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#Post#: 15481--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fall '19 Spanking Report
By: Jack Date: October 14, 2019, 8:30 am
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Yes. He called his Dad Saturday morning, then handed the phone
to me. I let his Dad know that I felt the main problem was that
they'd left -- not really with a friend of theirs, but with that
friend's older brother -- and he hadn't been a dependable ride
back, so mostly an error of judgement. I made sure he knew I'd
already handled the consequences to my satisfaction, and Mr.
Reasoner knew exactly what I meant and was satisfied.
Mr. Reasoner and I did talk about it again yesterday, and we
decided that both boys can still go to the rest of the games,
but that they're specifically forbidden from leaving without
specific permission, which won't have much effect on their
freedom, but should help them remember the point.
#Post#: 15526--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fall '19 Spanking Report
By: Jack Date: October 17, 2019, 10:55 am
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Connor got spanked last night.
For reference, we've been building towards this for a while. A
couple of weeks ago, I posted a BOTD where he and Curtis had
hidden some stuff that they'd been supposed to do, then lied
about it. I didn't want to spank them in front of a crowd, but
by the time company had gone home, they'd cleaned it all up, so
I burned their ears, but not their bottoms. Connor has also had
a couple of minor curfew violations, he's pushed it with his
chores in other places, and he's been dragging his feet with
getting things done on time. In other words, he'd been pushing
the envelope, but not quite tearing it.
Last night, I knew for a fact that Connor was going over on his
screen time, and it was time to get ready for bed, so I told him
to turn off the game and go get ready for his bath. I went to
tell teh same thing to Curtis, went through the bathroom to
check with Van on some homework, and went back to the playroom.
Connor was still playing his game. Connor and Curtis normally
bath together, partially for time, partially to get each other's
back, and because Curtis is a bit slipshod about washing his own
hair when needed. I told Curtis to go ahead with his own bath,
then I went back to get Connor.
I started chewing him out in the playroom. Ordinarily, dragging
his feet wouldn't be an immediate spanking offense, but in this
case, it was a culmination of issues. We ended up going to look
at the calendar where I keep track of things like restrictions
and chore strikes, so he could see how much he'd been pushing
things. I reminded him of the incident a couple of weeks ago,
and pointed out he was already on 2 strikes and a warning.
By this point, Curtis was in the bath, so Connor and I went into
their bedroom. I sat down and started undressing Connor, making
it very clear that, while this spanking was specifically for
this incident of disobedience, he'd been building up to it for a
while. I stripped him completely, since he needed to get in the
bath when we were finished. Because I felt it was a more or
less minor offense, it was a hand spanking instead of using the
Tailblazer, I did still take the time to do a thorough job, and
he was bawling before I finished.
We cuddled for a bit after I finished, then I sent him to the
corner to think about how he could have avoided this by towing
the line previously, and about how your behavior builds up and
causes you problems.
Last night wasn't soccer practice, and the weather has been
cooler recently, so Curtis didn't really need to wash his hair.
I washed his back for him, then he got out. Connor had
indicated he'd prefer a shower, so I let him come out of the
corner, and he got another hug, before going to get himself
cleaned up.
#Post#: 15530--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fall '19 Spanking Report
By: db105 Date: October 17, 2019, 5:59 pm
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Was Connor aware that he was one inch away from a spanking or
did it come as a surprise?
#Post#: 15538--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fall '19 Spanking Report
By: Jack Date: October 18, 2019, 8:08 am
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I think it's fair to say that spankings almost always come as a
surprise to boys. Having said that, I'd warned him a couple of
times that he'd been pushing his luck, and that he really needed
to start thinking a bit more about his behavior.
#Post#: 15539--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fall '19 Spanking Report
By: Zyngaru Date: October 18, 2019, 2:53 pm
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[quote author=Jack link=topic=1489.msg15538#msg15538
date=1571404097]
I think it's fair to say that spankings almost always come as a
surprise to boys. Having said that, I'd warned him a couple of
times that he'd been pushing his luck, and that he really needed
to start thinking a bit more about his behavior.
[/quote]
Agree Jack. Boys don't sit down and think out how far they can
push things. It's not like a boy is going to think. I can get
away with this. It's just a little bit over the line. Boys
tend to act spontaneously. They see it, they want it, they get
it.
