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Re: Summer '19 Spanking Report
By: Jack Date: June 28, 2019, 12:58 pm
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[quote author=Zyngaru link=topic=1307.msg13537#msg13537
date=1561738276]
I should have known, you would have had all angles figured out
and dealt with before inviting Craig for the visit.
[/quote]
I've always considered Ryan and Daniel were my first two 'real'
foster boys, since they are the ones that came to me through
CPS, rather than knowing me ahead of time. That's been 12 or 13
years, and a lot of conversations with Maggie and the Judge
before setting on something all of us (and Maggie's boss) were
comfortable with. I'll admit, with Ryan and Daniel and even
Noah, I did things the way I wanted, not how I legally should
have. Since then, especially with the Colter and Marsh boys,
I've been much more careful to follow the letter, if not the
spirit, of the rules. On the other hand, we really are one big
(really big), happy family, and shouldn't that be the most
important thing?
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Re: Summer '19 Spanking Report
By: David M. Katz Date: June 28, 2019, 9:02 pm
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[quote author=Jack link=topic=1307.msg13539#msg13539
date=1561744695]
On the other hand, we really are one big (really big), happy
family, and shouldn't that be the most important thing?
[/quote]
Absolutely!
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Re: Summer '19 Spanking Report
By: Jack Date: July 1, 2019, 8:30 am
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There is always a bit of question of hierarchy around here -
there are too many people for there not to be. Generally
speaking, I try to make it clear that I am in charge, and Jeremy
operates directly under me. Jeremy and Liam help a bit with
supervision of the youngest boys, especially when the grands are
around, but I usually handle things myself, and I expect each
boy to be responsible for himself.
Of course, when I'm not home, things are slightly different.
This isn't like the old days, when the forum started, and I had
six pre-teens (Van, Bryce, Johnny, Josh, Barry, and Noah).
Kenny is about to go into high school, Jake is a year younger,
and the only pre-teens I have (living here) are Connor and
Curtis. Of course, right now the college kids are home, so I
have plenty of responsible young adults to help out.
When I 'leave someone in charge', it's not like I expect that
person to suddenly run the family and make all the decisions.
His real duty is to be a communications clearing house for me,
and a partial rubber stamp. When I leave a person in charge, if
you want to do something you would normally ask me about, you
ask that person instead, and that person either okays it or
decides I need to be consulted. A lot of times, it's simply a
question of someone knowing where people are.
Yesterday, that person was Mike Guice.
Outside of relatives, Kenny has three people who are clearly his
best friends - Ian Reasoner and Sam and Owen Loomis. All four
boys are going to be starting high school this fall. All four
boys are between 5'5" and 5'7" or 8" (Ian is tallest by an inch
or two, and Kenny is just a bit taller than the twins - and yes,
Sam and Owen are identical, though not hard to tell apart, since
Owen tends to wear his hair a bit longer and loves green, while
Sam prefers blue). All three of the boys are active and lean,
though the twins are just a bit stockier than Ian and Kenny.
Yes, there is a point to all this, and you can probably guess
what it is, considering where I'm reporting it.
When I arrived home last night, Mike claimed things had gone
well, but he didn't seem enthusiastic about that claim. I
pushed a bit, and he admitted that Kenny and his friends had
been pushing things a bit, had gone behind his back, and had
been less than completely respectful while doing it. I
separated the four of them and asked them what happened. I
think they knew they'd screwed up a bit, based as much on the
way the four of them were trying to explain themselves, more
than what they were actually saying (tripping over each other in
their haste to make explanations). There was nothing horrible
in what they'd done, but besides arguing with Mike to the point
where I would have considered it backtalk, they had been told
'no' about getting stuff from the store, then had just gone and
asked someone else to take them.
I sat down and talked with them, clarifying what I felt they'd
done wrong, and pointing out that I trust them to be on better
behavior when I'm not around, and that when they do things like
this, it makes me not trust them so much.
