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Re: Fall '19 Spanking Report
By: Zyngaru Date: November 7, 2019, 3:12 pm
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Ethan sounds a lot like me when I was his age. No pubes until I
was 15 and still only have a thin crop of pubes. Armpit hair
not until I was 16 and have even less pit hair than pubes. No
chest hair. Very thin leg hair, that took 60 years to grow in.
My dad was even smoother than me, so I know exactly where I
inherited my hairlessness. When I graduated high school I was
the same size Ethan is now, by how you describe him.
I hated grounding. I didn't like whippings either, but they
were better than groundings. For me, a whippings allowed me to
get all the anxiousness out of me, and help me find emotional
stability. Grounding only increased my emotional anxiousness.
If this is the same with Ethan, then I can understand his
increased affection after being spanked.
I do find it interesting that a 17 year old would sit on your
lap mostly naked after being spanked. I love that he did. He
is a boy I could love without any trouble.
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Re: Fall '19 Spanking Report
By: Jack Date: November 7, 2019, 3:39 pm
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[quote author=Zyngaru link=topic=1489.msg15831#msg15831
date=1573161149]
I do find it interesting that a 17 year old would sit on your
lap mostly naked after being spanked.
[/quote]
I don't think I said earlier that, probably as part of his ADHD,
Ethan isn't exactly mature for his age. However, in this case,
I think it was a combination of the trouble he seems to be
having with his dad right now, and how badly the spanking broke
him down that really made him forget himself.
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Re: Fall '19 Spanking Report
By: db105 Date: November 8, 2019, 2:24 am
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He's a bit old for a spanking, but it sounds like it did him
good. Better than a grounding would have, anyway. It cleared the
air better than whatever his dad is doing.
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Re: Fall '19 Spanking Report
By: Jack Date: November 8, 2019, 2:44 am
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I don't think it's anything his dad is doing.
It's hard for me to talk about his dad and be fair. Let's just
say 'political differences' and leave it at that, except to say
our friendship is somewhat strained these days, and might not
exist if not for the kids.
What I will say is that David and I are at the age where there
was real tension over the idea that a 'real man' didn't have to
act like John Wayne, and that Alan Alda was also a real man,
even though he showed positive emotions and revealed himself to
be vulnerable. David is the old fashioned type of guy for the
most part, and I think he's just not as affectionate as his boys
need, which has a lot to do with where Ethan ended up last week.
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Re: Fall '19 Spanking Report
By: Zyngaru Date: November 8, 2019, 7:23 am
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[quote author=Jack link=topic=1489.msg15843#msg15843
date=1573202687]
I don't think it's anything his dad is doing.
It's hard for me to talk about his dad and be fair. Let's just
say 'political differences' and leave it at that, except to say
our friendship is somewhat strained these days, and might not
exist if not for the kids.
What I will say is that David and I are at the age where there
was real tension over the idea that a 'real man' didn't have to
act like John Wayne, and that Alan Alda was also a real man,
even though he showed positive emotions and revealed himself to
be vulnerable. David is the old fashioned type of guy for the
most part, and I think he's just not as affectionate as his boys
need, which has a lot to do with where Ethan ended up last week.
[/quote]
That makes a lot of sense. If Ethan's dad is like my dad was,
in that "Real Men" don't show emotions or affection, especially
to boys, then it makes perfect sense that Ethan broke down the
way he did and showed what affection he felt he could with you.
Boys need to be hugged just as much as girls do. But even in
regular households people seem to think when a boy becomes a
teen he no longer needs or wants the hugs.
I broke that cycle in my family. I started hugging my nephews
early and continued right into their teen years and now they
still have to have their hug when they visit. I didn't want my
nephews growing up with the lack of affection that I grew up
with.
So if Ethan's dad is of that philosophy, then it makes absolute
sense for Ethan to look for affection elsewhere and for it to
strain his relationship with his dad. I call it "Male Bonding."
But for a boy to bond with a man, the man has to let the boy
in. He cannot hold him off at arms length.
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Re: Fall '19 Spanking Report
By: Jack Date: November 12, 2019, 4:29 pm
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Craig finally got his first spanking.
I was hesitant about doing it, but his behavior demanded it.
Last night, he didn't come in until about 6:45. I called him
about 6:20, but he didn't answer. The second is rarely
acceptable, and the first is an automatic spanking offense.
He didn't really have an excuse. He'd been at Sam's and 'just
lost track of time, (he) guess(ed)'.
