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       #Post#: 5190--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What I sent to HAX about the OT ban
       By: pamelaaos Date: August 22, 2021, 3:56 pm
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       Rick, I keep checking this thread to see if there's been any
       response from Hax or her producer, and although I'm not at all
       surprised there's been nothing, it's still a little bit
       disappointing.  [emoji20]
       #Post#: 5191--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What I sent to HAX about the OT ban
       By: guest157 Date: August 22, 2021, 3:59 pm
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       It was the peremptory attitude of the announcement that inspired
       me to cancel my subscription. WaPo was pretty duplicative for
       news in any case. I mostly subscribed fot the Hax community.
       #Post#: 5204--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What I sent to HAX about the OT ban
       By: PalomaBlanca Date: August 22, 2021, 4:39 pm
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       [quote author=GladGrace link=topic=84.msg5175#msg5175
       date=1629663502]
       But I am mixed on commenting on Hax there, partly because I'm
       so disgusted with them for the decision and the way they rolled
       it out. Right now I'm jumping in over there, not daily, but then
       when I see a low comment count I have some not very nice sense
       of satisfaction and refrain so that I don't drive it up. Wapo
       can suffer with the reality of their low count and the, imo,
       incursion of more of the trashier commenters (without us to show
       them the door.)
       [/quote]
       I commented when this site opened that it would be my go-to
       site, and that I would not be adding any substantial comments to
       Hax's column.  An occasional peek only.
       My analogy was to see the situation as akin to having a
       neighborhood cafe or pub where a group of friends congregated.
       If the bar owner decided to summarily kick out and permanently
       ban half of the group, would you really go back and sit at that
       half-empty table while your friends were outside?  And would you
       keep buying drinks there and helping the bar owner turn a
       profit?
       I wouldn't.  I would find a new place to drink.  Where my
       friends were welcome.  :)
       So, I will keep the WaPo subscription for now, since I've read
       in there for a long, long time.  The political reporting and the
       caliber of the journalists is important to me. I don't see Hax
       as a hard news journalist, so that's a distinction.  (And she
       likely doesn't see herself that way either, fwiw).  But I will
       see how their "Democracy Dies in Darkness " plays out.
       #Post#: 5604--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What I sent to HAX about the OT ban
       By: northbayteky Date: August 23, 2021, 11:24 am
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       [quote author=mousewoman link=topic=84.msg5191#msg5191
       date=1629665981]
       ...WaPo was pretty duplicative for news in any case. I mostly
       subscribed for the Hax community.
       [/quote]
       This is me as well. I only gave WaPo money because that was the
       only way to comment to the group. My subscription is about to
       run out and I will not renew. at this point they would have to
       give it to me for free. I will continue to give The Guardian
       money, I still have AP and Reuters on my phone and get hot news
       notifications there. I will miss the comics, and that's about
       it.
       #Post#: 5648--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What I sent to HAX about the OT ban
       By: SymphonyFan Date: August 23, 2021, 12:02 pm
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       I haven't made the effort to cancel because the WAPO news is
       still better than the local USA Today rag.  But I'm realizing
       that the main attraction really was the OT crowd.  I really
       enjoy reading about people's lives--and during the pandemic, it
       really did help replace the usual banter with my neighbors.
       I hope to get to know you better now that it's a less public
       place.
       #Post#: 13924--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What I sent to HAX about the OT ban
       By: Heron Date: September 10, 2021, 9:05 am
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       I sent the following to Carolyn today:
       Hi, Carolyn. Did you decide to cut off OTers in WaPo comments
       because you were getting lots of emails from people who were
       tired of not seeing enough on-topic comments? Or was it a matter
       of growing tired of seeing the OT wars in the comment sections?
       I understand your desire to no longer be stuck in the middle,
       but I'm interested to know what the final straw was.
       It seems to me like the comment sections linked to your articles
       in the Post are now about as friendly as Amy Dickinson's and
       Miss Manners's are--in other words, mostly snarky and negative.
       Lots of making fun of the LWs, and criticism of your letter
       choices.
       I hope you had a pleasant vacation, and good luck with today's
       chat.
       ***
       Will update if I receive a reply.
       #Post#: 13989--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What I sent to HAX about the OT ban
       By: ricksterps Date: September 10, 2021, 10:27 am
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       My subscription ended yesterday.  They won't be getting any
       additional money from me.  My guess is Hax will never address
       this again.  For all her advice to the contrary, she isn't much
       on apologies or admitting mistakes.
       #Post#: 14002--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What I sent to HAX about the OT ban
       By: Heron Date: September 10, 2021, 10:35 am
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       I'm keeping my subscription, Rick--mostly for the recipes and
       the weekly cooking chat. The New York Times charges extra for
       recipe access, and I like the recipes in the WaPo better,
       anyway.
       I don't think Carolyn cares how many people have dropped their
       Post subscriptions because of her decision. That's not how she
       rolls. And I suspect the Post isn't exactly hurting, either.
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