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#Post#: 1022--------------------------------------------------
How to persuade daughter to take SAT again
By: LesserGoddess Date: August 16, 2021, 2:19 pm
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So, my daughter took the SAT in June? (or May? time blurs) and
did pretty well. She didn't do a lot of prep and I think she
could get a higher score on the math section. She wants to major
in a science so it seems like a good idea to get her math score
up.
She refuses. She feels the score is "good enough" and she got a
perfect on the English section.
Mind you, this is a child that is so quiet in class that it's
unlikely she'll be able to get two references, and her grades
were down last year while they were online.
She has a 3.9 grade average but in Virginia going to certain
schools is highly competitive to say the least.
Anyone got any ideas on things I can say to persuade her?
#Post#: 1032--------------------------------------------------
Re: How to persuade daughter to take SAT again
By: Queenie Date: August 16, 2021, 2:25 pm
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I'm afraid that I have never had any success getting a teen to
do anything I wanted them to do that they didn't want to do. I
mean, except for stuff I could in fact make them do. But my
kids, especially Oldest, tended to stonewall hard any time I
tried to nudge them in any direction.
My suggestion would be to get someone else to suggest it. A
guidance counselor, or if a friend has a mom whose opinion is
held in high regard, or a favorite teacher or get someone to
link to a website that suggests it or a website of a desired
school that suggests it.
FWIW I have a low level career in science. My GRE scores were
off the charts in the verbal section, not off the charts in
quantitative, and the only subject test available to me at the
time was biology and I killed it, but UCLA did not come pounding
down my door to invite me into their PhD program. Test scores
are very nice to have if you can get them.
Have you spoken with her guidance counselor?
#Post#: 1035--------------------------------------------------
Re: How to persuade daughter to take SAT again
By: iamnotarobot Date: August 16, 2021, 2:27 pm
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Maybe a dumb question, it's been a long time since the SATs for
me and my stepkids didn't take them. If she retakes does she
have to worry about possibly not scoring perfectly on the
english section this time? Can you retake just part?
I was a science major, worked as a researcher before private
industry, and given the chance again I would have made sure my
'good enough' math was much, much more solid before university
classes so I agree with what you're saying
#Post#: 1044--------------------------------------------------
Re: How to persuade daughter to take SAT again
By: animaniactoo Date: August 16, 2021, 2:35 pm
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Is there a college counselor at her school? That's who I would
tap for info about this for BOTH of you. That person is best
positioned to know whether it's really "good enough" or "good
enough" for the lower range of schools she's thinking about but
maybe not the one she really wants to go to. Does it make a
difference in potential scholarship money?
These are the questions you want to have some solid answers to
as a question of WHY she should take it again, rather than your
feeling that she can do better and it might be useful.
How does she do with living with her decisions/adapting when she
finds she's gotten something wrong in general?
If it turns out that she's right about her view as far as the
college counselor is concerned, are you going to be able to
accept that and let her make this decision as part of letting go
and letting her make the important decisions about her own
life/choices?
If it turns out that she's wrong... and won't be convinced to
try... personally, I would probably let it go and start doing
some research now on what her backup plan might be just so that
I'm available to give advice if she's floundering. N.B.: Usually
this means that I say "Why don't you try checking out info on
XYZ?" secure in the knowledge that XYZ is a legitimate thing
that she will be able to find info about on her own if she does
a basic Google search.
#Post#: 1048--------------------------------------------------
Re: How to persuade daughter to take SAT again
By: Cairn terrier Date: August 16, 2021, 2:38 pm
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My son just turned 19, so I’m still dealing with similar things.
It gets really hard when they’re old enough not to do what you
know they should.
I guess I’d wonder if she’s worried about doing worse the second
time, and if that would be a problem if she does? Are both
scores reported to colleges, or only the highest? If you think
it’s really going to be helpful, then I’d go with bribery.
Something she really wants in exchange for a better score. If
you’d rather, think of it as an incentive to align your goals.
#Post#: 1080--------------------------------------------------
Re: How to persuade daughter to take SAT again
By: Thetis099 Date: August 16, 2021, 3:07 pm
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I don't know how to motivate a teen. Not in my wheelhouse.
But, maybe this will help?
I did not take the SAT in high school even though I was a good
student. I took my SAT at age 28, started college at 29 (in the
early 2000s), graduated in three years, then continued on to
graduate school for a Master's after that. Both of my degrees
are STEM. I also scored perfectly on the verbal portion of the
SAT but only slight above average on the math. I did not take
it again. I didn't have a super meaty application as an
undergraduate either and I had no problem getting in to the
state school of my choice. It was competitive enough. I knew
people who had been wait listed for my school.