I sighed and started lecturing him about how important it is to
follow the rules, and why we have rules like that one. He
interrupted me.
"I thought you were going to start treating me like the other
guys."
Pause.
"Craig, coming in this late is a spanking offense."
He refused to use the 's-word' or even mention a paddle, but he
did repeat that I'd 'promised to treat (him) like (I do) the
other guys.'
So, I did.
Kind of.
Craig just turned 14 and he's not horribly small for his age, so
he should have gotten a dose of the Red Maple. On the other
hand, he hasn't had any type of corporal punishment since he was
about 6, and (from what Chance has said), what he has had in the
past was closer to what I'd call swats than an actual spanking.
He has obviously talked to some of the other boys, because he
knew pretty well what to expect, but there is a huge gap between
having an idea and experiencing it.
I explained that to him, and he nervously accepted it, and he
agreed to trust me on the matter.
He did not like that I removed his pants and boxers for him, but
I did want him to get the entire experience, and he's not that
old yet. At least he did behave pretty well, though there was
some flinching while I undressed him, but no actual resistance.
I ended up putting him over my lap and giving him a long,
thorough hand spanking. He took it pretty well - he was sobbing
and yelping before I finished, but not actually crying. I kept
him over my lap and rubbed his butt for a minute, then I
reminded him that teens get the Red Maple. He admitted he knew,
so I picked it up, and gave him 14 slow, firm smacks - mostly on
his butt, but a couple on his upper thighs.
He was crying hard and loud by the end.
I helped him up, hugged him for a second, then helped him get
back into his boxers. He seemed more comfortable once he was at
least partially dressed, so I hugged him a bit more until he
calmed down a bit. I took him into my bedroom to clean up and
finish dressing, and then we talked a bit more.
He never admitted that he'd made a deliberate choice to provoke
me to spanking him, but he did comment that he felt I'd been
taking it easy on him (maybe I've been letting small
misbehaviors slide, but I don't really think so - not more than
i do with the other guys these days). On the other hand, as bad
as he confessed it was (hard to cover it up when you break down
crying like that), he wants to be treated like the other guys
would have been at his age, so next time, he's probably going to
get a full taste of the Red Maple. I would say 'if there is a
next time', but we'll wait and see.
#Post#: 15899--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fall '19 Spanking Report
By: db105 Date: November 12, 2019, 4:59 pm
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Sometimes real life can resemble a spanking story. The boy who
maybe subconsciously craves a spanking to feel he is one more of
the family... that happens with some regularity in your
(admittedly unconventional) family, Jack, so it must be some
common human instinct to belong and be part of the group.
#Post#: 15900--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fall '19 Spanking Report
By: Zyngaru Date: November 12, 2019, 5:16 pm
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Jack the way you wrote it, it does sound like Craig,
deliberately maneuvered things to get the spanking.
Adults never know all that boys are talking about when we aren't
around. Wasn't it Craig that got one of the other boys to spank
him? I seem to remember it being him and you had to talk to him
about it, being a foster kid. So there is a history here of him
desiring to be one of the boys and more important to him I
think, he wants to be one of YOUR boys. You are his father
figure, and he wants to make sure you think of him as one of
your sons.
Did you adopt him and Chance? I seem to remember something
along those lines also being discussed. It's really difficult
for me to keep up with how each boy fits into your family
dynamic.
Either way, I can understand him wanting the spanking just to
prove to himself he fits in. Not that he enjoys spankings.
Seems like the being undressed, was the part that bothered him
the most, but then he is at that age, where shyness can be
powerful.
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Re: Fall '19 Spanking Report
By: Adric Date: November 12, 2019, 6:16 pm
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My guess is that Craig's next move will be to make sure the
story of his Red Maple ordeal spreads quietly around the house.
He'll tell his best friends, then shyly admit it to anyone else
who asks, pretending to be embarrassed but actually proud. It's
not just about being accepted by Jack, but also being accepted
by the other boys in the family. If you are going to sacrifice
your butt like that, you have to play it for all it is worth.
;)
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Re: Fall '19 Spanking Report
By: Jack Date: November 13, 2019, 2:30 pm
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[quote author=Zyngaru link=topic=1489.msg15900#msg15900
date=1573600591]
Did you adopt him and Chance?
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It should be next month - there's usually a six month waiting
period on adoptions, and the judge is willing to go with the
date he first came to visit. We have pretty much all the eyes
crossed and teas dotted already. I could have done an adult
adoption with Chance at any time, but we quickly decided to do
them at the same time.
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