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       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: November 29, 2021, 12:02 pm
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       If I read that right, all of the participants were previously
       infected and some of them were also vaccinated.  If that is
       correct then the study does not compare previous infection to
       vaccination but rather previous infection+vaccination against
       previous infection alone.
       #Post#: 46272--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: Heron
       Date: November 29, 2021, 12:16 pm
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       The main point is, folks with prior infections should still get
       vaccinated. (I realize the CDC isn't unbiased in this regard.)
       #Post#: 46284--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: November 29, 2021, 12:29 pm
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       Wait, I thought we were comparing natural immunity vs. vaccine
       immunity.
       #Post#: 46287--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: offtopicalways
       Date: November 29, 2021, 12:30 pm
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       --- Quote from: PalomaBlanca link ---
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       > Now if we could only parse the difference between awareness
       and worry.  :) [/size][/color]
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm working on it  :)
       #Post#: 46294--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: Heron
       Date: November 29, 2021, 12:34 pm
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       --- Quote from: Queenie link ---
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       > Wait, I thought we were comparing natural immunity vs. vaccine
       immunity.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Is there such a study?
       #Post#: 46310--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: November 29, 2021, 12:44 pm
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       --- Quote from: Heron link ---
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       > [quote author=Queenie link=topic=548.msg46284#msg46284
       date=1638210591]
       > Wait, I thought we were comparing natural immunity vs. vaccine
       immunity.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Is there such a study?
       [/quote]
       You said
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       > The stuff I've read said that vaccines are more protective
       than an actual case of Covid.
       --- End Quote ---
       So I presumed you had data.
       #Post#: 46314--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: Heron
       Date: November 29, 2021, 12:48 pm
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       --- Quote from: Queenie link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Heron link=topic=548.msg46294#msg46294
       date=1638210862]
       > [quote author=Queenie link=topic=548.msg46284#msg46284
       date=1638210591]
       > Wait, I thought we were comparing natural immunity vs. vaccine
       immunity.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Is there such a study?
       [/quote]
       You said
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       > The stuff I've read said that vaccines are more protective
       than an actual case of Covid.
       --- End Quote ---
       So I presumed you had data.
       [/quote]
       Nope, not at my fingertips. I read and hear a lot of medical
       news, and I don't keep track of what I've seen or heard where.
       And as a non-scientist and non-journalist, precision is not my
       primary concern when I write online.
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       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: November 29, 2021, 12:53 pm
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       --- Quote from: Heron link ---
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       > I read and hear a lot of medical news, and I don't keep track
       of what I've seen or heard where. And as a non-scientist and
       non-journalist, precision is not my primary concern when I write
       online.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Ah.  I read this:
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       > Someone who's had Covid is usually protected from getting that
       strain of it again for about 90 days, but they can still
       contract another strain of it. So, having had Delta this summer
       wouldn't protect that person from catching Omicron (which is
       probably already here in the States) this winter.
       --- End Quote ---
       And it appeared that you were stating actual facts.
       #Post#: 46328--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: Heron
       Date: November 29, 2021, 1:02 pm
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       Queenie, I am not sitting for my dissertation defense here. I'll
       be more careful when posting such things in the future, but in
       the meantime, could you lighten up a little on me, please?
       #Post#: 46331--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: Heron
       Date: November 29, 2021, 1:10 pm
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       This is the sort of info you had in mind, right?
  HTML https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/t-cells-recognize-recent-sars-cov-2-variants
       This is more like what I was thinking of:
  HTML https://jim.bmj.com/content/69/6/1253
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