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       Genetic drive to overeat found in labradors and humans
       By: Thetis099 Date: March 7, 2025, 11:25 am
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       Yup.  Makes sense.
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       Re: Genetic drive to overeat found in labradors and humans
       By: MidwestmikkiJ Date: March 7, 2025, 11:47 am
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       This adds more evidence to the idea that maintaining an “ideal”
       weight is more complicated than people think.
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       Re: Genetic drive to overeat found in labradors and humans
       By: farmgirl Date: March 7, 2025, 12:46 pm
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       [quote author=MidwestmikkiJ link=topic=3412.msg309849#msg309849
       date=1741369662]
       This adds more evidence to the idea that maintaining an “ideal”
       weight is more complicated than people think.
       [/quote]
       Also, although unrelated, is the idea that it's simple to lose
       weight by eating less and exercising more - because there are
       other factors affecting metabolism, it's not entirely about
       calories in and calories out - at least for some of us.
       I experimented on myself when I was trying (and finally
       succeeded) in losing 30 pounds, many years ago.  Calculating my
       alleged calorie requirement and reducing my calories did NOT
       result in weight loss, even after several weeks of significantly
       reduced calories.  I was absolutely honest about my intake and
       was getting my normal exercise at the time but my weight did not
       change.  Reducing my carb intake dramatically and upping my
       protein intake worked, although very slowly.  But it left me
       with the unfortunate "side effect" of craving some carbs (to
       this day) that I'd never really cared about prior to that diet.
       At this point I can maintain my weight, although I have to be
       careful.
       I also had an issue with inflammation causing water retention
       back then.  When I realized I was reacting to wheat and
       eliminated it from my diet, I dropped 10 pounds in a little over
       a week - about a pound a day.  And I substituted rice for bread,
       so there was no calorie reduction.
       I am sure there are other factors at play, I just don't know
       what they are.
       #Post#: 309923--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Genetic drive to overeat found in labradors and humans
       By: MidwestmikkiJ Date: March 7, 2025, 2:08 pm
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       [quote author=farmgirl link=topic=3412.msg309876#msg309876
       date=1741373165]
       [quote author=MidwestmikkiJ link=topic=3412.msg309849#msg309849
       date=1741369662]
       This adds more evidence to the idea that maintaining an “ideal”
       weight is more complicated than people think.
       [/quote]
       Also, although unrelated, is the idea that it's simple to lose
       weight by eating less and exercising more - because there are
       other factors affecting metabolism, it's not entirely about
       calories in and calories out - at least for some of us.
       I experimented on myself when I was trying (and finally
       succeeded) in losing 30 pounds, many years ago.  Calculating my
       alleged calorie requirement and reducing my calories did NOT
       result in weight loss, even after several weeks of significantly
       reduced calories.  I was absolutely honest about my intake and
       was getting my normal exercise at the time but my weight did not
       change.  Reducing my carb intake dramatically and upping my
       protein intake worked, although very slowly.  But it left me
       with the unfortunate "side effect" of craving some carbs (to
       this day) that I'd never really cared about prior to that diet.
       At this point I can maintain my weight, although I have to be
       careful.
       I also had an issue with inflammation causing water retention
       back then.  When I realized I was reacting to wheat and
       eliminated it from my diet, I dropped 10 pounds in a little over
       a week - about a pound a day.  And I substituted rice for bread,
       so there was no calorie reduction.
       I am sure there are other factors at play, I just don't know
       what they are.
       [/quote]
       I never had a sweet tooth growing up. Then I did Weight Watchers
       in my 30s. I’ve definitely wanted more cake and cookies since.
       #Post#: 309924--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Genetic drive to overeat found in labradors and humans
       By: AbidingDudev4.1 Date: March 7, 2025, 2:14 pm
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       This seems like a direct attack [member=46]LabPartner[/member]
       Lol
       Also that GIF is great. Imma gonna steal it someday.
       #Post#: 309954--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Genetic drive to overeat found in labradors and humans
       By: farmgirl Date: March 7, 2025, 3:50 pm
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       [quote author=AbidingDudev4.1
       link=topic=3412.msg309924#msg309924 date=1741378455]
       This seems like a direct attack [member=46]LabPartner[/member]
       Lol
       Also that GIF is great. Imma gonna steal it someday.
       [/quote]
       When we had a lab, I read that you had to be careful because
       they were known to eat dishtowels that smelled like food.  Which
       of course required surgery.
       I was careful and my lab never ate a towel.  But he did eat part
       of a bar of Dove soap - fortunately while he was still being
       kenneled.  After eating the soap he ate a bunch of grass.  We
       went out to dinner and came home to a sick dog and foamy sudsy
       puke full of grass all over the insides and the walls of his
       kennel.  I took the dog outside, my husband carried the kennel
       out to the driveway and hosed it down.
       I didn't realize we couldn't have soap in the bathroom.  He also
       learned how to open the covered bathroom waste basket with his
       snout - so he could get at anything in there that appeared
       tasty.
       Yes, he was always hungry...
       #Post#: 309965--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Genetic drive to overeat found in labradors and humans
       By: Aardtacha Date: March 7, 2025, 4:32 pm
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       Well, much about Lena is explained -- although Bess is really
       our gobbler.  Mostly, I suspect, because if she doesn't Lena
       will steal her food, too.
       #Post#: 309970--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Genetic drive to overeat found in labradors and humans
       By: LabPartner Date: March 7, 2025, 4:53 pm
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       Ziva once ate an entire 9"by13" tres leches cake. Sweetest
       smelling vomit ever.
       #Post#: 309989--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Genetic drive to overeat found in labradors and humans
       By: Thetis099 Date: March 7, 2025, 6:24 pm
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       My Booger, the choco Labradog, gobbled his food.  He was
       overweight at first, then my vet put him on a measured amount
       lower calorie chow and I started taking him with me when I ran.
       His weight was normal in no time but he was always hungry.  I
       timed his gobbling out of curiosity.  He could eat his twice
       daily bowl of dry chow in less than 45 seconds.
       He didn't chew.  Once he accidentally sucked a chunk of dry chow
       down the wrong pipe and horked up a mouth full of that rained
       down and bounced across the kitchen floor.  He then hoovered the
       scattered chow at an amazing speed!
       Booger also ate the vegetables I grew in my tiny garden when he
       thought nobody was watching.  He was particularly fond of green
       bell peppers and would search for just the right one to pluck
       and eat.
       He was such a funny beastie and the best dog ever!
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