Maybe her score is good enough?
#Post#: 1084--------------------------------------------------
Re: How to persuade daughter to take SAT again
By: LesserGoddess Date: August 16, 2021, 3:10 pm
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[quote author=Queenie link=topic=54.msg1032#msg1032
date=1629141943]
I'm afraid that I have never had any success getting a teen to
do anything I wanted them to do that they didn't want to do. I
mean, except for stuff I could in fact make them do. But my
kids, especially Oldest, tended to stonewall hard any time I
tried to nudge them in any direction.
My suggestion would be to get someone else to suggest it. A
guidance counselor, or if a friend has a mom whose opinion is
held in high regard, or a favorite teacher or get someone to
link to a website that suggests it or a website of a desired
school that suggests it.
FWIW I have a low level career in science. My GRE scores were
off the charts in the verbal section, not off the charts in
quantitative, and the only subject test available to me at the
time was biology and I killed it, but UCLA did not come pounding
down my door to invite me into their PhD program. Test scores
are very nice to have if you can get them.
Have you spoken with her guidance counselor?
[/quote]
Good suggestion. She might listen to her counselor. She got a 4
in AP Biology, which is good. 5 is top score.
#Post#: 1089--------------------------------------------------
Re: How to persuade daughter to take SAT again
By: LesserGoddess Date: August 16, 2021, 3:12 pm
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[quote author=iamnotarobot link=topic=54.msg1035#msg1035
date=1629142023]
Maybe a dumb question, it's been a long time since the SATs for
me and my stepkids didn't take them. If she retakes does she
have to worry about possibly not scoring perfectly on the
english section this time? Can you retake just part?
I was a science major, worked as a researcher before private
industry, and given the chance again I would have made sure my
'good enough' math was much, much more solid before university
classes so I agree with what you're saying
[/quote]
She'd have to take the whole thing again. She might not score a
perfect for the English but that doesn't matter so much with
science I assume. But she is a perfectionist so that perfect
holds a lot of sway.
#Post#: 1092--------------------------------------------------
Re: How to persuade daughter to take SAT again
By: LesserGoddess Date: August 16, 2021, 3:13 pm
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[quote author=Cairn terrier link=topic=54.msg1048#msg1048
date=1629142684]
My son just turned 19, so I’m still dealing with similar things.
It gets really hard when they’re old enough not to do what you
know they should.
I guess I’d wonder if she’s worried about doing worse the second
time, and if that would be a problem if she does? Are both
scores reported to colleges, or only the highest? If you think
it’s really going to be helpful, then I’d go with bribery.
Something she really wants in exchange for a better score. If
you’d rather, think of it as an incentive to align your goals.
[/quote]
I think the highest score. I have bribed her before but she
won't accept anything this time
#Post#: 1096--------------------------------------------------
Re: How to persuade daughter to take SAT again
By: LesserGoddess Date: August 16, 2021, 3:16 pm
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[quote author=animaniactoo link=topic=54.msg1044#msg1044
date=1629142530]
Is there a college counselor at her school? That's who I would
tap for info about this for BOTH of you. That person is best
positioned to know whether it's really "good enough" or "good
enough" for the lower range of schools she's thinking about but
maybe not the one she really wants to go to. Does it make a
difference in potential scholarship money?
These are the questions you want to have some solid answers to
as a question of WHY she should take it again, rather than your
feeling that she can do better and it might be useful.
How does she do with living with her decisions/adapting when she
finds she's gotten something wrong in general?
If it turns out that she's right about her view as far as the
college counselor is concerned, are you going to be able to
accept that and let her make this decision as part of letting go
and letting her make the important decisions about her own
life/choices?[/quote]
You're right about checking with the counselor.
She's prone to catastrophic thinking despite several months with
a psychiatrist a couple years ago. If she doesn't get into her
favorite schools I'm concerned that she'll just throw up her
hands about college in general. I don't think ultimately she
would be happy that she didn't go.
Yes, I think if the counselor concurs I'd accept that. Honestly,
I'll accept it if she continues to say she won't take it. I am
worried she'll regret it if it means she doesn't get into the
school she wants to go.
[quote author=animaniactoo link=topic=54.msg1044#msg1044
date=1629142530]
If it turns out that she's wrong... and won't be convinced to
try... personally, I would probably let it go and start doing
some research now on what her backup plan might be just so that
I'm available to give advice if she's floundering. N.B.: Usually
this means that I say "Why don't you try checking out info on
XYZ?" secure in the knowledge that XYZ is a legitimate thing
that she will be able to find info about on her own if she does
a basic Google search.[/quote]
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