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       #Post#: 357--------------------------------------------------
       Re: General Wrestling Thread
       By: chris_K Date: June 18, 2012, 6:16 pm
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       Can you really say that the Miz isn't one of the top heels in
       the WWE though?  Even with his losing streak, it doesn't matter,
       he always finds ways to stay relevant, so he is in no way
       undeserving of that push.  You can't keep Miz down, not even by
       forcing him to job to everybody on the roster.
       #Post#: 358--------------------------------------------------
       Re: General Wrestling Thread
       By: Hawkeye Date: June 18, 2012, 7:26 pm
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       Miz is one of the top heels in the company. Partially because of
       how hard he works, partially because he's actually decent on the
       mic. However, the biggest reason for Miz being one of the top
       heels is that all of the others are gone.
       Let's look at some other top heels recently.
       Randy Orton - Turned Face
       CM Punk - Turned Face
       HHH - Turned Face
       Christian - Turned Face
       
       Sheamus - Turned Face
       Mark Henry - Injured
       ADR - Injured
       Barrett - Injured.
       Big Show - heh.
       
       Ziggler - Far superior to the miz in every way, except that he
       never got the big push.
       The Miz is a top heel in the WWE simply through process of
       elimination.
       #Post#: 362--------------------------------------------------
       Re: General Wrestling Thread
       By: Kurda Smith Date: June 18, 2012, 8:23 pm
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       [quote author=Panda link=topic=32.msg358#msg358 date=1340065600]
       The Miz is a top heel in the WWE simply through process of
       elimination.[/quote]
       #Post#: 363--------------------------------------------------
       Re: General Wrestling Thread
       By: chris_K Date: June 18, 2012, 8:34 pm
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       1. ADR is nowhere near Miz's level.  I cannot stand him
       whatsoever.
       2. Hunter turned far before Miz was even relevant and same with
       Orton is some regards.
       3. Miz has stronger victories over Christian, Barrett, Sheamus,
       and Ziggler (which you noted)
       4. Big Show is a good giant but he's so back and forth its like,
       why should I even bother caring?  5. Henry was a good heel but
       at the time of Miz's run at the time as Henry's face run (I
       could easily be wrong I'm a little stoned)
       6. Punk always seemed to play second fiddle heel on Smackdown
       and Raw despite being the more talented, as to where when Miz
       was main eventing Raw, he was ACTUALLY main eventing it, with
       the headliners Orton and Cena.
       Sorry for the number order, just not sober enough to actually
       make it all into one paragraph
       #Post#: 367--------------------------------------------------
       Re: General Wrestling Thread
       By: Hawkeye Date: June 18, 2012, 10:29 pm
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       I never said these people deserved to be the top heels, just
       that they were. All I'm saying is that Miz rose to the top
       purely because there was no one else up there.
       #Post#: 370--------------------------------------------------
       Re: General Wrestling Thread
       By: chris_K Date: June 19, 2012, 2:24 am
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       The WWE can push anybody to the top of the card, its not that
       hard, Miz was just had the most momentum and it helped his push
       that he kept loads of heat.
       #Post#: 374--------------------------------------------------
       Re: General Wrestling Thread
       By: SCITM501 Date: June 19, 2012, 4:24 am
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       If Ziggler isn't a World Champ by the end of the year then fuck
       WWE.
       #Post#: 378--------------------------------------------------
       Re: General Wrestling Thread
       By: chris_K Date: June 19, 2012, 10:27 am
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       [quote author=Talk of the Town link=topic=32.msg374#msg374
       date=1340097878]
       If Ziggler isn't a World Champ (or won the money in the bank
       briefcase) by the end of the year then **** WWE.
       [/quote]
       Fixed it for you.
       #Post#: 387--------------------------------------------------
       Re: General Wrestling Thread
       By: Hawkeye Date: June 19, 2012, 5:59 pm
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       Meh, I figure Ziggler's career will follow that of the man he
       was a Copy-Pasta of. A career of nothing but MotN's, big moments
       and legendary feuds but no Big Gold Belt to seal the deal.
       #Post#: 390--------------------------------------------------
       Re: General Wrestling Thread
       By: Sean Date: June 20, 2012, 12:18 am
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       Miz slander and now Ziggler slander?
       God damn you, Panda.
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