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       #Post#: 3196--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What I sent to HAX about the OT ban
       By: ricksterps Date: August 19, 2021, 3:24 pm
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       [quote author=Lurknomore link=topic=84.msg3188#msg3188
       date=1629404162]
       Today is National Rickroll Day.
       [/quote] BP would say that I think that's everyday  :)
       #Post#: 3267--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What I sent to HAX about the OT ban
       By: kkt Date: August 19, 2021, 4:55 pm
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       [quote author=rickroll link=topic=84.msg3000#msg3000
       date=1629396009]
       [quote author=PalomaBlanca link=topic=84.msg2973#msg2973
       date=1629395243]
       [quote]
       I think in general comments sections are on the way out.  They
       are more of a chore and liability than they are worth and
       undermine the gravitas of the reporting in many cases.  The NYT
       keeps a really tight rein on comments with pre-publication
       censoring and monitoring, but it's labor-intensive and seems to
       be arbitrarily done by low-level workers.
       I don't see much difference between scrubbing them before they
       pop up or soon after; it's still a reminder that these are
       commercial enterprises that have zero obligation to provide a
       soapbox for random passersby.  We are free to take it or leave
       it.
       [/quote]
       Well, you may be right and comments may be on the way out....but
       I think the policy around them should be clear.  :)
       And as for scrubbing them?  I have an issue with the WaPo saying
       "Here are our guidelines", when in fact different guidelines
       exist that apparently go to post content and those are not made
       public.  When there are secret rules known only to moderators
       and staff, that's an ethical issue.
       And doing it "under the cover of darkness" is just an
       authoritarian rewriting of history.  It doesn't go down well.
       If there's an issue, tell people.
       [/quote]
       I think there was a major miscalculation but there ain't no
       unringing that bell.  I am glad to be a part of the Resistance
       ;D
       [/quote]
       [quote]But we who are still free will do
       all we can. We are organized.
       Underground, like everywhere else.[/quote]
       [size=12pt][b]- Casablanca
       #Post#: 3285--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What I sent to HAX about the OT ban
       By: kkt Date: August 19, 2021, 5:18 pm
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       [quote author=Skowronek link=topic=84.msg3180#msg3180
       date=1629403812]
       [quote author=GenuineKosherDill link=topic=84.msg2967#msg2967
       date=1629394755]
       [quote author=PalomaBlanca link=topic=84.msg2956#msg2956
       date=1629393942]
       First, Hey Rick!  Good to see you and I cheered your message to
       Hax!
       What concerns me is that the staff is massively purging the
       comments in Hax.  Not just a few, but to the tune of hundreds of
       deleted posts at the end of the day.  Tom first pointed out that
       over 500 posts were removed two days ago, and last night over
       600 posts were deleted at the end of the day.
       Tell me that 600+ people violated community guidelines by using
       profanity or were wildly OT and talked about dinner plans?  Not
       by a long shot.
       This seems like the WaPo is going in retroactively and deleting
       posts for content.   Anything they don't agree with, goes.  This
       is quite Orwellian for a paper whose masthead talks about
       democracy dying in darkness.  And who is deciding which posts
       have acceptable content, even if they don't violate the posted
       guidelines?   And why should the posted guidelines be a mirage,
       with the real rules known only to the staff?
       These massive deletions and cullings of posts are chilling to
       me.  Especially since they take place en masse.
       [/quote]
       I think in general comments sections are on the way out.  They
       are more of a chore and liability than they are worth and
       undermine the gravitas of the reporting in many cases.  The NYT
       keeps a really tight rein on comments with pre-publication
       censoring and monitoring, but it's labor-intensive and seems to
       be arbitrarily done by low-level workers.
       I don't see much difference between scrubbing them before they
       pop up or soon after; it's still a reminder that these are
       commercial enterprises that have zero obligation to provide a
       soapbox for random passersby.  We are free to take it or leave
       it.
       [/quote]
       Maybe, but I see thousands of comments to other WaPo articles.
       There are more than a few with over 5000.
       [/quote]
       Yeah, but those are usually politics or political opinion
       articles, where the Democrats and the Republicans and the
       Russian trolls all fight with each other.
       #Post#: 3296--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What I sent to HAX about the OT ban
       By: Lurknomore Date: August 19, 2021, 5:34 pm
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       [quote author=rickroll link=topic=84.msg3196#msg3196
       date=1629404663]
       [quote author=Lurknomore link=topic=84.msg3188#msg3188
       date=1629404162]
       Today is National Rickroll Day.
       [/quote] BP would say that I think that's everyday  :)
       [/quote]
       Rick, That was your cue to announce it is National Potato and
       Aviation Day. Obviously, you’re way out of practice.
       Oh, how the mighty have fallen.
       #Post#: 3357--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What I sent to HAX about the OT ban
       By: CaviaPorcellus Date: August 19, 2021, 6:40 pm
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       Seems like appealing to her is a lost cause. I just let my
       subscription lapse and bounced. If she or anyone at WaPo
       actually cared, they would have kept the community going.
       Sucks for her column traffic, though.
       #Post#: 3359--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What I sent to HAX about the OT ban
       By: northbayteky Date: August 19, 2021, 6:42 pm
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       There was some speculation over on the daily thread that she may
       be ready to pack it in.
       #Post#: 3360--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What I sent to HAX about the OT ban
       By: CaviaPorcellus Date: August 19, 2021, 6:43 pm
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       Seems better to make a retirement announcement then to boot us
       all out. She's an entertainer, not a landlady.
       Still, she had a good run. 24 years, right?
       #Post#: 3388--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What I sent to HAX about the OT ban
       By: Mamabear Date: August 19, 2021, 7:47 pm
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       I'd just like to say I'm really happy to see Rick here and hope
       all is going well🤗
       #Post#: 3398--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What I sent to HAX about the OT ban
       By: AbidingDudev4.1 Date: August 19, 2021, 8:32 pm
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       I'd just like to add that my level of petty indignation included
       unfollowing Ms. Hax on Twitter.
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       #Post#: 3416--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What I sent to HAX about the OT ban
       By: guest125 Date: August 19, 2021, 9:20 pm
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       [quote author=Skowronek link=topic=84.msg2907#msg2907
       date=1629391365]
       She has almost 130,000 followers on Facebook.  That doesn't mean
       they read her every day, but it probably makes her feel good.
       [/quote]
       That isn't a huge number for FB.  Plus, what really "counts" is
       the number of daily interactions there.  How many people go to
       her page, post, whatever each day.  But, yeah, maybe that makes
       her feel good.
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