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       Re: Is it a lab thing or is my dog strange?
       By: LabPartner Date: September 3, 2021, 12:22 pm
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       I thought the debate was over about that.
       #Post#: 11497--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is it a lab thing or is my dog strange?
       By: guest80 Date: September 3, 2021, 7:55 pm
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       [quote author=Queenie link=topic=59.msg11215#msg11215
       date=1630681150]
       LCP is almost six months old and definitely starting to behave
       like an adolescent.
       Slobberdogs start the bratty teen phase around ten months so
       this feels early to me.  Questions:
       1.  Is this about right for labs?
       2. How long does it last?  (I usually figure about ten months of
       pushiness for Slobberdogs.)
       3. Would anyone like a slightly used large-ish chocolate lab
       puppy?
       [/quote]
       I know you're joking but i would take a used lab puppy in a New
       York minute.  Despite all that I will say below...
       I'm approaching 70 (in a little over a year) and my much loved
       lab lived to 15+ so I cannot have a lab when I am nearing 85.
       My lab did not calm down until he reached his dotage, so it was
       a good 10 years.  We were not good dog trainers though and he
       pulled a sled down the street (for hours) with neighborhood kids
       when we had a good snow.  Didn't think that one through,
       obviously.  We trained him to pull...
       My current dog is a rescue husky mix who is turning 5 in a
       couple of weeks.  She is not nearly as difficult as my lab.
       Also she weighs 52 pounds, my lab weighed 65.  It turns out that
       is a significant difference.  My lab could pull me off my feet
       (and did) when he saw a rabbit.  My husky probably could, but
       doesn't - she is a squirrel hunter.  But, older and wiser, we've
       taught her not to pull.  She knows the command "No pull!"  and
       stops immediately.
       I always love to hear about your pup and love the photos.  My
       heart belongs to labs (and to huskys now - I do love the
       vocalizing they do!)
       #Post#: 11635--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is it a lab thing or is my dog strange?
       By: Aardtacha Date: September 4, 2021, 10:54 am
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       [quote author=Rufus1952 link=topic=59.msg11497#msg11497
       date=1630716917]
       My lab did not calm down until he reached his dotage, so it was
       a good 10 years.  We were not good dog trainers though and he
       pulled a sled down the street (for hours) with neighborhood kids
       when we had a good snow.  Didn't think that one through,
       obviously.  We trained him to pull...
       [/quote]
       :o OMG, the pups are only 8 months old!
       #Post#: 30178--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is it a lab thing or is my dog strange?
       By: Queenie Date: October 18, 2021, 10:29 am
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       This puppy is the most social pet I've ever had by about a
       thousand miles.  We're working on "polite greetings" by taking
       her on hiking trails where we are likely to meet a bazillion
       people and about a third that many dogs.
       It's a work in progress.  By the billionth person she has gained
       the ability to not completely lose her entire shit to the point
       where she can not only hear a command to sit but execute it and
       then be released to "say hi."  And we think we are making
       progress until the next hike, whereupon we evidently all have to
       go back to square one, where she sees a human or God forbid a
       human and a dog or double God forbid a human and another lab
       puppy and you can just see her little brain trying to calm her
       body down enough to sit but she's JUST SO EXCITED that she . . .
       just . . . CAN'T and then all hell breaks loose.
       In other news she flushed her first pheasant yesterday and about
       exploded with happiness.  (No pheasants were harmed.)
       #Post#: 38143--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is it a lab thing or is my dog strange?
       By: guest114 Date: November 6, 2021, 1:08 am
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       Some labs have more otter in them than others, and snorkeling
       in water sounds normal for a lot of water retrievers.
       If she's female these female labs can get pretty cocky by 6
       months old.  Dogsat a lab-golden cross that I was really glad my
       aunt gave away because I didn't think it would be good around
       little kids when grown. Very high prey drive (caught voles)  and
       very bossy.  Picked a fight with my collie cross over a bone
       ('puppy license' which my collie disagreed with.) and we had to
       feed them separately.  That pup was barely 6 months old and
       bossing a dog twice her weight.
