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       #Post#: 14498--------------------------------------------------
       Spanking and Privacy
       By: Kat Date: August 16, 2019, 5:25 pm
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       I grew up during an era when few parents hesitated to announce
       that a child was to receive a spanking, to openly discuss a
       child's recent spanking, or even to administer a spanking in
       front of strangers in a public place. In large families such as
       mine, it was nearly impossible to have privacy, even if a
       spanking occurred at home.
       How much privacy does a child deserve?
       My own feeling is that parents should be discreet about
       discipline. The older the child, the more humiliating it is for
       him to experience public chastisement or to have adults discuss
       his discipline in front of him. On the other hand, some children
       love to push boundaries in front of an audience. Does public
       disrespect for a parent/authority figure deserve public
       correction? Also, is it ever okay to require disrobing in a
       private or semi-private place? (I'd consider a public restroom
       to be semi-private.)
       Kat
       #Post#: 14506--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Spanking and Privacy
       By: Zyngaru Date: August 16, 2019, 9:57 pm
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       I don't want to get too deep into this subject, when it comes to
       my personal upbringing.  Suffice it to say there is a huge gulf
       between how I was raised and how I believe children should be
       raised.  Privacy was non-existent when I was a boy for me and my
       brothers.
       As for how I believe discipline should be handled.  As much as
       possible I believe that punishment should be done in private.
       What's done in private should be corrected in private.  Boys who
       act together, I am okay with them being punished together and in
       most cases I believe it should be done together, but of course
       there would be a few cases that even then, it could be best done
       privately from each other.  The same goes with public
       misbehaving.  I believe that mischief and disrespect done
       publicly should be punished publicly.  The problem is, our
       society doesn't agree with what I believe.  So even that would
       have to be taken care of privately, in most cases.  There could
       possibly be a few situations where it could be done publicly if
       those present were of like beliefs.
       This goes totally against my kink.  My kink being humiliation
       and embarrassment.  Whether my own boyhood punishments molded my
       kink, I don't know, I hated embarrassing situations as a boy,
       but dreamed about them incessantly.  So that makes for great
       stories, but not very good for real life situations.
       I would try my best to not embarrass a boy publicly, whom I
       punish.  That doesn't mean he wouldn't be spanked naked, because
       he would, but it would just be the two of us, no audience,
       unless a witness was required.  I have acted as a witness to
       both, boys being spanked bare and boys being strip searched.  It
       was done privately, with only those present that were needed to
       be present.
       #Post#: 14512--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Spanking and Privacy
       By: Jack Date: August 17, 2019, 7:54 am
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       Allow me to start my reply with my thoughts on respect.
       I think respect is like a bank account.  When you first meet
       someone, they've opened an account with you. Everyone should
       start out with something in their account.  Some people, like
       teachers or police, start with more than others.  People make
       deposits in their accounts by earning the respect you've given
       them - being polite, good at their jobs, whatever.  People make
       withdrawals from those accounts by being bad at their jobs or
       not treating you well.
       I try to give my kids respect, privacy, and dignity, but there
       are times when just saying 'Am I going to have to wear you out?'
       or "You're getting a whupping when we get home," might be your
       only options to let them know they've gone too far.  Hopefully
       it shouldn't come to that too often, since a parent who's doing
       a good job will have a kid who knows the rules and knows when
       they're pushing too far.
       The way my home is laid out, and as large as my family is, it's
       almost impossible to keep spankings private.  If we go to my
       office, anyone in the area can see us going in there, and
       there's not much question about what's going to happen.  Going
       to my bedroom might offer a few more options about what's about
       to happen, but not many.  And while my house is large and built
       to provide some quiet, it's not soundproof.  If I went into
       someone's room, there could be a lot of reasons I'm going in
       there, but if I'm giving a spanking, it's likely that there will
       be something to overhear. In other words, complete privacy just
       isn't possible.
       On the other hand, in the past, I've used switchings a a public
       event; not just to stress how unacceptable their behavior was to
       the boy(s) in question, but to remind everyone else of the cost
       of illegal behavior.  Looking back, I'm just not sure if that
       was a good idea or how fair it was to the boys who got in that
       kind of trouble.
       I guess that my answer to your ultimate question is that a kid
       deserves as much privacy as it's possible for you to give him,
       but also that it's sometimes not possible to give him a lot, and
       that it is possible for him to give away some or all of that by
       his own actions.
       Groups of kids are a different situation, and my basic feeling
       is that if they get in trouble together, they can accept their
       punishment together.
       #Post#: 14517--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Spanking and Privacy
       By: Zyngaru Date: August 17, 2019, 11:11 am
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       I took the privacy as "Not in view", NOT,  "Not heard" or "Not
       Known about."
       It would be almost impossible to give a spanking in a household
       with other children, and they not know someone was getting
       spanked.  Same with being at school.  You were sent to the
       office or sent out in the hall.  The other kids know what is
       probably about to happen, they just don't see it.
       I understand Privacy in this context of "Not on display."
       Example: Teacher giving swats in the front of the class. As was
       done when I was in Elementary School.  Very public, no privacy.
       Principal giving swats in his/her office.  Private, but most of
       the school knows why you went in there and what you are going to
       get.
       At home.  Getting spanked in the family room while everyone is
       watching Spiderman.  No privacy.
       Sent to your room to be spanked, while Spiderman is put on pause
       and the rest of family waits for you to return.  Private, but
       known by everyone.
       I believe that there should be as much privacy as can be
       afforded.  That includes that Spankings at home, stay at home,
       and no talking about your siblings spanking to your friends or
       his.  If you want to talk about your own spankings, that is
       fair, but not other peoples spankings.
       I love this topic, because when you begin thinking about it,
       there are so many nuances to it, that there could never be a set
       rule.  You can have a general policy, but with all of the
       scenarios that could and often do happen, there just can't be a
       set, carved in stone, "This is how I do it all the time" rule.
       #Post#: 14518--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Spanking and Privacy
       By: Kat Date: August 17, 2019, 11:32 am
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       While the topic is specific to spanking, I think non-corporal
       punishment/discipline should also be private to the extent it's
       possible. I've seen people say very harsh things to children in
       public, yell at them, etc. I'm not sure such behavior isn't just
       as humiliating and damaging as a smack in public.
       Kat
       #Post#: 14520--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Spanking and Privacy
       By: afinch Date: August 17, 2019, 8:07 pm
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       I'm sure being yelled at in public is every bit as humiliating
       as being smacked (and I suspect, at least today), anything
       beyond a smack or two on a clothed bottom would be quickly
       stopped by someone, be it bystanders, store security, or
       police).  Sometimes, though, kids insist on pushing just past
       your very last nerve and pulling them up short can't always wait
       for a "discreet time".  Usually a discreet furious whisper about
       what was going to happen later worked well for me as a kid, and
       later as a parent.  In both cases, it was humiliating wondering
       whether anybody else heard/saw.
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