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       #Post#: 9217--------------------------------------------------
       Survivor Series prediction thread.
       By: Thurl Date: November 20, 2015, 10:50 pm
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       I wanted to do this with the last WWE ppv and never got around
       to it. so I am doing it for this one. Remember these are my
       picks and opinions. Feel free to post your own underneath...
       Also, I am stealing Mr. Tito's style cause its nice.
       Also, note that I did not watch this week's smackdown so am
       going off what they have on WWE.com as a final card.
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       I cant talk about this one with out discussing the segment that
       ended RAW. What should have been a milestone for the Women's
       division of being the first time in what.. ever? Maybe. What
       should have been a big moment for the women's division To close
       out Monday Night Raw, turned into a black eye for WWE as a whole
       when they decided to write Page to say what she did about Reid
       Flair. From what I gather, it was a mutual call between
       Charlotte and WWE Creative, and ultimately Vince McMahon, whom,
       after the segment was pulled, put it back at the eleventh hour.
       It was poor taste for writing and as its been reported members
       of WWE Creative weren't comfortable with it.
       This isn't the first time WWE has gone personal mind you. They
       did do the whole Eddie is in Hell bit with Orton, Paul Bearers
       Ashes being dumped by Punk, and CM Punk's family drinking
       issues. Not to mention Katie Vick. The difference between those
       and this segment is that WWE forewarned people of what was going
       on. They failed to do that with Reids Mother and Ric Flair
       himself. I get not informing the mom, there would be no way to
       make her ok with it. Ric on the other hand would understand that
       the segment was designed to sew heat, and make the WWE Universe
       invest there emotion into the match, which was certainly
       accomplished. But its a lack of respect to Ric Flair not to warn
       him of the segment, and I think he more upset about that than
       that they did it. Ric Flair is a Hall of Famer, and been in the
       business for 40-50 years. If there was anyone ever as big as
       Hulk Hogan in the business its Naitch. So there is no excuse for
       that disrespect. Neither from Vince,  and Triple H, or his own
       daughter who could have called to warn him. But since Vince made
       the call after creative pulled the line from the segment, it
       lies with him, and I am glad WWE released their statement taking
       responsibility.
       Unfortunately, WWE will probably do something else just as
       classless as this in the future. Till then how about the match
       for the Diva's title?
       Divas Title: Charlotte (c) vs. Paige
       WHO I THINK SHOULD WIN: Charlotte. After Raw I think the
       momentum is with her, and to show apologies from the family they
       should remove the cuffs on her talent and really let her go and
       show what she can do. I think a clean win with authority is in
       order.
       WHO WILL BE BOOKED TO WIN: Still going with Charlotte. Its
       really either woman's game, but I think after the negative
       press, and attention, WWE will have to distance them self from
       the situation by having Paige chase the title some more. It
       won't hurt page to hold her off from winning the title by one
       pay per view anyways.
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       WWE Title Semi-Final: Roman Reigns vs. Alberto Del Rio
       I really think this one is a waste of the US title. So is Zeb
       for that matter. The midcard is pretty neutered by the WWE
       Heavyweight title tournament. But since Rollins's injury caught
       WWE with its proverbial pants down, they were forced to do
       something...
       WHO I THINK SHOULD WIN: Roman Reigns. It was the plan all along
       if Rollins hadn't gotten injured so I don't think that is
       changing. Plus Vince is still high on Reigns.
       WHO WILL BE BOOKED TO WIN: Still going with Reigns here. Del Rio
       has been cooled off by Zeb. They need to fix that before making
       him top champ again. He is not any more over than he was before
       he left thanks to bad writing.
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       WWE Title Semi-Final: Kevin Owens vs. Dean Ambrose
       I would be more in to this match if WWE made it more interesting
       by putting the IC title on the line. Another waste of champ here
       otherwise.
       WHO I THINK SHOULD WIN: Dean Ambrose. I think it would be a big
       moment for Survivor Series if the IC title was put on the line
       and Ambrose went on to win only to lose to Roman later, and have
       them both raise titles at the end of the night, or when there
       match is done, But I then there is Taker on the card, could be
       overshadowed.
       WHO WILL WIN: Owens, just to give the final a Heel vs face
       dynamic.
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       WWE Title Finals: Roman Reigns vs. Kevin Owens
       Heel vs. babyface match-up. Classic dynamic.
       WHO SHOULD WIN: Roman Reigns. Would rather it be Cesaro in this
       match. WWE should have booked him to come from the opposite side
       of the brackets and that match should have been the final in the
       tournament. However, I am of the opinion at this point that WWE
       is saving Cesaro to be the 2016 Royal Rumble winner, Its his
       year to win the rumble. It's time. He's earned it.
       WHO WILL BE BOOKED TO WIN: Reigns. Owens is too green. Vince has
       been waiting for a year and a half to put the big title on Roman
       and won't wait any longer. Any other outcome and Shaemus steals
       the title via Money In the Bank briefcase. Though I can see him
       try to pull a Rollins with Triple H cheering him on, and Roman
       thwarting it this time and still winning the Championship.
