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Re: Weather: Everybody talks about it
By: kkt Date: January 12, 2024, 11:53 pm
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[quote author=MidwestmikkiJ link=topic=694.msg229922#msg229922
date=1705123783]
[quote author=kkt link=topic=694.msg229919#msg229919
date=1705121293]
[quote author=NordicDog link=topic=694.msg229918#msg229918
date=1705120658]
Minus 11 and dropping. Glad we’re all tucked in.
[/quote]
brrr!
20 here, expected to get to low teens. Faucet and tub set to
drip.
[/quote]
Have you had trouble with frozen pipes?
[/quote]
Not yet in this house, but in other houses when it gets down
into the teens. Dripping costs nothing - I save the water in a
mixing bowl.
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Re: Weather: Everybody talks about it
By: Thetis099 Date: January 13, 2024, 7:59 am
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The wind chill here is -10 °C (13 °F) this morning. I have the
thermostat set at 24 °C (75 °F) to keep the heater from cycling
off too much, but it is still cold enough in here to wear long
pants and long sleeves in layers - the heater can't keep up. I
slept under an extra quilt and an extra fleece blanket, and
Shrunken Cat slept under her little fleece blanket which is a
very rare occurrence. At present, Shrunken Cat is staying close
to the heater and I am hanging out over there with her quite a
bit.
Stay warm haxnuts!
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Re: Weather: Everybody talks about it
By: muskrat Date: January 13, 2024, 8:40 am
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[quote author=LabPartner link=topic=694.msg229920#msg229920
date=1705121898]
We had about 4" of wet, heavy snow this morning. About 10 am, it
started to rain. It's just about 11 pm now, and it has finally
started looking like snow instead of rain. Expecting another
inch or 2 overnight.
[/quote]
looking forward to some black lab/white snow pix ;D
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Re: Weather: Everybody talks about it
By: Tryp_OR Date: January 13, 2024, 9:06 am
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I didn't actually go to bed last night, not particularly tired
and somehow a bit worked up about the weather. There is a light
coating of ice, some white on top of that, and now it seems to
be raining again. I'm going to get some sleep soon, and I'm
expecting further ice accumulation through the morning. My last
act will be to put out some fresh sugar water for the
hummingbirds (I think I'll have to switch that out again around
noon to prevent freezing). Hope they find and use it. I don't
have any warming system and I'm not sure what their chances are
when the temperatures drop another 5 degrees Tuesday night.
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Re: Weather: Everybody talks about it
By: MidwestmikkiJ Date: January 13, 2024, 10:22 am
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[quote author=kkt link=topic=694.msg229926#msg229926
date=1705125225]
[quote author=MidwestmikkiJ link=topic=694.msg229922#msg229922
date=1705123783]
[quote author=kkt link=topic=694.msg229919#msg229919
date=1705121293]
[quote author=NordicDog link=topic=694.msg229918#msg229918
date=1705120658]
Minus 11 and dropping. Glad we’re all tucked in.
[/quote]
brrr!
20 here, expected to get to low teens. Faucet and tub set to
drip.
[/quote]
Have you had trouble with frozen pipes?
[/quote]
Not yet in this house, but in other houses when it gets down
into the teens. Dripping costs nothing - I save the water in a
mixing bowl.
[/quote]
I’m just always curious how winter affects people in parts of
the country that don’t routinely have subzero temps. Generally
here people don’t have frozen pipes unless a window gets left
open or the heat goes out or is set way too low when away from
home, or maybe the basement gets too cold in a subzero cold snap
that lasts for over a week. We insulate our houses like crazy
and have heating systems that can keep up because we have to.
On the other hand give us a long string of 90+ days and we we
begin to melt. Lots of people don’t have central air and maybe
don’t have a window A/C unit. And our houses are built to let
the sun in to warm us up not to keep it out.
Climate change is altering some of how we’ve learned to build in
various places.
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Re: Weather: Everybody talks about it
By: Thetis099 Date: January 13, 2024, 10:50 am
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[quote author=MidwestmikkiJ link=topic=694.msg229956#msg229956
date=1705162966]
[quote author=kkt link=topic=694.msg229926#msg229926
date=1705125225]
[quote author=MidwestmikkiJ link=topic=694.msg229922#msg229922
date=1705123783]
[quote author=kkt link=topic=694.msg229919#msg229919
date=1705121293]
[quote author=NordicDog link=topic=694.msg229918#msg229918
date=1705120658]
Minus 11 and dropping. Glad we’re all tucked in.
