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Re: How to persuade daughter to take SAT again
By: CatDancing Date: August 26, 2021, 7:21 pm
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[quote author=kkt link=topic=54.msg1221#msg1221 date=1629151530]
[quote author=LesserGoddess link=topic=54.msg1203#msg1203
date=1629150837]
Funny thing is, she tests well for English but HATED her English
class. AND she has trouble, at least for classes, writing
essays. At least the way the teacher wants - doing drafts. She
does the whole thing at the last minute.
[/quote]
It's great that she can write a decent essay all in one go,
however that means there will be a learning curve when she gets
to college term papers that are too long to keep the whole
organization in her head and really need a draft or two.
[/quote]
Yes, indeed, she will need to learn to write drafts -- and
multiple versions of them. One of my requirements for
graduation was to write a REALLY EXTENSIVE research paper, and
we had two classes in our final year, one fall and one spring,
to usher us through the process. I don't recall how many drafts
were required, but I was working on one version or another all
damned year. The way the curriculum was designed also made sure
we'd written other papers (term papers and whatnot) that were
substantial pieces of work, with at least two drafts required
for each.
It's a skill that can be learned, certainly, but I hope she
doesn't go into the planning/writing process with the
predetermination that she's going to hate every minute of it.
Part of what I get paid to do is to write rough drafts on things
that are then rewritten, refined, and polished before being
declared finished.
#Post#: 10597--------------------------------------------------
Re: How to persuade daughter to take SAT again
By: SewBabe79 Date: September 2, 2021, 12:45 am
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Oh, I have BTDT with this and have come through on the other
side!
Whether or not your D *needs* to retake depends on her list of
schools and if she's chasing merit money/honors programs. The
top publics in VA do want great scores, and if you are OOS for
VA, it's even tougher.
Most colleges will take the highest score from verbal and math,
even if they were achieved on separate sittings. In addition,
lots of schools are going test-optional again this year, but
with a perfect verbal, I would submit the score. If her math is
within 100 points of her verbal, and her grades are reflective
of her test scores, she's FINE.
If she wants to try to bring up her math, College Board used to
have an SAT Question of the Day via email. There's probably an
app for that by now. If she needs more of the foundational math,
get a College Board SAT test book and do a math section or two
on the weekends, then dissect any wrong answers. From what
you're saying, her math could use minor tweaking as opposed to
trying to learn a year of pre-calc by October for the SAT. I
wouldn't spend time/money on tutors at this stage. There's
enough parent-child sturm und drang senior year already.
For my verbal kid, simply completing another year of math (esp
pre-calc) led to a bump in scores. First SAT was good, but he
was disappointed in his verbal because he'd nailed it on the
PSAT. Did zero prep for the second SAT because it was
immediately after AP exams junior year. Both scores increased
the second time, and math was higher than his verbal, to his
utter amazement. He felt his scores would be competitive
everywhere he was interested in attending, and that was that.
(P.S. It worked.)
Her goals this year are to spend time on ECs, do well in
challenging classes, spend time with friends and to make those
application essays sing.
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Re: How to persuade daughter to take SAT again
By: kkt Date: September 2, 2021, 1:27 am
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[quote author=SewBabe79 link=topic=54.msg10597#msg10597
date=1630561542]
Oh, I have BTDT with this and have come through on the other
side!
Whether or not your D *needs* to retake depends on her list of
schools and if she's chasing merit money/honors programs. The
top publics in VA do want great scores, and if you are OOS for
VA, it's even tougher.
Most colleges will take the highest score from verbal and math,
even if they were achieved on separate sittings. In addition,
lots of schools are going test-optional again this year, but
with a perfect verbal, I would submit the score. If her math is
within 100 points of her verbal, and her grades are reflective
of her test scores, she's FINE.
If she wants to try to bring up her math, College Board used to
have an SAT Question of the Day via email. There's probably an
app for that by now. If she needs more of the foundational math,
get a College Board SAT test book and do a math section or two
on the weekends, then dissect any wrong answers. From what
you're saying, her math could use minor tweaking as opposed to
trying to learn a year of pre-calc by October for the SAT. I
wouldn't spend time/money on tutors at this stage. There's
enough parent-child sturm und drang senior year already.
For my verbal kid, simply completing another year of math (esp
pre-calc) led to a bump in scores. First SAT was good, but he
was disappointed in his verbal because he'd nailed it on the
PSAT. Did zero prep for the second SAT because it was
immediately after AP exams junior year. Both scores increased
the second time, and math was higher than his verbal, to his
utter amazement. He felt his scores would be competitive
everywhere he was interested in attending, and that was that.
(P.S. It worked.)
Her goals this year are to spend time on ECs, do well in
challenging classes, spend time with friends and to make those
application essays sing.
[/quote]
I'm glad spending time with friends is at least on the list!
High school friendships often don't survive college, but they
should still be enjoyed while they last.
#Post#: 11139--------------------------------------------------
Re: How to persuade daughter to take SAT again
By: SewBabe79 Date: September 3, 2021, 12:35 am
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Yes, the friendships will all change, and some won't survive a
year from now. Access to friends is a better alternative than
the well-known alternative known as "soiling the nest" that
frequently affects the parents of seniors who are so ready to
leave for college.
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