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       #Post#: 46717--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: Heron
       Date: November 30, 2021, 10:16 am
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       --- Quote from: iamnotarobot link ---
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       > [quote author=Heron link=topic=548.msg46708#msg46708
       date=1638288477]
       > The best thing about the pandemic, for me, is not having to
       share breathing space with my mom. I like her better when I
       can't see her.
       >
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       I'm sorry that's the case. Luckily for me the ones I feel that
       way about are all extended relatives.
       [/quote]
       Thanks. I'm using the pandemic break from visits to learn how to
       handle her better over the phone. Here's hoping that'll carry
       over some the next time I lay eyes on her.
       #Post#: 48685--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: Heron
       Date: December 4, 2021, 3:34 pm
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       "Omicron variant may have picked up a piece of common-cold
       virus."
  HTML https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/omicron-variant-may-have-picked-up-piece-common-cold-virus-2021-12-03/
       So, more easily transmitted, less lethal, most likely.
       #Post#: 48736--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: kkt
       Date: December 5, 2021, 1:35 am
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       --- Quote from: Heron link ---
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       > "Omicron variant may have picked up a piece of common-cold
       virus."
       >
  HTML https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/omicron-variant-may-have-picked-up-piece-common-cold-virus-2021-12-03/
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       > So, more easily transmitted, less lethal, most likely.
       >
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       This will probably make it more successful at sticking around
       long term.
       If it doesn't kill the patients or make them so sick they get
       isolated in a hospital, the patients can wander around infecting
       others.
       #Post#: 48747--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: Heron
       Date: December 5, 2021, 8:08 am
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       Covid isn't going away. Not enough of us (humans) have gotten
       vaccinated to eliminate it.
       #Post#: 48750--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: December 5, 2021, 8:21 am
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       Covid isn't going away anyhow, as vaccination doesn't prevent
       transmission.
       #Post#: 48762--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: animaniactoo
       Date: December 5, 2021, 9:34 am
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       --- Quote from: Queenie link ---
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       > Covid isn't going away anyhow, as vaccination doesn't prevent
       transmission.
       >
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       Nitpick: I think it’s better to phrase this as “completely
       eliminate” or something that makes clearer that it does prevent
       A Lot of transmission vs, doesn’t do it.
       #Post#: 48766--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: December 5, 2021, 9:38 am
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       I haven't seen the data on how much it prevents or doesn't
       prevent transmission so I won't argue.
       But it does prevent death and hospitalization hence the
       predictions that covid will become endemic.
       #Post#: 48779--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: December 5, 2021, 10:09 am
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       Tangential: I know a person who has covid. He's keeping quiet
       about it because if he doesn't work he doesn't get paid. He
       probably contracted it at work.
       You can disapprove all you want, but this is reality for a fair
       number of people.
       #Post#: 48796--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: animaniactoo
       Date: December 5, 2021, 10:45 am
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       --- Quote from: Queenie link ---
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       > Tangential: I know a person who has covid. He's keeping quiet
       about it because if he doesn't work he doesn't get paid. He
       probably contracted it at work.
       >
       > You can disapprove all you want, but this is reality for a
       fair number of people.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       No shame here. I posted this on my FB back on March 9th, 2020,
       and well, yeah - I regret to say that we've seen all of this:
       Why COVID-19 is going to be much worse in this country than it
       needs to be:
       • Lack of sufficient PTO/paid sick leave. People are not going
       to choose to miss work, no matter how well advised, when missing
       work means they can't pay the rent or buy food for the next
       week.
       • People being UNABLE to go see a doctor for fear of a medical
       bill they can't pay. Either due to lack of insurance or crappy
       ass insurance with a high deductible.
       • Businesses being unprepared and/or unwilling to allow people
       to telecommute and work from home because it will probably cost
       them money in SOME slowdown of getting work done efficiently.
       • The erosion of a basic belief in science in this country -
       particularly motivated by Trump and his administrative choices.
       Trump, who any moment now is going to tell somebody that they're
       "Doing a heck of a job!"
       #Post#: 48799--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: VillageHag
       Date: December 5, 2021, 10:51 am
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       --- Quote from: Queenie link ---
       >
       > Tangential: I know a person who has covid. He's keeping quiet
       about it because if he doesn't work he doesn't get paid. He
       probably contracted it at work.
       >
       > You can disapprove all you want, but this is reality for a
       fair number of people.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The only people I disapprove of in a situation like this are the
       employer and our stupid government. A health care system that
       protects everybody ultimately benefits everybody - why so many
       of those with the power to change our system can't see this I do
       not understand.
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