[/quote]
brrr!
20 here, expected to get to low teens. Faucet and tub set to
drip.
[/quote]
Have you had trouble with frozen pipes?
[/quote]
Not yet in this house, but in other houses when it gets down
into the teens. Dripping costs nothing - I save the water in a
mixing bowl.
[/quote]
I’m just always curious how winter affects people in parts of
the country that don’t routinely have subzero temps. Generally
here people don’t have frozen pipes unless a window gets left
open or the heat goes out or is set way too low when away from
home, or maybe the basement gets too cold in a subzero cold snap
that lasts for over a week. We insulate our houses like crazy
and have heating systems that can keep up because we have to.
On the other hand give us a long string of 90+ days and we we
begin to melt. Lots of people don’t have central air and maybe
don’t have a window A/C unit. And our houses are built to let
the sun in to warm us up not to keep it out.
Climate change is altering some of how we’ve learned to build in
various places.
[/quote]
We had frozen pipes a couple of times in Texas. Once when I was
a kid, but it happened during a big cold wave in 1989. I missed
more than a week of school because they couldn't heat both the
schools and the surrounding houses due to the increased demand
on the natural gas lines. We made up the time at the end of the
school year.
About the 1989 cold wave, from Wikipedia:
"Many locations experienced monthly or all-time record lows, and
freezing temperatures destroyed much of the citrus crop in south
Texas and Florida.[1]
Texas
December 1989 set monthly record lows for Houston, Galveston,
and College Station.[5] Brownsville, Texas fell to 16 °F
(−9 °C) and temperatures on the upper coast fell into the
single digits.[3] Dallas-Fort Worth had 295 consecutive hours of
freezing temperatures ending on December 30, with a record low
average monthly temperature of 34.8 °F (1.6 °C) and a low of 5
°F (−15 °C) on December 22.[2] Broken water pipes in
Dallas resulted in $25 million in damage and large disruptions
to the local manufacturing industry.[1] Houston Intercontinental
Airport set a record low of 7 °F (−14 °C) on December 22,
as well as experiencing 1.7 in (4.3 cm) of snow.[5]
An estimated six million fish died in Texan bays from the
freeze. The toll would have been higher if 11.3 million fish had
not already died in the February cold wave earlier in the
year.[3] "
The other was in the early 90s. The crappy old pier and beam
foundation rent house me and ex husband lived in for a few years
had no storm windows, high ceilings, and no insulation. Despite
our wrapping the pipes and leaving the water dripping per the
landlord's instructions, the temperature stayed well below
freezing for several days so the water in the pipes under the
kitchen froze anyway. That house was incredibly drafty and cold
in winter.
I am leaving a drip going in my sinks and bathtub until the
daytime highs are back above freezing per the apartment
management's request, but they do that every time the
temperature dips below freezing for more than a few hours
overnight. I think it is overkill most of the time.
The freezing rain has started in Astoria.
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Re: Weather: Everybody talks about it
By: MidwestmikkiJ Date: January 13, 2024, 11:35 am
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[quote author=Thetis099 link=topic=694.msg229962#msg229962
date=1705164600]
We had frozen pipes a couple of times in Texas. Once when I was
a kid, but it happened during a big cold wave in 1989. I missed
more than a week of school because they couldn't heat both the
schools and the surrounding houses due to the increased demand
on the natural gas lines. We made up the time at the end of the
school year.
