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       whoopi goldberg
   DIR By: whiterose
       Date: February 2, 2022, 8:13 am
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       Can anyone provide a link to Whoopi Goldberg's comment that
       brought her so much flack?
       The only thing I am getting is that she said the Holocaust was
       not about race.
       And if that was the extent of it, I could very well argue that
       it was not about race..but about painting people as being of
       some imaginary race to cast them as the"others" in order to
       justify their persecution...as if there was ever any
       justification for persecution of any sort...never mind one bent
       on the extermination of a whole subset of people, be it their
       race, religion, what have you.
       Or has anyone seen on a census form under race/ethnicity the
       category "Jewish"?
       If anyone has a website that actually has a video of what she
       said and how she argued it, I'd be seriously thankful.
       I know it is a fraught topic,but I'd like to hear exactly what
       words she used.
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       Re: whoopi goldberg
   DIR By: oreally
       Date: February 2, 2022, 8:17 am
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       This article quotes the conversation. I'll keep looking.
  HTML https://www.cbsnews.com/news/whoopi-goldberg-suspended-the-view-holocaust-race-comments/
       ETA: it is in here.
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2PZ50UeDVU
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       Re: whoopi goldberg
   DIR By: Itopian
       Date: February 2, 2022, 8:20 am
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       > This article quotes the conversation. I'll keep looking.
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  HTML https://www.cbsnews.com/news/whoopi-goldberg-suspended-the-view-holocaust-race-comments/
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       Thank you.
       #Post#: 69321--------------------------------------------------
       Re: whoopi goldberg
   DIR By: whiterose
       Date: February 2, 2022, 8:34 am
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       --- Quote from: oreally link ---
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       > This article quotes the conversation. I'll keep looking.
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  HTML https://www.cbsnews.com/news/whoopi-goldberg-suspended-the-view-holocaust-race-comments/
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       > ETA: it is in here.
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2PZ50UeDVU
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       Thank you!
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       Re: whoopi goldberg
   DIR By: CaviaPorcellus
       Date: February 5, 2022, 1:26 am
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       --- Quote from: whiterose link ---
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       > Or has anyone seen on a census form under race/ethnicity the
       category "Jewish"?
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       Yes. Also "Hebrew".
       Judaism is an ethnoreligion that predates the concept of race,
       but we all have common genetic markers from the Levant and we've
       been racialized since at least the 1400s, starting with Spain's
       Limpieza de Sangre laws which outlawed conversos from having the
       same privileges as "Old Christians".
       Race is a social construct that is shifted as needed to preserve
       power structures. Whoopi's mistake was thinking that modern race
       categories in the United States are universal and timeless.
       They're not. They're recent and a product of our culture and
       power structures.
       Also, considering she adopted the stage name "Goldberg" to sound
       Jew-y because Jews control Hollywood, AND she's defended known
       virulent antisemite Mel Gibson, I really am not inclined to cut
       her any slack here.
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