All four of them were pretty upset at this point, I think mostly
because I was clearly upset with them, and they were starting to
understand that it was justified.
"All four of you know that I believe in the cathartic and
correcting power of a sore bottom for boys who need to be
reminded to behave. While you boys nearly being in high school
doesn't change that, in this case, I think it's probably better
if I just send you on home for tonight."
Kenny knew that sending his friends home probably wouldn't be
all that happened to him, but I felt like it was going to be at
least close to enough to make my point, and I hadn't considered
more. Since this was summer, there was little question that all
three of them would be back in a day or two. Yet, being sent
away was still very symbolic, and I suddenly had four, 14-year
old boys begging me to whup them.
Of course, the fact that three of them would have to be picked
up, then explain to their parents why, might have had some
influence on that.
We went to my bedroom. All four of them were wearing shorts -
basketball for Ian and Kenny and walking for the twins - with
shirts. All four of them also wear shirts - just a tee for Ian,
Sam had a checked camp shirt and Owen and Kenny were wearing
polos. All four of them were barefoot and all four of them wear
boxer briefs. I had all four strip down to just shirts, then
we went into my closet (reminder: a huge walk-in). One at a
time, I put them over the side of the massage table. They were
using one hand to hold on to the handles on the other side, and
their other arms around each other. I got the bath brush, which
made all of them flinch when I came back with it, then I knelt
down in front of them and we had a quick talk about why they
were in trouble.
I had started out planning to give each boy 14 smacks with it,
and they were good, solid smacks with a pop of the wrist to make
sure it really stung. I ended up keeping the 14 on the legs and
sit spots, and all four of them were getting vocal by that
point, then I finished with a couple on the upper legs to make
sure I'd made my point. All of them but Ian had damp eyes, and
all of them were breathing heavy, though none of them were
actually crying. Since what they'd done was disrespectful, but
not immoral or dangerous, I thought I'd made a good, balanced
job of making my point, though the worst part was yet to come.
After hugging them all, and letting them dress and wash up, I
marched all four of them out to apologize to Mike.
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Re: Summer '19 Spanking Report
By: Zyngaru Date: July 1, 2019, 9:27 am
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I totally understand them begging for the whupping instead of
being sent home. Kenny probably figured he was going to get a
whupping once they left anyway, so him begging along with them,
just added to him wanting them to stay. I do see how the boys
are conditioned though. 14 year old boys begging to be whupped,
isn't usual. Some times you will read in a story or write a
story with a boy begging for a whupping, instead of restriction
and the comments you receive is that isn't realistic, A
teenager wouldn't do that. Under the right condition, yes they
would.
I was a little confused with you saying, "I put them one at a
time" And then "They had one arm around the other." At first I
thought you were saying you whupped each boy individually but
after reading it over a couple times, I understand they were
side by side, along the massage table holding on to the boy
beside them, so all four got it at the same time. I actually
like that for a couple reasons. Well they acted out together as
a group, so it is only fitting to be whupped for it as a group.
But I also like it, because it actually increases their bond for
each other. Being punished together will do that. You are
going through something as a group, not alone. The only time
that wouldn't make the bond closer is if it was only one of the
boys who actually did something wrong, and all of them was being
punished for it. The it could cause resentment and fracture the
bond.
Lastly, just a comment on the apology. I imagine that apology
was the worst for the boys. Taking the whupping was bad, but
they had asked for it and they knew they deserved it. But there
is just something difficult about having to apologize to anyone.
I know it is the most difficult thing for me to do, both back
when I was a boy and even still as a man. I believe it is
essential to do it, when you have wronged someone, but that
doesn't make it any easier. Admitting to being wrong is also
difficult, which has something to do with apologizing being even
more difficult. You didn't say what Mike's reaction was to them
apologizing. I am hoping he hugged each one, to show he fully
accepted their apology and still loved them. That there wasn't
any hard feelings left between them. There is something about a
hug that reaffirms friendship. One would think boys into their
teens would hate to be hugged but in certain situations, they
crave it. I know my nephews love to be hugged and if I don't
hug them first, they hug me. When they were teens I would hold
off hugging when they first came over, especially if they hade
friends with them, but they would come and hug me right off,
even in front of their friends. It got to where some of their
friends got hugs also. Any way. I hope Mike showed them there
are no hard feelings.
