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       #Post#: 937--------------------------------------------------
       Lincoln Tidwell (10)
       By: Jack Date: October 18, 2017, 4:33 pm
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       The four oldest Tidwell boys arrived Sunday, while a couple of
       maiden aunts care for the girls and younger boys, while their
       Mom is in the hospital.  Lincoln is the youngest of those four
       boys.
       While his big brothers are all big and well-developed for their
       ages, that's not effected Linc yet, and he's staying in the
       littles' bedroom with Curtis and Connor.  He's a year younger,
       but he's used to having younger siblings, and the three of them
       have been friends for a while now.  He's also happy to join in
       our bedtime reading (we're reading the Books of the Chrestomancy
       by  Dianne Wynne Jones right now).
       Sunday night, I had trouble getting Linc to bed.  I put it down
       to a few things.  First was probably just the different
       situation.  I know they aren't quite as strict about bedtime as
       I am (only the boys go to school, so the other kids don't have
       to be as mobile in the morning; hence, less competition for
       everything), so I thought that might be part of the problem.
       Finally, one of the reasons friends rarely sleep over during the
       week is because it's harder for them to go to bed.
       I might not have been so upset over it, but I had trouble
       getting all three of them up Monday morning, so he and I had a
       little talk.  And then the same things were still happening
       Monday, so I gave him a warning, which was enough to get him
       quiet.
       Then last night, some of the same things started happening
       again, so when I had Connor an Curtis tucked in, I picked
       Lincoln up, and he and I went to my office.
       In my office, I put him down in front of me, sat, made sure he
       remembered that we'd talked twice about this, then took his
       briefs off, and put him over my lap.
       Instead of just spanking, I had a punctuated discussion with
       him.
       Jack: "Did I tell you that, when I say bedtime, you get in bed?"
       Smack.
       Linc: "Yessir."
       Jack: "Yes, I did."
       Smack.
       Repeat as needed.
       I wasn't exhaustive or smacking too hard, but I got some yelps
       and sobbing from him before I quit.  When I let him up, his
       cheeks were a bit damp, and he was shedding a few tears, but he
       wasn't crying hard.
       "So I told you exactly what to do, didn't I?"
       "Yessir."
       "Did you do it?"
       "Nosir."
       "Is that disobeying?"
       "Yessir."
       "What happens to boys who disobey?"
       "They get spanked," he replied with a hard sob.
       I got the small Tailblazer and held it up to another harsh sob.
       We decided that he hadn't had a real spanking yet, but that
       maybe I'd made enough of an impression that he didn't need one.
       Basically tonight is his last chance.  I also pointed out
       exactly what I want done if he doesn't want a spanking, and I'll
       remind him after dinner, so it shouldn't be too hard for him to
       avoid it, and it will make the next couple of mornings much
       better (actually, C&C weren't a problem this morning, since they
       were both asleep by the time we got Lincoln back to their
       bedroom.  I did stay with Linc and rub his back until he fell
       asleep, so he was easier to wake this morning than he has been -
       or maybe he's just getting used to our routine now.
       #Post#: 939--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lincoln Tidwell
       By: Zyngaru Date: October 18, 2017, 5:11 pm
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       [quote]I did stay with Linc and rub his back until he fell
       asleep, so he was easier to wake this morning than he has been -
       or maybe he's just getting used to our routine now.[/quote]
       That and since the other two boys were already asleep, there
       wasn't anyone to talk with after you left the room, so he might
       as well go to sleep.  It is a normal thing for boys to talk
       after going to bed until they drift off to sleep, but the
       problem with some boys, is as long as they are talking, they
       don't go to sleep.  It is enough stimulation to keep them awake.
       I so hope that Linc doesn't earn a for real spanking.  I so hope
       the hand spanking was enough to set him on the right track.
       #Post#: 942--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lincoln Tidwell
       By: Jack Date: October 18, 2017, 5:33 pm
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       [quote author=Zyngaru link=topic=109.msg939#msg939
       date=1508364698]It is a normal thing for boys to talk after
       going to bed until they drift off to sleep, but the problem with
       some boys, is as long as they are talking, they don't go to
       sleep. [/quote]
       That was a problem I had.  When friends slept over, I could stay
       awake talking, and they'd grow slower and more quiet in their
       answers, until I got nothing, and would finally go to sleep
       myself.  Then again, it takes me a while to fall asleep, even
       when I'm alone.  Lincoln isn't like that though, so it's
       probably something else.
       #Post#: 944--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lincoln Tidwell
       By: Zyngaru Date: October 18, 2017, 5:43 pm
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       [quote]Then again, it takes me a while to fall asleep, even when
       I'm alone. [/quote]
       I am the opposite.  Five minutes from the time I close my eyes I
       am in a deep sleep that nothing can wake me up from.
       I might have missed this from your first post.  Was Linc just
       not getting into bed when you told him it was bedtime?  That is
       a whole other issue.
       But if his problem is just not wanting to wake up in the
       mornings, then off to bed earlier each night until you find the
       bedtime that works for him.
       #Post#: 945--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lincoln Tidwell
       By: Jack Date: October 18, 2017, 6:13 pm
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       [quote author=Zyngaru link=topic=109.msg944#msg944
       date=1508366607]
       I might have missed this from your first post.  Was Linc just
       not getting into bed when you told him it was bedtime?
       [/quote]
       Amongst other things, yes.
       #Post#: 957--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lincoln Tidwell
       By: David M. Katz Date: October 19, 2017, 5:30 am
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       I suspect there will be improvement.   :)  For a few days
       anyway.
       Do you need to do another bedroom shuffle?
       #Post#: 961--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lincoln Tidwell
       By: Zyngaru Date: October 19, 2017, 9:46 am
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       [quote author=David M. Katz link=topic=109.msg957#msg957
       date=1508409032]
       I suspect there will be improvement.   :)  For a few days
       anyway.
       Do you need to do another bedroom shuffle?
       [/quote]
       I was going to go with Dave here.  But Linc being 9, he is
       probably already in the youngest bedroom already.  If not, then
       step him back to 6 and 7 year olds, letting him know why he is
       being set back, because of his immaturity in going to bed when
       told.
       But I am thinking, he is already in the youngest bedroom, so a
       set back isn't really an option.
       He might be needing a maintenance spanking once a week to remind
       him that bedtime means bedtime.  I have never experienced
       maintenance spankings and am not sure I even agree with them,
       but it might be something to consider.
       #Post#: 969--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lincoln Tidwell
       By: Jack Date: October 19, 2017, 1:21 pm
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       Yes, it says in the initial post that he's in the youngest
       bedroom.
       No bedroom shuffle - if he continues to cause problems, he'll
       move out to the fort, where I can easily spank him as needed.  I
       think that the real problem is just him not being used to having
       younger brothers that have to be up at a certain time.  I also
       think I made a firm enough impression on him, because when I
       told him to hop in bed and stay quiet, we had no problem.
       While maintenance spankings can be a fun idea in fantasy, I have
       never done them, and never would.
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