanted fresh scenery.
My basic feeling is that Andy wants someone to talk to. He used
to be closest with our cousin Eddie, but I haven't seen Eddie in
longer than I have Andy. Maybe I'm wrong, or maybe he's just
trying to renew old friendships, but we did have a good time
yesterday.
I saw a dark grey Nissan Murano pull up in front of the house
yesterday, right around noon. A second later, my phone rang.
"Jack, I think I'm close to your house, but I wanted to check
again."
"Do you drive a grey Murano, Andy? Then you're here."
As I've said, my house is on a double lot, and it's built very
wide from the street. We had a cool day yesterday, and there
were all kinds of kids out front and around the side running and
playing. Andy and his three boys got out, looking kind of shell
shocked.
I had told him he could stay here, but he had thought I hadn't
known what I was asking for. I met his kids, then introduced
everyone around and gave them the tour. The boys left their
stuff in the car, and were dragged off by their cousins before
we could finish the tour.
Andy had planned to stop and visit, then move on. When he saw
the place, he accepted my invitation for at least part of the
time. He is going to stay in Fort Worth a night or two, because
he has some relatives over there. He also took off for a while
yesterday afternoon, because he'd made a couple of promises to
the kids. They spent the night last night though, and Andy and
I stayed up a while, just catching up on old times.
No fights reported, so I guess our kids got along as well.
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Re: Cousin Andy
By: kalico Date: November 20, 2017, 10:14 am
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Sounds like y'all had a great visit and the boys enjoyed meeting
and getting along with the new family members
Hugs kal
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Re: Cousin Andy
By: Jack Date: November 21, 2017, 4:57 pm
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We had a beautiful day today, and Andy decided to go into Fort
Worth and visit the Museum of Science and History and the Zoo.
Marcus, Chris, and Terry ended up taking the bus and passenger
van and many many kids with them. They were originally going to
spend the next couple of nights in Fort Worth, before coming
back here Thursday morning, since Eddie and his family are going
to the in-laws for Thanksgiving (and Eddie's kids are older than
Andy's). It's supposed to be pretty chilly tomorrow (mid 50s
F/about 14C), but it was nice here today, so they changed plans
a bit. Tomorrow, Andy is taking his kids to Grapevine Mills to
do the Aquarium and some other stuff.
I think Kenny was a bit unhappy at discovering two more
relatives who are older than him, so he might have been bragging
a bit. They called him on his brags, so he went to Ethan, then
came down and plugged a thumb drive into the big TV in the
living room, and showed himself, Van, and Fido performing at the
mall last year. Okay, maybe they didn't believe Fido performed
with him and Van. Anyway, they all seemed to enjoy watching
some of last years Christmas footage.
Oh, and I found out that Andy does spank, and it sounds like all
three are under threat. Yesterday morning, the boys wanted to
watch TV while they ate breakfast. I explained that we don't
watch TV with meals (maybe news if it's something really big).
They complained and argued a bit, and Andy came in and told them
to sit down and eat. When everyone had put their dishes away
and the table was cleaned, my boys headed off to do chores.
Andy asked to speak to his boys. He took them around the
corner, but I was able to hear this conversation.
"What happens if I tell you to do something and you backtalk
me?"
"You whup our butts."
"What if you disobey me?"
"We get it worse."
"We're in Jack's house, and he's being really nice to us. Since
it's his house, he makes the rules. And if you disobey or
backtalk him, what do you think's going to happen?"
"You're gonna whup our butts?"
"That's right."
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Re: Cousin Andy
By: Jack Date: December 17, 2017, 10:40 am
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Continuing from Response #1.
As I said, we'd slept Friday and Saturday in the same shorts
we'd worn during the day. Then Sunday morning, Uncle Andy had
forced us to shower - using the bathroom at the same time, if
not actually showering together. I got a good look at Andy in
his briefs, and I'm sure he had a good look at me.
Sleeping in briefs is more comfortable than in cutoff jeans, so,
that night, I went ahead and stripped to my briefs. Andy did
the same.
Andy and i did not have a fantastic week. His parents hadn't
planned a full week for us or anything. We just spent the time
doing what either of us would have done alone - walking around
and talking (well, we probably wouldn't have done as much of
that alone), visiting some of his friends, playing games,
reading, and watching TV.
I think it was Tuesday, we were out walking late morning, before
it got too hot, heading for a convenience store which Andy knew
carried comics. We were walking by one yard, and a kid was out
there playing. He was maybe ten. His mom had obviously called
him several times, because she came storming out the door
holding a belt. The kid saw that, panicked, and tried to get
away . She managed to grab his arm, landed three or four solid
smacks, then let him go and told him to get in the house.
We stood there for a moment, after watching mom chase the boy
inside. I was too worried about him not noticing my reaction to
notice if he had one. After a bit, we started walking on. And
a few minutes after that, he spoke.
"Do you remember that time I saw you get spanked?"
"Uh.... No?"
Actually, I did. It had been half our life ago. The summer we
were seven years old, he'd spent a day with us while visiting
some other cousins in our area. I just didn't remember that it
was him for some reason. He reminded me of Mom spanking my butt
in the living room, and then something happened, where she took
me into her room. He heard her telling me to pull down my
pants. She came back for the flyswatter, leaving the door open,
and he caught a glimpse of me standing there, pants around my
knees.