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Re: Summer '19 Spanking Report
By: Jack Date: July 1, 2019, 6:40 pm
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I worried about the way I had phrased that, but I hoped it was
clear. The thing is, the massage table is just over waist
height on me, so it's hard for boys who are several inches
shorter than six feet to get themselves into position over it,
especially when someone else is already there. What we actually
did was for me to take their hips in my hands and give them a
slight boost as they pushed themselves up, which allowed them to
get a hold on the handles on the far slide without slipping
around.
Mike tends to be a bit standoffish, and he doesn't much do
casual hugging. He did do that half handshake, half sidearm hug
that some guys seem to do with people with whom they're more
casual. I had already made sure the boys had had plenty of
hugs, and Mike was very gracious about accepting the apologies
and making sure he understood, just as he hoped they understood
why he couldn't tolerate the way they'd acted, but didn't feel
like it was his place to apply consequences. They agreed they
did.
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Re: Summer '19 Spanking Report
By: Jack Date: July 4, 2019, 10:37 am
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Curtis got his little rear end worn out Tuesday night.
Remember that this has been a pretty busy week. Saturday, we
went down to pick the younger boys up from camp. The only good
thing about it was, I was able to drive down separately, which
means one stop and it took a lot less time.
We picked them up and had them back late evening, but definitely
too late to start unpacking, even if they hadn't been pretty
exhausted.
For those of you who've not heard, Wil was stuck in DFW this
weekend. I had a text awaiting me when I woke Sunday morning.
On our way back into town, we'd had some brief showers, but the
lightning (and apparently the really bad weather) was north of
us. It shut down landings for a while. I'll skip all the
details, but her connecting flight was cancelled and she
couldn't reschule until Monday night! I went to hang out with
her.
Before I left, I told Connor and Curtis that they could do what
they wanted with the day (except go visit their cousins/nephews
who'd been at camp with them, since I knew they'd be busy).
However, I also made sure to stress that they were going to have
to unpack, and if they didn't get it done Sunday, they'd have to
do it Monday, when their friends were here.
I went to work Monday, but finished up faster than I'd expected,
so I went and picked up Wil, and we spent the afternoon
together, until I dropped her off to catch her flight. I think
it was a nice visit.
That timing made me fight rush hour traffic, so I was pretty
beat by the time I arrived home. I'll admit that I only gave
chores a cursory inspection. Neither Connor nor Curtis were
finished, but I felt it was a bit my fault. While Connor is 10,
that's an unusual job they'd never done before, and it was
pretty big, so I let it go. I should have at least gotten one
of the older, experienced boys to help, but I hadn't planned on
being gone all afternoon. Because of that, I gave them an
extension.
Monday night, we did break things down into smaller groups, and
I made an exact list of steps. I made it very clear that they
needed to finish before they would be allowed to play - they
weren't exactly in trouble, but they hadn't done what they'd
been told to do, so they weren't exactly not in trouble. I felt
this was a good compromise.
Because it's a holiday this week, and not only would I not be at
work, but we'd be closed, I didn't have the option of staying
home Tuesday. Instead, I got them both started, told them to
let someone knwo when they were ready to do laundry (Curtis
especially is too short to reach where we store the cleaning
material, even with a step ladder).
When I got home, everyone was playing. When I asked, everyone
was through. When I checked, Curtis had just stuffed a lot of
stuff - mainly dirty clothes - into his closet, beneath some
toys and shoes (not even especially well hidden).
The worst part is, everyone was here. While not all Curtis'
closest friends are relatives (there are tribe members like Bo
and Royce Tidwell, Ed Simpson, and a couple of kids from
school), his best friends and almost constant companions are his
nephews and cousins - Ollie, Paden, and Ryder. All three of
them were here that night.