       Mr. Hastings is about as high prey drive, but he's a different
       breed mix entirely and much more laid back with people from day
       one, very sweet.  He would also not have been crazy about that
       pup trying to steal his bone, either.  Toys, he's cool with
       sharing. Bone out of his mouth? No.
       As for losing her shit... that can be actually be anxious
       behavior, in that every person has to be established as friendly
       or not.  Dogs that need to rush up to every person they see
       always trigger me as more anxious than friendly.
       Since as a lab she's unlikely to turn vicious or mistrustful
       of others,  it's actually a good idea to focus on ignoring
       people on walks as a habit once she turns 9 months to 1 year or
       so and is fully socialized.  Relax her.
       
  HTML https://doberman-chat.com/threads/why-are-european-dogs-so-well-behaved.26467/<br
       /> This is a good thread on why strangers not interacting with
       your dog w/o permission can encourage a well behaved dog.  It
       works.
       I always ask my service dog if they want petting or
       interaction. Usually surprises people enough I even ask the dog
       first, that they accept the "no" from the dog's mouth.  I know
       if I'm not in a mood or they need to focus on me, they will
       ignore the request anyway.  When they say yes, they will go up
       for a pet on their own.
       I instilled "sit to greet" for my first service dog when he
       wanted to meet other dogs. Every time, no exceptions. He had to
       show me he was calm enough to go greet another dog and maybe I'd
       allow him.
       
       I got him to reflexively stop and sit on runaways to other
       dogs and even stopped a dog fight once with that engrained
       command.  I don't recommend sit as a command for dogs that are
       apt to jump on people because it's a "launch" position, but
       lying down is amazing habit to have a dog develop around people.
       Harder to jump from a full on lie and it relaxes the dog.
       Formal obedience will have you heel with an automatic sit by
       your side.  I don't like or need a dog to sit every time I stop
       (I train a stand instead.)
       Just ideas. The basic idea is a calming command.  Shake hands
       can work  (sit and offer paw), etc.  and I routinely have a few
       "tricks" i can have my dog do to blow off energy.   (I used to
       do doggy pushups for my dogs-- sit, down, sit when they were too
       wriggly to calm-- burns off some adrenaline.)
  HTML https://www.k9sovercoffee.com/fitness/how-to-teach-your-dog-to-do-doggie-pushups/<br
       />
       With Mr. Hastings as a puppy, my back was going out and I could
       not handle him tugging or excited, so I basically just played
       fetch BEFORE we went on a walk, got some of that energy out,
       and focused on polite manners on steps and gate before getting
       out for a walk.  Arouse, calm, arouse, calm, always controlling
       and focusing the arousal.  He's easy that way.
       By the way, it takes around 40 minutes for a dog's adrenaline
       to burn off totally. I had the same problem with my first
       service dog being really revved up on new walks or walks for a
       while.  That's why you're seeing LCP calm down then next walk
       she's all fresh and excited out of her mind again... and why I
       chose to play fetch a little first to help burn off that
       adrenaline BEFORE I got out the leash with my second dog ;).
       
       #Post#: 57346--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is it a lab thing or is my dog strange?
       By: Queenie Date: December 31, 2021, 8:43 am
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       We went to the vet yesterday.  Routine visit,  everyone is fine.
       Vet told me that the chocolates are extra insane.
       She is still losing her entire shit every time she sees:
       A person
       A dog
       A store
       The groomer
       The vet's office
       Anything else that might involve any kind of social interaction.
       It's *exhausting*, how social she is.
       This is actually entirely my fault, as I purposely chose the
       firecracker of the litter and the breeder awarded her to us
       "because she needs an experienced family who will keep her brain
       busy."
       Note to self: be careful what you wish for!
