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       20 March 2019 - With Benefits
       By: Jack Date: March 20, 2019, 4:51 pm
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       While I've been checking in almost every day, it's been a while
       since I posted anywhere but BOTD.  There is an ongoing situation
       which I thought was important enough that I needed to mention
       it.  I've known about this since this Sunday just past
       (3/17/19), and I mentioned it in chat Monday, so I thought I
       should get it shared here.
       Bridgette and PJ are pregnant.
       I've known for a while that they were friends.  They kept saying
       they weren't really dating, but they were doing stuff one would
       normally do on a date together.  As far as I knew, neither of
       them was interested in a relationship.  Well, it turns out that
       they were friends, but 'with benefits', as they say.
       I believe Bridgette said she's expecting about 14 Oct.
       Neither one of them is interested in considering an abortion for
       various reasons.  The 'm-word' has come up, but I'm not sure how
       enthusiastic either of them is about it.  They have both
       discussed one of them keeping it, trying to keep it together, or
       giving it up for adoption.
       Now, let's be straight that the two of them do seem to be very
       good friends; and that they have talked about marriage.  That's
       why they told me about this.  My honest advice was that a
       married couple HAS to be friends for things to really work, but
       that friendship on it's own is not enough to make a marriage,
       unless both people want that.  The thing is, Bridgette seems to
       not be interested in getting married because her relationship
       with her boys dad went south pretty badly and the divorce sounds
       pretty awful.  With PJ, I think he wants to get married, but he
       also wants a chance to be independent and on his own first.
       My recommendation after the three of us had talked for a while
       was that, if they're really considering getting married, see a
       councilor first - decide if they're even compatible and if they
       have a pretty legitimate chance of working as a couple.  If that
       can't be hashed out, trying it would just make things worse.  If
       that does sound like it might work, then they can decide if
       that's what they want to do.
       None of the boys know yet.  PJ and Bridgette would like to have
       an idea what they're going to do before they mention it.  They
       have their first session with a councilor next week, and they
       plan on talking with him about how and what to tell the boys.
       In the meantime, I have a six bedroom duplex (three on each side
       - a master and two regular).  It's currently unoccupied because
       the last tenants on one side... Well, let's just say 'lost their
       security deposit, insurance adjusters, lawsuit' and let you
       imagine the rest.  Without Tina to handle these details, things
       lagged a bit, and I waited for the other side to be emptied.
       Mr. Mintz's crew is handling the repairs, but they are working
       on the outside right now (roof was damaged).  I went and looked
       at it today, and we can add a door or two which would make it
       able to be used as one or two.  I could let PJ and Bridgette
       move in there, where they could live together while each having
       their own room.  I've got someone checking into the alterations
       that will be required to see when it could be done, and I'm
       probably going to suggest that to them this weekend, so they can
       talk it over with their councilor.
       #Post#: 12134--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 20 March 2019 - With Benefits
       By: db105 Date: March 20, 2019, 10:09 pm
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       Well, congratulations! I agree, though, that there's something
       more needed for a marriage to be successful than just friendship
       or even a child in common. Let's see how it goes.
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       Re: 20 March 2019 - With Benefits
       By: kalico Date: March 21, 2019, 9:10 am
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       Congratulations
       I agree you need more than friendship as I learned that the hard
       way....I think you gave them very good advice and glad the are
       working on it...
       I hope counseling helps them and that it all works for the best
       in whatever that outcome maybe..
       Thanks for the update jack
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       Re: 20 March 2019 - With Benefits
       By: Zyngaru Date: March 22, 2019, 10:28 am
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       I really don't know what makes a successful marriage.  I never
       married.  Never even came close to it.  I have seen what I
       thought were perfect marriages fall apart and seen what I
       thought were horrible marriage last until death do us part.  So
       I haven't a clue.
       I do wish PJ and Bridgette the best.  I only advice not to rush
       into anything and not to make decisions on what they think
       others believe to be right.  Do what is right for themselves and
       the new little life that is coming into the world.
       #Post#: 13047--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 20 March 2019 - With Benefits
       By: Jack Date: May 25, 2019, 5:29 pm
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       I wanted to update this, since i mentioned in chat today.
       PJ and Bridgette are moving in together, but it's into a duplex.
       Each side has three bedrooms - a master and two regulars.  As I
       said earlier, it needed a lot of work, so we redid a few things,
       so the two duplexes connect without having to go outside.
       Yes, that means they are keeping the child (another boy, by the
       way).  They did tell the boys.  There were, as you can imagine,
       a lot of questions.
