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       #Post#: 2794--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What I sent to HAX about the OT ban
       By: ricksterps Date: August 19, 2021, 10:16 am
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       [quote author=Artemis1982 link=topic=84.msg2784#msg2784
       date=1629385760]
       I honestly doubt the advertising execs at WaPo are happy about
       what's happened. When they first announced the OT ban, I assumed
       comments might drop by about 200-300 at most. I really thought
       people would still stay and comment mostly on-topic. But I've
       been stunned by how few comments there are on her columns. She's
       at 547 right now; normally she'd be at 1000 by this time of day.
       I can only assume the pageviews are significantly down too.
       Since it seems that the decision to go OT was totally CH's, I
       guarantee there are conversations going on about how this
       traffic drop will affect their numbers.
       Ironically, I think most of us would have stuck around if it
       hadn't been for that dig she got in on last Friday's column.
       That was just insulting. I don't think it occured to her that
       people would pick up and leave en masse.
       [/quote]
       What dig was that?
       #Post#: 2797--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What I sent to HAX about the OT ban
       By: Artemis1982 Date: August 19, 2021, 10:19 am
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       [quote author=rickroll link=topic=84.msg2794#msg2794
       date=1629386172]
       [quote author=Artemis1982 link=topic=84.msg2784#msg2784
       date=1629385760]
       I honestly doubt the advertising execs at WaPo are happy about
       what's happened. When they first announced the OT ban, I assumed
       comments might drop by about 200-300 at most. I really thought
       people would still stay and comment mostly on-topic. But I've
       been stunned by how few comments there are on her columns. She's
       at 547 right now; normally she'd be at 1000 by this time of day.
       I can only assume the pageviews are significantly down too.
       Since it seems that the decision to go OT was totally CH's, I
       guarantee there are conversations going on about how this
       traffic drop will affect their numbers.
       Ironically, I think most of us would have stuck around if it
       hadn't been for that dig she got in on last Friday's column.
       That was just insulting. I don't think it occured to her that
       people would pick up and leave en masse.
       [/quote]
       What dig was that?
       [/quote]
       The crack about the commentariat argument in this column.
  HTML https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2021/08/13/carolyn-hax-rescheduled-wedding-friend-skip-concert-date/
       #Post#: 2811--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What I sent to HAX about the OT ban
       By: animaniactoo Date: August 19, 2021, 10:32 am
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       I honestly believe that the commentariat comment would have gone
       over as a complete and utter laugh "yup, she knows how it works
       around here" IF that hadn't come in the same week as the OT ban.
       Combined, it just did NOT come off the same way. And it is very
       likely that they were not supposed to coincide, they just
       happened to because of when different decisions were made.
       #Post#: 2812--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What I sent to HAX about the OT ban
       By: Queenie Date: August 19, 2021, 10:32 am
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       [quote author=Artemis1982 link=topic=84.msg2784#msg2784
       date=1629385760]
       Ironically, I think most of us would have stuck around if it
       hadn't been for that dig she got in on last Friday's column.
       That was just insulting. I don't think it occured to her that
       people would pick up and leave en masse.
       [/quote]
       I'm childishly boycotting.  Could someone cut and paste the
       offending remark?
       #Post#: 2814--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What I sent to HAX about the OT ban
       By: Thetis099 Date: August 19, 2021, 10:34 am
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       Indeed.  I found her dig at the Hax OT community - especially
       after she had suggested a chat LW come to the Hax OT community
       for emotional support just weeks prior - was extremely
       offputting.  It really did seem like she threw the community
       under the bus to help herself.  Her choice, but I can choose to
       leave so that is what I did.  I have read the letter/letters
       most days in order to comment about them here, but I have not
       even entered the comment section or the chat.  I will stop
       reading the letters when my subscription runs out.  I also
       stopped reading news there and switched to BBC and NPR full time
       and I am happier for it.  I was not fully aware of just how much
       the increasing hostility there was really bothering me.
       #Post#: 2815--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What I sent to HAX about the OT ban
       By: West Morse Date: August 19, 2021, 10:34 am
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       I know WaPo isn't going to miss Lil Ole Me like I was some kind
       of buying powerhouse that pleased the advertisers to no end, but
       I did buy a LOT of stuff from the target marketing designed to
       suit my tastes - I'd never been mined so effectively and
       accurately before.
       WaPo spent a TON of money on that software - maybe that's why
       they couldn't pay to bring back the little OT checkbox...  :-\
       #Post#: 2820--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What I sent to HAX about the OT ban
       By: iamnotarobot Date: August 19, 2021, 10:37 am
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       [quote author=West Morse link=topic=84.msg2815#msg2815
       date=1629387295]
       I know WaPo isn't going to miss Lil Ole Me like I was some kind
       of buying powerhouse that pleased the advertisers to no end, but
       I did buy a LOT of stuff from the target marketing designed to
       suit my tastes - I'd never been mined so effectively and
       accurately before.
       WaPo spent a TON of money on that software - maybe that's why
       they couldn't pay to bring back the little OT checkbox...  :-\
       [/quote]
       I did too. Not like they're going to go under without me
       obviously, but wapo seemed to have a pretty clear idea of my
       industry and I'd usually just click the link to buy stuff
       because I'd think oh yeah I do need to order more of those and
       click.
       #Post#: 2822--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What I sent to HAX about the OT ban
       By: ricksterps Date: August 19, 2021, 10:39 am
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       I actually thing it may have bugged her how much we didn't talk
       about her column in there.
       #Post#: 2823--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What I sent to HAX about the OT ban
       By: animaniactoo Date: August 19, 2021, 10:40 am
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       [quote author=Queenie link=topic=84.msg2812#msg2812
       date=1629387169]
       [quote author=Artemis1982 link=topic=84.msg2784#msg2784
       date=1629385760]
       Ironically, I think most of us would have stuck around if it
       hadn't been for that dig she got in on last Friday's column.
       That was just insulting. I don't think it occured to her that
       people would pick up and leave en masse.
       [/quote]
       I'm childishly boycotting.  Could someone cut and paste the
       offending remark?
       [/quote]
       It was the one about almost not answering/publishing the letter
       because she didn't want to set off a concert vs wedding war in
       the commentariat.
       #Post#: 2825--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What I sent to HAX about the OT ban
       By: Queenie Date: August 19, 2021, 10:41 am
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       I'm a little curious how she's gonna do the hoots without a
       bunch of tangential/OT stories.
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