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       #Post#: 13748--------------------------------------------------
       Chore Strikes
       By: Jack Date: July 9, 2019, 6:29 am
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       Zyngaru had asked about chore strikes in response to a BOTD, so
       I thought I'd just post a quick explanation separately for
       future reference.
       I make a list of what chores the boys are expected to do on a
       daily basis (the chores are daily, I make the list once a week,
       though I normally more or less repeat the same list).  Since I
       use a maid service and a lawn service, the chores are much less
       odious than they probably are for many kids.  Still, the maids
       don't do the boys' rooms (they clean the boys' bathrooms once a
       month to make sure they're really clean and moderately sterile,
       but the boys are expected to do it daily).  Some chores - like
       laundry - aren't available for all the kids, since Curtis still
       isn't quite tall enough to reach where I keep the detergent and
       stuff, even using a step ladder, so I handle most of that.
       The chores basically come down to helping with family stuff -
       preparing meals, setting the table, and cleaning up after,
       cleaning the public spaces, shared laundry, cleaning up after
       themselves, and caring for the pets is the vast majority of
       them.  I do break stuff down, rather than giving them a general
       task like 'clean your room', I have things like 'empty laundry
       hamper' or 'empty bedroom trash', especially in roommate
       situations.
       So, on to the actual strikes.
       During the school year, I try to do a walk around as close to
       8pm as possible, so the boys know when the deadline really is.
       If I'm late, it doesn't matter, but I won't strike if I do it
       early for some reason.  During the summer, it used to be 10am -
       now it's more general, but that's still when they're supposed to
       be done (excepting anything that's time specific, like helping
       with dinner).
       When a boy gets a strike, that's all it is.  He is still
       required to do the chore in most cases.  Strikes can be given if
       chores aren't done correctly (not cleaning the counter or sinks
       if you're responsible for cleaning up after a meal, for
       instance), but that could also just earn a warning.
       Strikes stay for three weeks.
       When you get two strikes in a three week period, you can ask for
       a 'work off', which is a more challenging chore (cleaning a
       grill is a regular one).  One can only use one WO in a three
       week period.
       When you get three strikes, you get spanked.  If you have a WO,
       the spanking is more intense.  Normally, I don't feel the need
       to make these 'barn burners'.  I often give 'just' hand
       spankings with the younger boys.
       I was very strict with this when the forum started (more than 10
       years ago now).  Noah had recently moved in at the time, and I
       had Mickey (13), Noah and Barry (both 12), Johnny and Josh (both
       11), Bryce (10) and Van (7).  I won't worry here about the
       reasons, but chores became a big deal.  Looking back, I think I
       probably blew things up more than they should have been, though
       I'm pretty sure the rules (or the consequences for violations)
       weren't too heinous.
       These days, I don't often have to spank for chores.  It was a
       problem for Leif for a long time, and Devon received more than a
       couple of spankings for violations, but the other boys seem to
       have settled into the system pretty well.
       #Post#: 13750--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chore Strikes
       By: Zyngaru Date: July 9, 2019, 8:34 am
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       Would this system also apply to a spontaneous verbal chore, or
       would that go down as disobedience if not done.  Example, A last
       minute meeting with some people comes up for the next early
       evening and you are going to have it out on the patio.  You
       verbally give the chore (responsibility) to power wash the patio
       and have it done by noon so it has time to dry and be set up for
       the meeting to one of the boys.  At 1 in the afternoon the patio
       still hasn't been washed?  Is that a strike or a disobedience.
       Won't get into the background as to why the job wasn't done,
       just that it wasn't after you had told the boy to do it and he
       understood he was supposed to do it.
       At my age, this information probably will never be used.  I
       doubt that I will ever have kids in my care again.  I am
       enjoying the simple life of retirement.  Especially with my
       sister off in Colorado visiting her boys, I can stay nude at
       home all day long if I want.  But the information still is
       useful and who knows what the future will hold?
       #Post#: 13759--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chore Strikes
       By: Jack Date: July 9, 2019, 3:40 pm
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       One thing you have to remember is the number of boys around
       here.  When I do have an 'emergency chore' come up, I usually
       have a non-family volunteer who's happy to help out (which often
       brings complaints from parents who say they can't get that same
       kid to do a darned thing around their own home, but that's
       another story).  I will normally tell the boys what needs to be
       done, ask for a volunteer, and offer a reward of some type for
       doing it.  Because of the age range of my kids (and probably
       because this is their second family), I've never had a lot of
       trouble getting that type of thing done.
       If I was in a situation like you described, and it didn't get
       done, it would probably depend on the situation, but I lean
       towards considering it disobedience.
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