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       #Post#: 49117--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: December 6, 2021, 10:51 am
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       I feel like you are moving the goalposts.  I said most people
       aren't covid-ing *at* me.  Thetis said some people are, and gave
       some examples of heinous (abeit hopefully rare) behaviour such
       as coughing on people, as well as some common and irresponsible
       behaviour such as not masking.  I said I can't worry about them.
       You said you do have to worry about them, because, omicron.  I
       disagreed.  Now you say you need to be aware, which I feel is a
       completely different thing than whether or not anyone is
       covid-ing *at* me (or anyone.)
       I heartily agree that it's important to know what public health
       measures are and aren't being taken in any given area.  I feel
       extremely fortunate there because I live in New England where
       the governors are sane and the legislatures are blue.
       Tangential:  I read a piece yesterday, can't remember where,
       that shows the highest death rates are in the reddest counties.
       I can't be happy about death rates but part of me feels like
       it's a "hoist on your own petard" thing.
       #Post#: 49334--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: December 6, 2021, 11:15 pm
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       Welp,  I disagree. I mean, people suck, absolutely, no
       disagreement there at all. But them thinking about themselves
       isn't about me.
       It affects me and that sucks, yes. Just like reckless drivers.
       It's irresponsible and selfish. But it isn't about me.
       I certainly get the concern.  Mr Q and Oldest just returned from
       the south and they said nobody masks there.  That's crazy. And
       I'd be lying if I said I don't notice when people wear their
       masks blatantly wrong. That zen only goes so far in reality.
       #Post#: 49451--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: December 7, 2021, 10:19 am
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       Serial posting to add, this is mostly my coping mechanism for
       myself.  Because if I focus on all of the stuff everyone
       everywhere is doing that negatively affects me then I have
       trouble staying happy and also I feel like this kind of thinking
       diminishes me as a person.
       So I try (and fail!) to focus on tending my own garden.
       This is a statement about me and what works for me.
       #Post#: 50135--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: December 9, 2021, 6:44 am
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       Looks like omicron is everywhere already.  If it's showing up in
       wastewater then there's probably a lot of it.
       Fingers crossed it's milder.
       #Post#: 50207--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: Heron
       Date: December 9, 2021, 9:55 am
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       --- Quote from: Queenie link ---
       >
       > Welp,  I disagree. I mean, people suck, absolutely, no
       disagreement there at all. But them thinking about themselves
       isn't about me.
       >
       > It affects me and that sucks, yes. Just like reckless drivers.
       It's irresponsible and selfish. But it isn't about me.
       >
       > I certainly get the concern.  Mr Q and Oldest just returned
       from the south and they said nobody masks there.  That's crazy.
       And I'd be lying if I said I don't notice when people wear their
       masks blatantly wrong. That zen only goes so far in reality.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I am with you, Queenie. Being upset with/about the folks who
       aren't getting vaxxed, etc. is just too enervating. I don't have
       the bandwidth.
       #Post#: 50210--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: December 9, 2021, 9:58 am
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       --- Quote from: Heron link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Queenie link=topic=548.msg49334#msg49334
       date=1638854119]
       > Welp,  I disagree. I mean, people suck, absolutely, no
       disagreement there at all. But them thinking about themselves
       isn't about me.
       >
       > It affects me and that sucks, yes. Just like reckless drivers.
       It's irresponsible and selfish. But it isn't about me.
       >
       > I certainly get the concern.  Mr Q and Oldest just returned
       from the south and they said nobody masks there.  That's crazy.
       And I'd be lying if I said I don't notice when people wear their
       masks blatantly wrong. That zen only goes so far in reality.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I am with you, Queenie. Being upset with/about the folks who
       aren't getting vaxxed, etc. is just too enervating. I don't have
       the bandwidth.
       [/quote]
       Speaking strictly for myself, it doesn't help anything and it
       just distracts me from doing what I need to do.
       #Post#: 51015--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: Heron
       Date: December 11, 2021, 9:16 am
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       I found this thought-provoking:
  HTML https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20211209-how-to-talk-to-vaccine-hesitant-people
       #Post#: 51452--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: December 13, 2021, 9:42 am
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       Anybody adjusting their holiday plans?
       Last year we had a tiny Christmas, just Mr. Q and I.  The boys
       were at my mom's house because we were recovering from covid.
       This year we're invited to the giant Queenie clan thing.  I'm
       guessing 30 people and of course we'll all be inside crowded
       together.
       I do so want to see everyone.  I'm not in the least afraid for
       myself because, immunity.
       What I'm worried about is my mom.  She wants to see everyone
       too, and of course she's vaxxed and boosted, but she's also 86
       with a history of repeated bouts of pneumonia.
       So I asked her:  does she want to go to the big 'do?  Or would
       she rather have a quiet Christmas with just us?
       HER:  Well, what do *you* want?
       ME:  FOR GOD'S SAKE MOM, THIS IS NOT ABOUT ME!!!
       Anyway, jury is still out but I need to RSVP soon.  Ergh.
       #Post#: 51459--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: animaniactoo
       Date: December 13, 2021, 9:48 am
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       We adjusted to the extend of all getting tested right before.
       Was supposed to be about 20 of us, but my sister came down with
       a not-covid cold that shouldn't be shared either, so her crew
       stayed home and it was about 15 of us in the end.
       For Xmas it looks like it will be just me and Scritchy and we
       will probably not seek to make more plans than that.
       #Post#: 51460--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: LabPartner
       Date: December 13, 2021, 9:50 am
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       An omicron death was reported in the UK.
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