So, I agree spankings come as a bit of a surprise. Once you
start pointing everything out, they usually see how it has added
up, but mostly they don't think in accumulative terms. I got
away with that, so on to the next thing.
At least that is my experience.
#Post#: 15595--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fall '19 Spanking Report
By: Jack Date: October 22, 2019, 9:43 am
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I have been meaning to update this for several days, but it
seems like I can't sit down without getting distracted.
Kline got his bottom worn out Saturday evening.
As a reminder, Kline is 12 and 3/4 now (he'll be 13 in January).
What happened is that the boys were just 'around' Saturday
evening. Some of the boys were apparently just riding their
bikes in the driveway and in front of the house (not so much
riding them as just sitting on them and talking really), when
Brandon Malone came by. Brandon and Kline are both 7th graders
at BCA, they've known each other basically forever now (or since
Kline started at BCA, at least), they have most of their classes
together, and they're good friends. This being less than two
weeks before Halloween, a lot of people were decorating their
yards, and Brandon suggested they ride around and look at
everything.
No one is sure when this happened, but around 5:30. I doubt
that's all the two boys did, because it was about 6:20 when I
noticed Kline was gone (no formal dinner, so I don't check as
closely on Friday and Saturday evenings). A few minutes to
confirm he wasn't home, and a phone call, and it was 6:42 by the
time he actually got home. Of course, everyone knew he was in
trouble.
Kline didn't seem too worried at first, after we'd reached my
office. It wasn't until I pointed out that he'd not only came
in past the 'automatic spanking' point, rather than just missing
curfew, but that he'd also taken off without permission (another
spanking offense), that he started to seem stressed.
Much to my amusement, he started trying to blame Brandon (who
wasn't there, so it wasn't too bad an abuse of their
friendship). I pointed out that he could have told Brandon it
was okay, but he had to let me or one of the older boys know
before they left. He then switched tactics and tried to say it
wasn't fair to spank him, when Brandon wasn't getting in
trouble, even though they'd done the same thing. I had to point
out that Brandon had never officially been at our house, so
wasn't responsible for letting me know he was leaving, and that
he had headed home, so his parents would handle the curfew
violation if he had one (he didn't, since he only needed to be
home 'before it got dark', not by a certain time).
Kline switched from worried to really upset when I pointed out
he'd committed two separate, spankable offenses, and that he was
getting very close to 13, so he was in a lot of trouble. On
impulse, I took his pants and boxer briefs down past his knees,
then sent him to the corner to 'think about his behavior', while
I thought about what to do about his behavior.
I already had a pretty good idea what I was going to do, so I
only left him there a couple of minutes. Kline isn't real big
for his age, and he doesn't have any hair yet, but he's showing
some definite development, while not growing so fast as to
flatten out his rear, so he does provide a pretty nice view.
When he came back, he groaned. I'd laid out the Tailblazer, the
Red Maple, and a hairbrush. We talked for a moment about what
he'd done, how he'd been a bad example, why he needed to face
the consequences, and how I decided what those consequences
should be.
Marcus doesn't really keep me up to date on all the spankings he
gives. I know there are some I just don't hear about until much
later, and/or not in much (if any) detail. Because Emmet has
his own room and his own activities, he sometimes knows what's
happened, but not always. I do know that the sight of the brush
especially had Kline nearly in tears.
I offered Kline the choice between getting the brush and being
finished, or getting a deluxe session with the Tailblazer and
doing some corner time to think about the ways he'd screwed up.
He stayed with the devil he knew and chose the Tailblazer.
I took the time to do a long thorough job and I made sure his
upper thighs and sit spots got plenty of attention. He was
bawling before I was finished. I know these were procedural
faults, rather than moral, but I felt that because it was two of
them, because they were so blatant, and because he's at the age
where this kind of behavior becomes more common, that I needed
to make a definite statement on the issue.
When we were finished, I helped him up, gave him a quick but
firm hug, then escorted him to the corner. He spent 12 minutes
with his nose firmly in the corner, while he held up his shirt.