       Her focus does continue to improve as we work this problem,  but
       oof, it wears me out.
       #Post#: 57353--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is it a lab thing or is my dog strange?
       By: acl-ny Date: December 31, 2021, 9:04 am
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       [quote author=guest80 link=topic=59.msg11497#msg11497
       date=1630716917]
       [quote author=Queenie link=topic=59.msg11215#msg11215
       date=1630681150]
       LCP is almost six months old and definitely starting to behave
       like an adolescent.
       Slobberdogs start the bratty teen phase around ten months so
       this feels early to me.  Questions:
       1.  Is this about right for labs?
       2. How long does it last?  (I usually figure about ten months of
       pushiness for Slobberdogs.)
       3. Would anyone like a slightly used large-ish chocolate lab
       puppy?
       [/quote]
       I know you're joking but i would take a used lab puppy in a New
       York minute.  Despite all that I will say below...
       I'm approaching 70 (in a little over a year) and my much loved
       lab lived to 15+ so I cannot have a lab when I am nearing 85.
       My lab did not calm down until he reached his dotage, so it was
       a good 10 years.  We were not good dog trainers though and he
       pulled a sled down the street (for hours) with neighborhood kids
       when we had a good snow.  Didn't think that one through,
       obviously.  We trained him to pull...
       My current dog is a rescue husky mix who is turning 5 in a
       couple of weeks.  She is not nearly as difficult as my lab.
       Also she weighs 52 pounds, my lab weighed 65.  It turns out that
       is a significant difference.  My lab could pull me off my feet
       (and did) when he saw a rabbit.  My husky probably could, but
       doesn't - she is a squirrel hunter.  But, older and wiser, we've
       taught her not to pull.  She knows the command "No pull!"  and
       stops immediately.
       I always love to hear about your pup and love the photos.  My
       heart belongs to labs (and to huskys now - I do love the
       vocalizing they do!)
       [/quote]
       Could you, would you, post a pic of your husky?  imbgg.com is a
       good way to do so anonymously.
       #Post#: 57358--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is it a lab thing or is my dog strange?
       By: LabPartner Date: December 31, 2021, 9:16 am
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       [quote author=acl-ny link=topic=59.msg57353#msg57353
       date=1640963098]
       [quote author=guest80 link=topic=59.msg11497#msg11497
       date=1630716917]
       [quote author=Queenie link=topic=59.msg11215#msg11215
       date=1630681150]
       [/quote]
       [/quote]
       Could you, would you, post a pic of your husky?  imbgg.com is a
       good way to do so anonymously.
       [/quote]
       Sadly, people who are listed as Guest[number] are people who
       have deleted their membership in the group.
       #Post#: 57407--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is it a lab thing or is my dog strange?
       By: Buckleup Buttercup Date: December 31, 2021, 11:35 am
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       [quote author=Queenie link=topic=59.msg57346#msg57346
       date=1640961834]
       We went to the vet yesterday.  Routine visit,  everyone is fine.
       Vet told me that the chocolates are extra insane.
       She is still losing her entire shit every time she sees:
       A person
       A dog
       A store
       The groomer
       The vet's office
       Anything else that might involve any kind of social interaction.
       It's *exhausting*, how social she is.
       This is actually entirely my fault, as I purposely chose the
       firecracker of the litter and the breeder awarded her to us
       "because she needs an experienced family who will keep her brain
       busy."
       Note to self: be careful what you wish for!
       Her focus does continue to improve as we work this problem,  but
       oof, it wears me out.
       [/quote]
       She may be a perfect therapy dog for visiting people. And around
       six months is when Stella got the “persnickety” middle name.
       Feel free to take it.&#128521;
       #Post#: 63255--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is it a lab thing or is my dog strange?
       By: Queenie Date: January 17, 2022, 9:26 am
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       I know it's not just a lab thing but OMG the snow excitement.
       It's wearing me out.
       It's just snow!
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