We did go to my room to have the discussion, but everyone here
has been in that position, so I doubt there was much doubt as to
what the issue was.
To make a long story short, while I may be easy on Connor and
Curtis, Curtis had disobeyed me and lied about it, so he got a
double 2-down pattern with extra on the legs. It was with the
smallest Tailblazer, but he was bawling long before we finished.
I had intended to stand him in the corner to think about how
fraud and lying are the worst way to handle things, but he was
so miserable, we ended up cuddling and talking.
I think the worst thing for him was that he not only had to deal
with all that, but then he wasn't allowed to play until all his
chores - including the unpacking - were done the next morning.
Well, that's not quite true, since he did get to go play while
the washing machine ran, but Mike was in charge, and Mike used
the timer on his phone to make sure it was all done on a timely
basis.
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Re: Summer '19 Spanking Report
By: db105 Date: July 4, 2019, 2:42 pm
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[quote author=Jack link=topic=1307.msg13632#msg13632
date=1562254647]
I had intended to stand him in the corner to think about how
fraud and lying are the worst way to handle things, but he was
so miserable, we ended up cuddling and talking.
[/quote]
Aww :)
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Re: Summer '19 Spanking Report
By: Jack Date: July 18, 2019, 5:46 am
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I kept waiting for someone to get in trouble as we were getting
ready for vacation. A few people tested the limits, but everyone
seemed to have a good idea what a bad idea pushing too far would
be.
Someone was finally considerate enough to give me a butt to bust
Tuesday night.
I had reminded everyone that we'd be in a hotel and how they
needed to behave before we ever left on the trip, and again when
we were checking into our rooms. Despite that, Monday night, a
few people got called down and had to do a bit of corner time.
On Tuesday morning, I made things very clear about expected
behavior.
So, I'd been in Chris and Terry's suite, tucking in Connor and
Curtis (and Rhett and Ryder), and was headed back to my own,
when I heard a ruckus. A quick check revealed Kaden, Leif, and
Aidan Cavanaugh, and Logan (my cousin Ryan's 16 year old kid)
were in the hallway wrestling. There was a quick realization
that they'd screwed up before I marched them to the room they
shared. The discussion wasn't long, since they'd all been
warned numerous times. It was really just one of those
impulsive things that got out of hand. They were all about to
get cleaned up and go to sleep, so I had them all strip down. I
didn't have a good paddle with me for this age, so I took off my
belt. I started with Logan, then Aidan, with Leif last. This
was hardly the crime of the century, so I only gave five stripes
to each boy. I was holding their left arm, and this wasn't
serious enough for a real strap dance, but it was still kind of
fun. They all watched each other get it before any of them
started showering. The were all trying to take it well and be
nonchalant, but there was still a certain amount of jumping and
ouching, and the other boys - especially the ones who'd already
had their turn - were having a bit of trouble being serious, but
we got through it.
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Re: Summer '19 Spanking Report
By: Zyngaru Date: July 18, 2019, 8:16 am
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[quote author=Jack link=topic=1307.msg13945#msg13945
date=1563446762]
A quick check revealed Kaden, Leif, and Aidan Cavanaugh, and
Logan (my cousin Ryan's 16 year old kid) were in the hallway
wrestling.
I started with Logan, then Aidan, with Leif last.
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Probably just an oversight, because you are wore out with your
fun packed vacation, but what about Kaden? He is listed with
the wrestlers, but not listed with the spankee's?
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Re: Summer '19 Spanking Report
By: Adric Date: July 18, 2019, 10:39 am
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On several occasions I remember shrieking children repeatedly
running the length of the hotel hall until well past what should
have been their bedtimes. Amazing how so few children can ruin
an entire floor of a hotel. Good job taking advantage of the
opportunity, Jack. I feel sure there were other hotel guests
(invisible in their rooms) who appreciated your intervention.
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