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       #Post#: 51591--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: HeddyL2627
       Date: December 13, 2021, 2:02 pm
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       --- Quote from: Queenie link ---
       >
       > Isn't it weird, what feels OK and what doesn't?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       We've had a lot of discussions about that these past few years.
       Being amongst strangers largely in places where masks are
       required, or even where masks aren't required but it's less
       populated, is somehow less stressful than being near the MIL/FIL
       who have a revolving front door of conservative visitors, dinner
       parties, etc.
       I expected flying in May was going to be awful. It was
       stressful, but that wasn't because of my fellow travelers.
       #Post#: 51599--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: guest33
       Date: December 13, 2021, 2:15 pm
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       --- Quote from: Queenie link ---
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       > I found this interesting:
       >
  HTML https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
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       > Over fifty is where the mortality rate takes off. Diabetes and
       hypertension are dangerous comorbidities to have with covid.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Great, just great.  Ive got two days left.
       Scheduled my booster, and the flu shot for the day after I’m 50.
       #Post#: 51607--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: December 13, 2021, 2:22 pm
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       --- Quote from: MayaMia link ---
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       > [quote author=Queenie link=topic=548.msg51546#msg51546
       date=1639421353]
       > I found this interesting:
       >
  HTML https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
       >
       > Over fifty is where the mortality rate takes off. Diabetes and
       hypertension are dangerous comorbidities to have with covid.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Great, just great.  Ive got two days left.
       Scheduled my booster, and the flu shot for the day after I’m 50.
       [/quote]
       Heh.  This might be more reassuring.
  HTML https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/covid-pandemic-mortality-risk-estimator
       #Post#: 51610--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: guest33
       Date: December 13, 2021, 2:29 pm
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       --- Quote from: Queenie link ---
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       > Anybody adjusting their holiday plans?
       >
       > Last year we had a tiny Christmas, just Mr. Q and I.  The boys
       were at my mom's house because we were recovering from covid.
       >
       > This year we're invited to the giant Queenie clan thing.  I'm
       guessing 30 people and of course we'll all be inside crowded
       together.
       >
       > I do so want to see everyone.  I'm not in the least afraid for
       myself because, immunity.
       >
       > What I'm worried about is my mom.  She wants to see everyone
       too, and of course she's vaxxed and boosted, but she's also 86
       with a history of repeated bouts of pneumonia.
       >
       > So I asked her:  does she want to go to the big 'do?  Or would
       she rather have a quiet Christmas with just us?
       >
       > HER:  Well, what do *you* want?
       >
       > ME:  FOR GOD'S SAKE MOM, THIS IS NOT ABOUT ME!!!
       >
       > Anyway, jury is still out but I need to RSVP soon.  Ergh.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       We have adjusted again.  No holiday party again this year.  But
       we scheduled a short 4 night vacation starting the 26th.
       Unfortunately it is in major Trump haven, a town we used to live
       in, in the Florida panhandle.
       We debated going, but since I have to travel and meet with, and
       dine with, plenty of unvaccinated people for work, every week,
       it’s really hard to not travel for fun.
       We just had a sales meeting a couple weeks ago, for no reason
       other than the company would lose their deposit if it wasn’t
       held by the end of the year. Oh and the manager and owner missed
       us all, they wanted to get together for I have no idea reasons.
       My parents, my mum is diabetic, and has a nasty auto immune
       disease, but since she is cruising at least once a month since
       mid summer, I refuse to worry about her. She came in to visit
       last weekend, for a birthday dinner, and came straight from her
       latest cruise. At least she is boosted.
       My dad, he only got the first shot - I don’t know why.  Most
       likely due to my stepmother.  Again I refuse to worry about
       people who refuse basics.
       When you all talk about COVID stuff, I just read in wonder.
       Here, nope no COVID, no masking, no distancing, nothing.  It’s
       pretty much like it never happened except when they want to
       complain about Biden.
       I admit I rarely mask anymore.  If people at a place are
       actually wearing masks, I put mine on.  If the workers are not,
       then I don’t.
       #Post#: 51612--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: guest33
       Date: December 13, 2021, 2:34 pm
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       --- Quote from: Queenie link ---
       >
       > [quote author=MayaMia link=topic=548.msg51599#msg51599
       date=1639426548]
       > [quote author=Queenie link=topic=548.msg51546#msg51546
       date=1639421353]
       > I found this interesting:
       >
  HTML https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
       >
       > Over fifty is where the mortality rate takes off. Diabetes and
       hypertension are dangerous comorbidities to have with covid.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Great, just great.  Ive got two days left.
       Scheduled my booster, and the flu shot for the day after I’m 50.
       [/quote]
       Heh.  This might be more reassuring.
  HTML https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/covid-pandemic-mortality-risk-estimator
       [/quote]
       Thanks. That’s actually pretty decent.
       I was being a bit tongue in cheek.  😂
       Honestly going on two years of this now, considering where I
       live, considering my travel for work, considering my customer
       base (majority anti vax) I’d be shocked if I haven’t been
       exposed/caught it already.
       #Post#: 51613--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: December 13, 2021, 2:36 pm
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       --- Quote from: MayaMia link ---
       >
       >
       >
       > Thanks. That’s actually pretty decent.
       >
       > I was being a bit tongue in cheek.  😂
       >
       > Honestly going on two years of this now, considering where I
       live, considering my travel for work, considering my customer
       base (majority anti vax) I’d be shocked if I haven’t been
       exposed/caught it already.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I know you were teasing.
       With any luck you've been repeatedly exposed and have therefore
       boosted your immunity many times.  Perhaps you are invincible!
       I made that up.
       #Post#: 51760--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: LesserGoddess
       Date: December 14, 2021, 9:17 am
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       I don't understand this, but maybe Queeenie does
  HTML https://twitter.com/kakape/status/1470661651842142210
       *graph re
       exposure to Omicron
       #Post#: 51771--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: December 14, 2021, 10:01 am
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       I'd love to see that actual study.
       #Post#: 52042--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: PalomaBlanca
       Date: December 14, 2021, 9:16 pm
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       I know that everyone has a favorite vendor for things like masks
       and gloves, etc.
       For those of us not in the healthcare field, I saw a site
       written up on the WaPo.  It's called the "KN95 Project" and they
       sell verified KN95 masks and other equipment (like gloves, face
       shields, etc).  Some other sites get spotty, and thought this
       might be of use.  :)
       I've been pleased with their service, but check it out yourself.
  HTML https://www.projectn95.org/
       The WaPo article which highlights the organization:
  HTML https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/08/21/n95-kn95-masks-online-shopping-tips/
       #Post#: 52075--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New covid variant - huge evolutionary leap
   DIR By: guest33
       Date: December 15, 2021, 4:08 am
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       --- Quote from: PalomaBlanca link ---
       >
       > I know that everyone has a favorite vendor for things like
       masks and gloves, etc.
       > For those of us not in the healthcare field, I saw a site
       written up on the WaPo.  It's called the "KN95 Project" and they
       sell verified KN95 masks and other equipment (like gloves, face
       shields, etc).  Some other sites get spotty, and thought this
       might be of use.  :)
       > I've been pleased with their service, but check it out
       yourself.
       >
       >
  HTML https://www.projectn95.org/
       >
       > The WaPo article which highlights the organization:
  HTML https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/08/21/n95-kn95-masks-online-shopping-tips/
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       This reminds me of something I saw a couple days ago at the
       store. A very elderly man was wearing a KN95, down around his
       chin.  Not even covering his mouth let alone his nose.
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