I did get him talking about spanking a bit, but he didn't seem
very interested in disgusting his own - no more than I was
interested in discussing mine. He did ask about if I'd seen how
Mom spanked, which I had, but only a few times when she spanked
Danielle in front of me. After a few minutes, the subject faded
away. At least until that night.
I don't remember specifically what we'd watched, but we were
going to bed, and each of us stripped down to our briefs, then
climbed into (our own twin) bed.
After a couple of minutes, Andy's interests started becoming
more obvious. He asked me questions about spankings, but this
time he was specifically about Danielle.
"Are you jerking off?" I asked, trying to hide the same signs
that I was as well.
"Yeah, " he admitted after a second. "Aren't you?"
"Yeah."
He let me ask him questions -finding out that his dad used a
belt on his pants, or sometimes pants down. His mom hadn't
spanked him in years, not since he was pretty little. He
actually got more spankings from Eddie's dad, than he did his
own parents (the two of them lived a lot closer than I was to
either of them, and they were also closer relations). The two
of them were spanked together by Eddie's mom and dad when they
were younger, and by his dad when they were older (it sounded
like they might have even got it that summer, based on the way
he hesitated a couple of times). Eddie's dad spanked mostly
pants down, but occasionally bare, and yes, the two of them did
get it bare.
It was when he talked about Eddie's mom spanking them bare with
a paddle when they were 11 or 12, that the truth occurred to me.
Andy was into spanking, but only when it involved girls. It
could be a girl getting it, or a woman getting it, and he seemed
especially fond of a woman spanking a girl. On the other hand,
he was willing to hare enough of us stories - especially those
where he with or without Eddie were spanked by Eddie's mom, that
both of us got our nuts that evening.
We were both kind of awkward the next day. What we did during
the day didn't stick to me mind. Maybe that's the day we
played 17 games of Stratego?
That night, after his parents went to bed, we were waiting for
some movie, and he complained about the heat. Since we had time
before the show, he said he was going to go shower. When he
came back, he was wearing only his briefs. He suggested I do
the same. When I came back, we settled down on the couch.
While waiting for the movie to start, he started talking about a
couple of movies he'd seen that had girls getting spanked, and
even a couple (Yours, Mine, and Ours?) with a woman spanking a
boy.
Both of us were hard.
"You wanna do it?" he asked.
"Here?"
"Mom and Dad won't come in here after they go to bed."
He reached down and started rubbing himself through his shorts.
After a moment, I did the same.
He'd heard that Barry Lyndon had a spanking scene, so he'd
watched it, hoping it involved a fem. He didn't mind telling me
about it.
"Have you ever done somebody else?" I asked him after a minute.
He paused, then nodded. I reached into my shorts, then he did
the same. Then I reached over and slid my short down. He slid
over so we were pretty close to each other, then slid his down.
Then we reached over and took each other. It took a bit of
work, but they had a sitting group, not just a normal couch, and
we were able to get up where both of us were learning back,
facing each other, with our hips touching. Of course, our
biggest mistake was not having anything to clean up with.
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Re: Cousin Andy
By: db105 Date: January 1, 2018, 9:34 pm
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Hot anecdote. It's funny those situations where you are trying
to find out more but at the same time you don't dare because you
don't want to reveal too much about yourself. That time Andy and
you went beyond that impasse.
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Re: Cousin Andy
By: Jack Date: January 2, 2018, 6:19 am
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I was good at approaching people, but it usually meant me
working myself up before hand.
When I was in this type of situation, especially with people the
same age, I was pretty horrible, not just at reacting, but at
catching hints. Looking back as an adult, I think there are at
least four guys I was really hot for, who made passes at me, but
I just didn't notice.
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Re: Cousin Andy
By: Adric Date: January 2, 2018, 12:44 pm
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[quote author=Jack link=topic=175.msg2713#msg2713
date=1514895546]
When I was in this type of situation, especially with people the
same age, I was pretty horrible, not just at reacting, but at
catching hints. Looking back as an adult, I think there are at
least four guys I was really hot for, who made passes at me, but
I just didn't notice.[/quote]
That must be a common problem. I can think of several times in
the past when I would have handled things differently if I had
been able to catch the hint.
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Re: Cousin Andy
By: Jack Date: February 11, 2018, 4:52 pm
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Talked to Andy today. He had the idea of taking his boys to
Jellystone Camp Ground over Spring Break, and he wanted us to go
along. I was willing, but they were booked up already. I
called Andy back, and we decided that it would be better to go
in July, when there was a better chance of being able to use the
water park and everything anyway.
Andy and I stayed on the phone for a while, and Skyped a bit. I
have the feeling he wanted to talk about something, but he just
didn't know how to bring it up. He never has really told me why
he's divorced and estranged from his daughter, so I kind of
wonder if he was working up to talking about that.
Now that they've cancelled their spring break plans, I told him
he's more than welcome to spend a few days here and explore DFW,
but he didn't commit. We'll have to wait and see.
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