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Re: How to persuade daughter to take SAT again
DIR By: LesserGoddess
Date: August 16, 2021, 3:17 pm
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--- Quote from: Thetis099 link ---
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> I don't know how to motivate a teen. Not in my wheelhouse.
But, maybe this will help?
>
> I did not take the SAT in high school even though I was a good
student. I took my SAT at age 28, started college at 29 (in the
early 2000s), graduated in three years, then continued on to
graduate school for a Master's after that. Both of my degrees
are STEM. I also scored perfectly on the verbal portion of the
SAT but only slight above average on the math. I did not take
it again. I didn't have a super meaty application as an
undergraduate either and I had no problem getting in to the
state school of my choice. It was competitive enough. I knew
people who had been wait listed for my school.
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> Maybe her score is good enough?
>
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Thanks for the perspective, very interesting. Yes, maybe her
score is enough.
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Re: How to persuade daughter to take SAT again
DIR By: LesserGoddess
Date: August 16, 2021, 3:49 pm
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THANKS everyone for your suggestions.
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Re: How to persuade daughter to take SAT again
DIR By: kkt
Date: August 16, 2021, 4:20 pm
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Parents have to accept that they have limited powers of
persuasion with children in their late teens. Try to talk to
her as if she was an adult, because she almost is. Lay out the
pros and cons as best you understand them and then allow her to
make her own decision. She will anyway - if she thinks it's
stupid, she might just blow off the math cram sessions or even
blow off the SAT retest.
My child got a mediocre math score, did study sessions with a
tutor for 6 months or so, and got a math score 100 points
higher. That's a typical result for students who did no special
study before taking the SAT the first time and then doing guided
studying for a while and retaking it.
(I'll spare you my opinion of the value of college board tests
in general and how much they favor students from at least upper
middle class families....)
#Post#: 1165--------------------------------------------------
Re: How to persuade daughter to take SAT again
DIR By: Buckleup Buttercup
Date: August 16, 2021, 4:27 pm
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I am a math teacher. I’d say the perfect English is enough. If
anything, she will be taking placement exams for both English
and math at whatever college she goes to. Unless, she’s AP or
tests out somehow. I’d concentrate on those. She can place out
of courses.
The math she needs for science is not necessarily “pure” math -
as I call it - but more like using some math to learn sciences.
Problem solving and the like.
You can’t really do any of the other subjects really well
without good English skills; I think she will be better than
fine.
I am impressed. Perfect English. That is something to
celebrate!!
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Re: How to persuade daughter to take SAT again
DIR By: LesserGoddess
Date: August 16, 2021, 4:53 pm
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--- Quote from: Buckleup Buttercup link ---
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> I am a math teacher. I’d say the perfect English is enough. If
anything, she will be taking placement exams for both English
and math at whatever college she goes to. Unless, she’s AP or
tests out somehow. I’d concentrate on those. She can place out
of courses.
>
> The math she needs for science is not necessarily “pure” math
- as I call it - but more like using some math to learn
sciences. Problem solving and the like.
>
> You can’t really do any of the other subjects really well
without good English skills; I think she will be better than
fine.
>
> I am impressed. Perfect English. That is something to
celebrate!!
>
> Thanks Buttercup. It is something to celebrate! Funny thing
is, she tests well for English but HATED her English class. AND
she has trouble, at least for classes, writing essays. At least
the way the teacher wants - doing drafts. She does the whole
thing at the last minute.
>
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Re: How to persuade daughter to take SAT again
DIR By: LesserGoddess
Date: August 16, 2021, 4:55 pm
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I'm not sure what I'm doing where the quote is inside the box
and my reply is too, or when my reply is outside. Please excuse
that, I have no idea what I'm doing...
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Re: How to persuade daughter to take SAT again
DIR By: Queenie
Date: August 16, 2021, 4:57 pm
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The trick is to look a the html tags. Make sure whatever you
type goes *after* the (/quote) except brackets instead of
parens.
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Re: How to persuade daughter to take SAT again
DIR By: kkt
Date: August 16, 2021, 5:05 pm
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--- Quote from: LesserGoddess link ---
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> Thanks Buttercup. It is something to celebrate! Funny thing
is, she tests well for English but HATED her English class. AND
she has trouble, at least for classes, writing essays. At least
the way the teacher wants - doing drafts. She does the whole
thing at the last minute.
>
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It's great that she can write a decent essay all in one go,
however that means there will be a learning curve when she gets
to college term papers that are too long to keep the whole
organization in her head and really need a draft or two.
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Re: How to persuade daughter to take SAT again
DIR By: LesserGoddess
Date: August 16, 2021, 5:58 pm
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--- Quote from: kkt link ---
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> [quote author=LesserGoddess link=topic=54.msg1203#msg1203
date=1629150837]
> Thanks Buttercup. It is something to celebrate! Funny thing
is, she tests well for English but HATED her English class. AND
she has trouble, at least for classes, writing essays. At least
the way the teacher wants - doing drafts. She does the whole
thing at the last minute.
>
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It's great that she can write a decent essay all in one go,
however that means there will be a learning curve when she gets
to college term papers that are too long to keep the whole
organization in her head and really need a draft or two.
[/quote]
You are 100 % right. For YEARS the teachers have been insisting
on drafts and she just...won't do it. First year will be a bear.
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Re: How to persuade daughter to take SAT again
DIR By: nsw11
Date: August 16, 2021, 9:08 pm
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I had a close to perfect score in English and a good but lower
score in math on the SATs. I had no trouble getting into a good
state school with a very strong science program or into graduate
schools (biological science degrees). I'm getting close to
retirement and I've used good writing skills a lot more often
than math skills.
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