       There are also some hard feelings.
       With six bedrooms, each adult will have their own master
       bedroom, one bedroom is going to be set up as a nursery, and
       that's three bedrooms for five boys.  Remember, the five of them
       currently share two bedrooms in separate apartments.  As a
       reminder, Ryan Tucker is 14, Jake is 13, Kelly is 14, Dylan is
       13, and Brennan is 11.  There was a lot of.... spirited
       discussion about who should get the room to themselves (one
       suggestion was the two older boys each get their own room, and
       the younger three share one).  There were also some hurt
       feelings, some strong words, and all five boys ended up with
       sore bottoms.  I think we ended up with Ryan Tucker and Jake
       sharing a room, Kelly and Dylan sharing a room, and the two
       smallest bedrooms are going to go to Brennan and the nursery.
       It's not ideal, but it seems the best answer.
       This is a bit further away than the apartments where they live
       now, but not much further, and the boys will be able to ride
       their bikes back and forth, except in extremely hot or bad
       weather, and it's close enough picking them up and dropping them
       off won't be a real problem anyway.
       Marriage is still under discussion, and hasn't been settled
       either way yet.  Calling me 'popop' or grandpa has been floated,
       but I'm not sure how serious they were about it (especially
       since the Henderson boys new 'brothers' call me dad!).
       #Post#: 13070--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 20 March 2019 - With Benefits
       By: db105 Date: May 26, 2019, 4:20 pm
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       Woah! A mass spanking. And in the end, the solo room went to the
       youngest boy! Kind of unexpected.
       Who did the spankings? PJ for Ryan and Jake and Bridgette for
       the others?
       #Post#: 13077--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 20 March 2019 - With Benefits
       By: Jack Date: May 27, 2019, 4:50 am
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       [quote author=db105 link=topic=1195.msg13070#msg13070
       date=1558905609]
       Who did the spankings? PJ for Ryan and Jake and Bridgette for
       the others?
       [/quote]
       I believe that PJ handled the spankings for everybody, though i
       think it was more 'paddlings' than spankings, with each boy
       standing outside the door, awaiting his turn, from youngest to
       oldest.
       #Post#: 13083--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 20 March 2019 - With Benefits
       By: kalico Date: May 27, 2019, 1:06 pm
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       Aww Pjs arm is gonna be getting quite the work out it seems as
       this was just a sample to the beginning....lol
       I’m happy they figured everything out for now anyway and I with
       them all the luck and I hope everything works out for them
       all...,
       Hugs kal
       #Post#: 13085--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 20 March 2019 - With Benefits
       By: Jack Date: May 27, 2019, 4:58 pm
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       [quote author=kalico link=topic=1195.msg13083#msg13083
       date=1558980401]
       Aww Pjs arm is gonna be getting quite the work out it seems as
       this was just a sample to the beginning....lol
       [/quote]
       I'm pretty sure this falls under the auspice of testing/pushing
       the limits.  On the other hand, remember that all four of the
       older boys are at least early adolescent, so Bridgette was
       getting less and less comfortable with using any type of CP for
       her older two.  PJ has been talking about using non-spanking
       methods more with Ryan Tucker and Jake, so we'll see how it
       goes.
       I had all five boys here this weekend, and we talked about
       things for a bit.  They're not moving until next weekend (when
       school's over), and I suggested that, if they think it's such a
       problem, why not switch, so they're sharing rooms by age,
       instead of with their brothers.  Oh, and remember that Brennan
       is a couple of years younger than everyone else, so not having
       him constantly under foot is one thing upon which all the older
       boys more or less agree.
       #Post#: 13089--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 20 March 2019 - With Benefits
       By: Zyngaru Date: May 28, 2019, 11:54 am
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       [quote author=Jack link=topic=1195.msg13085#msg13085
       date=1558994330]
       Oh, and remember that Brennan is a couple of years younger
       than everyone else, so not having him constantly under foot is
       one thing upon which all the older boys more or less agree.
       [/quote]
       Little brothers can be a lot of fun, but they can also be a
       pest.  So definite benefit to have little bro in another
       bedroom.  I would also suggest that the rule of thumb is, no
       going into any other brothers bedroom unless invited.
       Now one of the great benefits of having a little brother:
       Sometimes a teenager wants to do something that is way beneath
       his age bracket.  He just wants to act like a little boy for
       awhile.  Having a little brother, gives a teenager, a way to put
       it all off on the lil bro, and keep his teenager cred. and still
       be able to act like a little kid.
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