After the twelve minutes, I let him come back to me. He was
still walking slow and carefully. I gave him a chance to
apologize and explain why he'd been wrong, then I helped him
dress, and we cuddled a bit more.
As normal, I allowed him to clean up in my bathroom so he could
have some privacy to get himself together. Then we went and got
something for us to eat, since the other kids had already gotten
their dinner by that point.
#Post#: 15601--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fall '19 Spanking Report
By: db105 Date: October 22, 2019, 6:05 pm
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Poor Kline! Even though it was two offenses, he probably was
just scatterbrained.
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Re: Fall '19 Spanking Report
By: Zyngaru Date: October 23, 2019, 1:26 pm
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AI can only imagine what was going through Kline's head when he
saw the Red Maple and Hairbrush. He is probably thinking since
he is almost 13, that soon he will be experiencing something
stronger than the Tailblazer. So I can understand staying with
the Tailblazer as long as he can.
Private corner time isn't that big of a deal. If it had been
public then he might have taken the Hairbrush instead.
I just had an image come across my mind. You said you lowered
his pants and boxer briefs down past his knees before leading
him to the corner. In my mind, I can picture myself at his age,
and I know for a fact that my shorts and briefs would have
dropped to my ankles, once past my knees. It would have been
work walking and standing with my legs spread as far as the
cloth would allow, to try and keep them up. :)
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Re: Fall '19 Spanking Report
By: Jack Date: October 23, 2019, 5:17 pm
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[quote author=db105 link=topic=1489.msg15601#msg15601
date=1571785514]
Poor Kline! Even though it was two offenses, he probably was
just scatterbrained.
[/quote]
There's a good chance you're right, but I know his parents rules
aren't much different than mine. Being that he doesn't actually
live here, I might have let it slide if it had been just one
(probably not). While the younger kids do interact with Craig a
lot these days, Kline is still more or less the oldest of that
group, so he has to held to the standard I expect them all to
mind and following basic rules is something I feel like I need
to stay fairly strict on.
[quote author=Zyngaru link=topic=1489.msg15611#msg15611
date=1571855194]
I just had an image come across my mind. You said you lowered
his pants and boxer briefs down past his knees before leading
him to the corner. In my mind, I can picture myself at his age,
and I know for a fact that my shorts and briefs would have
dropped to my ankles, once past my knees. It would have been
work walking and standing with my legs spread as far as the
cloth would allow, to try and keep them up. :)
[/quote]
While Kline doesn't wear skinny legged jeans, he does wear pants
that are more snug than boys were wearing for a while. They did
droop a bit, but they were puddled around his ankles, and he
didn't seem to have a lot of trouble walking (within the stride
they'd allow).
#Post#: 15828--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fall '19 Spanking Report
By: Jack Date: November 7, 2019, 2:36 pm
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I've been trying to make time to report this for a week now, so
I'm just going to put everything else on hold a few minutes
before I forget about it.
Last week, I spanked Ethan Guthrey.
I think it was Adric who pointed out there's not much about the
Guthrey boys on the forum, so I'll try to repost some of the
previously on stuff ASAP. In the meantime, a few important
points.
1) Ethan and Aidan are 17 (just turned) and 14 (15 this month, I
believe).
2) Their dad, David, and I have been friends since we were 9
years old.
3) Both boys are extremely ADHD. Several years ago, they moved
to BCA for their more individual treatment and willingness to
work outside the boundaries. While neither boy is a star
student at this point, both of them are doing much better.
4) The Guthrey's do NOT live in Bransom. Mom works a regular (9
to 6-ish normally) schedule. Dad's is a bit further off than
that. Because of that, and where they work, their Mom (Amy)
drops them off most mornings, then they come over here after
school, and they are normally picked up between 6:30 and 7:30
depending on several things.
5) David did have trouble dealing with discipline issues with
both boys, and he likes the way I deal with things (more setting
rules than reacting). After a few tussles, he and I came to
similar agreements to what I have with the Tidwell family, where
I handle discipline pretty much like one more parent, instead of
waiting, and they're both accepting of that, even if we don't
always agree.
So, because of his ADHD and school troubles, Ethan has very
limited screen time on school days, and he has to earn much of
what he does get. Last Wednesday, he smuggled a DS cartridge
out of the house on the way to school. When he got here, he
snuck Kenny's 3DS from Kenny and Colt's room and took it
upstairs to what's mostly my overflow library now.
