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       Foreign Guests - Environmentalism
       By: Generic Date: April 2, 2024, 9:40 am
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       I'm going to preface this a little bit in that I don't want
       people taking it personally, because it's far from it. It's more
       observational of a difference between views. I have no way to
       knowing how you personally deal with it, or if you deal with
       foreign travellers at all. And of course what your city does in
       regards to enviromentalism.
       What I will say is that where I live we are required to recycle
       and compost. We have 3 different bins and we can be fined for
       not composting. Also, the city where I live has specific rules
       for restaurants on what they can and can't use and give out as
       well.
       Just came back from a trip and I was sort of shocked at how much
       plastic and disposables were still being used. The only reusable
       at breakfast were the mugs. The plates and cutlery were plastic.
       Yes, I admit it wasn't a B&B, the big city we went for isn't a
       place where you find a B&B and the other place we stayed at was
       about the EV charger that was available. But still, it's likely
       less expensive in the long run to use plates, cutlery
       (silverware if you prefer), glassed and mugs than all that
       paper.
       But even if you are using paper... paper plates and the leftover
       food are compost to many of us now, not trash, not garbage.
       Especially in a city that commercially composts... even meat,
       bones, anything organic will become rich soil in a few weeks.
       Where I live, the restaurants are no longer allowed to use
       styrofoam, it's completely unrecyclable. They aren't allowed to
       give you plastic cutlery. Instead you generally get either
       compostable which is pressed from some starch, but more often
       than not now, you get bamboo wood cutlery. Goes right into the
       compost. The tops of the coffee cups are made from a compostable
       paper. The plates, the bags and some restaurants use aluminum,
       which is 100% recyclable... you don't even have to wash it. It
       goes right into the recycling to be re-smelted.
       So, why am I saying this? Because while all those disposable
       items look normal to you, we have slowly been changing our
       habits to save the planet elsewhere and all these things look
       very different to those of us from other places. We have 2 or 3
       garbage cans (waste, recycling and compost) and we don't expect
       to see so much waste/garbage as there was in the past. Heck, the
       plastic straw (with one exception) isn't even legal here
       anymore.
       For the B&B, we have dispensers for shampoo, conditioner, shower
       gel and body conditioner (actually truth be told, we also have
       one for mouthwash, but that's my own bugaboo). We use plates and
       cutlery. For the rooms, they have either real glass, or silicone
       reusable glasses.
       For the bathrooms, we used to use the paper glasses. Guests went
       through SO many. Compostable, but they put them in the garbage
       so we would have to pick them out to compost. We switched to
       silicone... a few of those "walked" and so we replaced them with
       collapsible silicone cups. Those work great and stay in house.
       We just don't give them the covers! We wash them and leave them
       upside down. They are strong enough for bathroom use, but too
       weak to walk out of the bathroom with them. Bonus... if they
       drop them, they don't break... but more importantly, they don't
       chip the sink! Something like...
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       The hardest time we have is explaining to guests to bring down
       their leftovers for us to deal with. Had one lady last fall
       leave us a giant bag of coffee grounds! Should have never ended
       up in a refill... in a month it would have been part of the food
       cycle for a farmer to use to grow food.
       Anyway, I figured I would mention this. For one, I think we
       should have a bit of stewardship. Let others see that it can be
       done. But also, in case you deal with a lot of foreign guests
       that they may view certain practices differently and wasteful.
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       Re: Foreign Guests - Environmentalism
       By: gillumhouse Date: April 2, 2024, 2:36 pm
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       Contrary to the opinion of my original insurance man, people DO
       come to Shinnston AMD from all over the world. I use chargers
       (yes, they are plastic but I use them until they get ugly),
       china and Fostoria goblets, and silver plate cutlery and cloth
       napkins. Over and above the elegance of using these, it costs a
       LOT less to just (UGH!) wash dishes and do the laundry.
       Even when I have had guests for a few days, I put out less trash
       than my neighbors every week. Another advantage of buying a pig
       and having a deer harvested is I do not have all that packaging
       in my trash same goes for baking "from scratch". I SO use
       zip-lock bags for the sausage when I make it, but for years now,
       I have used 6x6 pastry boxes for the "care packages" guests
       leave with. I do have a composter. I do not go bananas about it,
       but I do conserve. (Newspapers get saved for my potter - he
       wraps his pottery in newspaper for shipping.
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       Re: Foreign Guests - Environmentalism
       By: JimBoone Date: April 3, 2024, 7:33 am
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       Requirements are not nearly as strict here in NC but we do try.
       Each guest room has a recycle can and a sign as to what IS and
       IS NOT to be recycled. We can manage paper, plastic, and metal,
       cut our trash flow by half but adds the job of carrying off the
       recycled materials ourselves.
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