About the 1989 cold wave, from Wikipedia:
"Many locations experienced monthly or all-time record lows, and
freezing temperatures destroyed much of the citrus crop in south
Texas and Florida.[1]
Texas
December 1989 set monthly record lows for Houston, Galveston,
and College Station.[5] Brownsville, Texas fell to 16 °F
(−9 °C) and temperatures on the upper coast fell into the
single digits.[3] Dallas-Fort Worth had 295 consecutive hours of
freezing temperatures ending on December 30, with a record low
average monthly temperature of 34.8 °F (1.6 °C) and a low of 5
°F (−15 °C) on December 22.[2] Broken water pipes in
Dallas resulted in $25 million in damage and large disruptions
to the local manufacturing industry.[1] Houston Intercontinental
Airport set a record low of 7 °F (−14 °C) on December 22,
as well as experiencing 1.7 in (4.3 cm) of snow.[5]
An estimated six million fish died in Texan bays from the
freeze. The toll would have been higher if 11.3 million fish had
not already died in the February cold wave earlier in the
year.[3] "
The other was in the early 90s. The crappy old pier and beam
foundation rent house me and ex husband lived in for a few years
had no storm windows, high ceilings, and no insulation. Despite
our wrapping the pipes and leaving the water dripping per the
landlord's instructions, the temperature stayed well below
freezing for several days so the water in the pipes under the
kitchen froze anyway. That house was incredibly drafty and cold
in winter.
I am leaving a drip going in my sinks and bathtub until the
daytime highs are back above freezing per the apartment
management's request, but they do that every time the
temperature dips below freezing for more than a few hours
overnight. I think it is overkill most of the time.
The freezing rain has started in Astoria.
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I'm a weather junkie. I always intended to take a meteorology
class after retirement and haven't done it yet.
When Texas had so much trouble with their electric grid a few
winters ago we all sort of laughed up here thinking it couldn't
happen to us. And our grid is a lot better but the truth is it
could happen here.
Several winters ago - probably the 2013/14 one which had extreme
cold that lasted for weeks but it may have been an extreme cold
snap since then - we in the Twin Cities were asked to conserve
gas by lowering our temps to 62 or 64 all day. The problem was
that a new development in a growing town 60 miles north didn't
have enough pressure to keep gas to all the homes there.
Apparently when they arranged for gas to new area it was
undersized or something. And there isn't anything they can do
about that in the middle of the winter.
So, for all our winter experience we can still screw up. And
people in really old houses may not have enough insulation here
either unless it's been added after the fact. Heat was cheap in
the olden days and the kind of insulation everyone uses now
hadn't been invented. My early 1900s house in St. Paul got new
wall and ceiling insulation just before I bought it in 1980. We
added more to the roof in 2020. And we were always trying new
and better weather stripping. We've noticed that in our
apartment (building built in 2002) we don't have much of any
drafts except what comes from the hallway. So between the shared
walls and the weathertight windows it's pretty well insulated.
Finally, I think freezing rain is about the worst of the weather
events outside of hugs things like tornados and hurricanes.
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Re: Weather: Everybody talks about it
By: Thetis099 Date: January 13, 2024, 12:58 pm
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The County called it, good, I hope people stay home. I am
seeing a mix of freezing rain and light snow at present. This
alert just hit my inbox:
...County urges people to stay home. Hazardous and icy
conditions are making it difficult to apply treatments to roads
and sidewalks. Do not drive. If you do so, you are putting law
enforcement, firefighters, emergency medical personnel and
public works employees at risk.
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Re: Weather: Everybody talks about it
By: kkt Date: January 13, 2024, 1:11 pm
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We esacped the ice here (knock on wood). Mostly clear at night
with a few pink clouds at sunrise. Still cold, 23 now. Birds
are out though! flicker, a flock of robins (we usually don't
see them in the winter when they flock), assorted crows and
gulls. Maybe bundle up and take a walk later.
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Re: Weather: Everybody talks about it
By: Thetis099 Date: January 13, 2024, 3:58 pm
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The ice is really starting to accumulate. I have windows facing
the north to northeast. The wind is blowing the rain into those
windows, and they are coated with enough ice that I can't see
through them anymore. The ivy outside the partially sheltered
windows on the south side is stiff even in the gusts of wind, so
it is coated with ice too. I can still hear the rain/sleet
hitting the windows now and the radar says we will get more
before it passes. It is as if I can feel the tree limbs all
over town getting heavier and heavier and starting to crack.
Starting to get nervous we might lose power. It is too effing
cold for that! I haven't come out of my layers all day even
with the heat cranked up, and the Shrunken Cat just abandoned
her perch in her bed on the table by the heater (I moved her
closer to the rising heat) to lie on the floor much closer to
the heat source.
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