I went looking for him to see if his homework was done, and
couldn't find him, and his phone was with his book bag, so I
started the search and found him. At that point, he'd been
missing for more than an hour.
He and I talked about things. He's not supposed to have any
screen time (without special permission) until his homework has
been checked, and probably not until he's at least made a start
on it. The fact that he brought a cartridge from home is proof
that this was a deliberate and premeditated violation. The fact
that he took Kenny's game without permission was another offense
in and of itself.
My intention was to let him know he was in trouble, ground him
to the house for a day or two for taking Kenny's game without
permission, and let his dad decide the rest. That didn't go
over well, since he had a Halloween Party he wanted to attend
Friday night (and was scheduled to be at ours Saturday night),
and he seemed convinced that his dad would ground him for 'at
least' several days.
Let me pause here to say that Ethan his father's soon. David
was one of the smallest kids I knew when we were growing up (he
was still singing soprano our freshman year in high school), and
Ethan himself didn't get his first pubic hair until he was 15.
Ethan is bigger than his father now, and might not be full
grown, but he's only about 5'8" and 120 pounds - not too skinny,
but a very lean build. He looks a LOT like his dad, and has
very fair skin, dark brown hair, and blue eyes.
Do I even need to add 'very spankable'?
So yeah, it was probably not the right decision, but it was
within my rights, so I took it.
I did warn him before he agreed that I considered what he'd done
to be very immature, and the fact that he'd planned it ahead of
time only made that worse. I warned him that he would
definitely not think he'd gotten off easy, but he still agreed.
He was still in his school uniform. I was going to bare him
myself, but he begged me not to, so I did give him that, as long
as he didn't drag his feet. At my instruction, he stripped off
his button down shirt, then removed his slacks, then his boxer
briefs. I was sitting there, watching and waiting, and I had
the small Lexan tucked under my right leg. While it's been way
over a year since he got his first pubic hair, he is not a very
hairy person, and, besides his penis and a bit under his arms,
he basically has no body hair.
While he has a lean build, and he's active, if not athletic, he
does have a decent rear. A nice, if not incredibly defined arch
from back to legs, and only mild dimples when he's not clenching
(I'm pretty sure he wears a boy's 16, so maybe a 28" waist?).
This was a double offense, and it was premeditated, so I was
leaning towards a double deluxe session. He was already sobbing
and squealing before I got to his legs the first time, so I cut
that back from 9 to six swats on his legs. By the time I
finished the second pattern, he was bawling really hard, so I
cut that back again to only four swats on the legs and only two
more swats to the sit spots to finish.
Here's where it gets a little weird. Ethan isn't shy, but he's
always been very uncomfortable in this kind of situation (call
it forced nudity). In this case, he let me hold him over my lap
a few minutes, then he stayed in my lap after I helped him sit
up. I helped him dry his face and let him blow his nose, but
then we started talking for a while. He was very upset with
himself and felt very bad about the premeditation and planned
disobedience.
Finally, Ethan seemed to realize he was sitting in my lap
wearing nothing but socks and a t-shirt, and I ended up helping
him up. After he dressed, we went back to my bathroom for him
to clean up.
Ethan is usually kind of cold after a discipline situation, but
that didn't see to apply in this case. Not only did he stay
close to me most of that afternoon, but he came over early
Saturday and helped clean up/get ready for the next party. He
also made a point of coming to talk to me Saturday night, and he
helped clean up again Sunday.
Over several days, it came out that he and his dad have been
clashing a lot (not enough that anyone calls it actual fighting,
but more butting heads). I know the two of them are usually
close, so I'm guessing either David is being colder than normal
while this is going on, or maybe Ethan feels unable to express
himself with his dad right now. Heck, maybe he was just really
keyed up and he needed an excuse for an emotional release.
Whatever the case, Ethan's definitely been on very good behavior
since then, and he's also been unusually affectionate (at least
to me), so I'm happy with how things went, even if David did
complain that I should have grounded him (but agreed it was
probably better all around that we hadn't had to do that over
Halloween weekend).
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