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       Kane/Undertaker vs. Wyatt Family
       I am hearing this will be the Brothers vs Bray and Braun
       Stroman. I don't really care for that booking, would rather have
       Harper or Big Red in the match instead of Stroman. I wasn't sure
       who Taker and Kane would get if they made it a standard Survivor
       series match. Mankind would have been great in his prime, but
       Mick is done with wrestling at this point. Big Show and Mark
       Henry would have worked, kinda. Too much animosity with Kane/
       Taker vs everyone for anything to work.
       WHO I THINK SHOULD WIN: Bray Wyatt and Stroman. Gotta keep the
       big man looking tough until at least the rumble to make him look
       imposing for that match.
       WHO WILL BE BOOKED TO WIN WIN: Undertaker and Kane... Its 25
       years of Taker night, need I say more? My fear is that because
       of this Bray takes the pin and is creatively damaged in the
       process, just to keep Stroman looking good.
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       Tyler Breeze vs Dolph Ziggler.
       I think this one is booked as the pre show match. That or its
       just Filler.
       WHO I THINK SHOULD WIN/WHO WILL BE BOOKED TO WIN: Ziggler. All
       the way. JoMo 2.0 is too new and Ziggler is way way overdue for
       a pay per view win. I hope this closes that last remnant of the
       Rusev/Lana Storyline. Tired of it.
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       Rumored Traditional 5 on 5 Survivor Series Match
       ? ? ? ? ? vs ? ? ? ? ? ?
       Well Who is left? The Tag team champions of course. and Usos, so
       here is what I think will be booked if anything:
       Usos, Cesaro, Ryback and Neville vs New Day, Stardust and King
       Barret or Mark Henry
       WHO I THINK SHOULD WIN/WHO WILL BE BOOKED TO WIN: There is zero
       hype here. I call for the faces to win. Pointless last minute
       match. Pre show spot probably.
       As for what order for the matches?
       Traditional 5-on-5 Survivor Series Elimination Match
       TBA vs. TBA
       Tyler Breeze vs. Dolph Ziggler
       Tournament Semi-Finals to Crown a New WWE World Heavyweight
       Champion
       WWE Intercontinental Champion Kevin Owens vs. Dean Ambrose
       WWE Divas Title Match
       Paige vs. Charlotte
       Tournament Semi-Finals to Crown a New WWE World Heavyweight
       Champion
       Roman Reigns vs. WWE United States Champion Alberto Del Rio
       Tournament Finals to Crown a New WWE World Heavyweight Champion
       Kevin Owens or Dean Ambrose vs. Roman Reigns or Alberto Del Rio
       The Undertaker and Kane vs. Two Members of The Wyatt Family
       Yeah.. that sounds good.
       #Post#: 9224--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Survivor Series prediction thread.
       By: Thurl Date: November 22, 2015, 10:43 pm
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       Lets look at how I did...
       Traditional 5-on-5 Survivor Series Elimination Match
       Goldust, Titus O'Neil, Neville & The Dudley Boyz def. The Miz,
       Bo Dallas, Stardust & The Ascension
       Winners: The Faces
       MY SCORE: I am only taking .5 a point. here as I got Neville
       right, and the faces winning.
       Tournament Semi Finals to Crown a New WWE World Heavyweight
       Champion
       Roman Reigns vs Alberto Del Rio
       Winner Reigns
       Full points, I nailed this one on the head.
       Tournament Semi-Finals to Crown a New WWE World Heavyweight
       Champion
       WWE Intercontinental Champion Kevin Owens vs. Dean Ambrose
       Winner: Ambrose
       My Score: No points. I expected Owens to win. My Bad.
       Traditional 5-on-5 Survivor Series Elimination Match
       Ryback, The Usos & The Lucha Dragons vs The New Day, Sheamus &
       King Barrett
       Winners: Faces
       My Score: I am taking .75 points here as I got Usos, Newday,
       Ryback, Barrett and faces winning. Unexpected match but it was
       close to my prediction. Would have been better with Cesaro.
       Whole PPV would have been.
       WWE Divas Title Match
       Paige vs. Charlotte
       Winner: Charlotte
       My score: Full Points. Go me.
       Tyler Breeze vs. Dolph Ziggler
       Winner: Breeze
       My Score: No points. WWE fail with Breeze winning this one.
       Whose cock does Ziggler have to suck to get some love around
       there
       The Undertaker and Kane vs. Two Members of The Wyatt Family
       Winners: Brothers of Destruction
       My Score: Full Points. Elementary here really. With Bray running
       they can carry the storyline longer and I like that.
       Tournament Finals to Crown a New WWE World Heavyweight Champion
       Roman Reigns vs. Dean Ambrose
       Winner: Reigns
       My Score: .5 points. Reigns did win, but I didn't predict
       Ambrose nor did I have much faith in a Sheamus cash in. I should
       have known better.
       As for match order, I failed all over the place and didn't
       suspect the second 5 on 5 Survivor Series match
       Final Score: 5 out of 8 giving my self 1 full point per match
       for each correct prediction, or less if I was partially correct.
       Most talk I saw were people complaining about how obvious the
       card was. Why didn't seem that way for me? I did get a little
       bit lucky with the surprise matches.
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