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       #Post#: 7245--------------------------------------------------
       Another idea to spur membership: monetary prizes
   DIR By: LimitedWard
       Date: May 6, 2013, 4:59 pm
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       Ok so you may think I'm crazy to suggest this, but hear me out.
       So far we have 10 teams (5 in each division) with an average of
       about 8 players per team. If we had each member of every team
       place a $5 ante at the beginning of each season, that would lead
       to a total of $400 in prize money. Take out $32 to help pay for
       web-based expenses and split the remaining amount for each
       division, and that would lead to a $184 prize for the first
       place finishers in each division (about $23 per person or a $18
       net gain). As the league expands, that prize amount would
       increase.
       FAQ:
       Q: Why would this be any useful?
       A: Having a monetary prize for being on the winning team would
       increase attendance in games because there is something cool to
       be gained instead of simply having bragging rights. It would
       also lure more non-members into wanting to join.
       Q: Why would this be any useful?
       A: Having a monetary prize for being on the winning team would
       increase attendance in games because there is something cool to
       be gained instead of simply having bragging rights. It would
       also lure more non-members into wanting to join.
       Q: What would the extra money be used for?
       A: Any money not appropriated as prize money would be used to
       help pay for professional online services such as a website and
       potentially a Teamspeak/Ventrilo server.
       Q: Who would be required to pay? Would players not on a team be
       required?
       A: Only members of a team that exists for the coming season
       would be required to pay. Players not on any team (free agents)
       would not be required to pay.
       Q: If a player on a team fails to pay ante for that season,
       would his/her team be penalized?
       A: Teams would only be penalized in so far as that player would
       not be able to play in games until the payment is met.
       Q: If a player is on a team but fails to pay ante, is he/she
       still eligible for receiving prize money?
       A: No.
       Q: How would money be sent?
       A: We could use Paypal to ensure secure transfer of money.
       Q: Who would manage the money each season?
       A: A league treasurer would need to elected to the league. I
       suppose I could do it if we decided to go along with this plan
       seeing as I've had some experience with managing money for a
       gaming organization (I hosted a pay-to-play Minecraft server
       prior to founding this league).
       Q: What would be the refund policy?
       A: No refunds would be allowed under any circumstances. This is
       to ensure that players of the losing teams do not decide to
       refund their money just before the winning teams are decided.
       #Post#: 7248--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Another idea to spur membership: monetary prizes
   DIR By: Lord of Fail
       Date: May 6, 2013, 5:45 pm
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       i really dont want to bring money into this ...
       i feel that it would cause a lot more rage and make things less
       enjoyable
       For example: the winning team would probably rub it in the other
       team's faces.
       I try to promote a fun experience for all players, not just
       those who can pay to play
       #Post#: 7253--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Another idea to spur membership: monetary prizes
   DIR By: LimitedWard
       Date: May 6, 2013, 5:51 pm
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       --- Quote from: Lord of Fail link ---
       >
       > i really dont want to bring money into this ...
       > i feel that it would cause a lot more rage and make things
       less enjoyable
       > For example: the winning team would probably rub it in the
       other team's faces.
       > I try to promote a fun experience for all players, not just
       those who can pay to play
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The ante would be very small for each player. Plus I would
       imagine it to be more fun by playing for money rather than
       playing for bragging rights. It's just like playing poker with
       your friends: it's a lot more fun when you have real money on
       the line instead of plastic chips. The extra money would also
       help us to expand by paying for professional online services.
       #Post#: 7254--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Another idea to spur membership: monetary prizes
   DIR By: LimitedWard
       Date: May 6, 2013, 5:59 pm
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       --- Quote from: Lord of Fail link ---
       >
       > i really dont want to bring money into this ...
       > i feel that it would cause a lot more rage and make things
       less enjoyable
       > For example: the winning team would probably rub it in the
       other team's faces.
       > I try to promote a fun experience for all players, not just
       those who can pay to play
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       All in all, $5 is a very small loss making the overall risk
       minimal and the potential reward great for each player.
       #Post#: 7258--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Another idea to spur membership: monetary prizes
   DIR By: Lord of Fail
       Date: May 6, 2013, 7:25 pm
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       still, i dont think its a good idea to force payment
       something tells me that we would have very few people who would
       be able to pay
       #Post#: 7259--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Another idea to spur membership: monetary prizes
   DIR By: LimitedWard
       Date: May 6, 2013, 7:30 pm
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       --- Quote from: Lord of Fail link ---
       >
       > still, i dont think its a good idea to force payment
       >
       > something tells me that we would have very few people who
       would be able to pay
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Perhaps a donation system would be better then. We probably
       would not receive enough donations for any significant monetary
       prize, but at least we would be able to invest in better online
       services such as a real domain and host.
       #Post#: 7261--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Another idea to spur membership: monetary prizes
   DIR By: Cole72
       Date: May 6, 2013, 8:33 pm
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       Perhaps there should not be an award for every fuccking post you
       write and there would be an award to all donors, saying how much
       money they donated.
       In addition we can give +5 rep per dollar someone donates.
       I don't think we should pay to play in this league though.  A
       lot of people would probably not end up playing.
       #Post#: 7265--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Another idea to spur membership: monetary prizes
   DIR By: el jefe
       Date: May 6, 2013, 9:59 pm
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       Once again. 5v5 huge
       #Post#: 7294--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Another idea to spur membership: monetary prizes
   DIR By: blockade
       Date: May 8, 2013, 12:16 pm
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       hmm a donation system seems better than the pay to play
       suggestion, but a good idea though LW, prob a diff division
       consisting of a few teams doing that and a free to play
       division, but yea donation sounds better
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