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       #Post#: 17306--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live CHAT 09/17
   DIR By: floridafan15
       Date: September 17, 2021, 12:41 pm
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       Here's another reminder that I really need to read my John
       Updike books. No idea what the context is for CH's comment.
       #Post#: 17307--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live CHAT 09/17
   DIR By: acl-ny
       Date: September 17, 2021, 12:42 pm
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       --- Quote from: Lady_Lessa link ---
       >
       > [quote author=northbayteky link=topic=312.msg17230#msg17230
       date=1631896734]
       > [Quote=]I find it hostile to have someone keep their camera
       off [/Quote]
       >
       >
       > Really a stupid reason to think this is hostility. Unclench.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'd hate to live in their house.  I for one, hasn't a single
       blank wall in my apartment.
       When I had a Skype job interview, I found an area that didn't
       reveal too much, but my standard location has some nice, but
       very religious art work in the background.
       [/quote]
       I set up in front of our fireplace. Maybe move a plant so it's
       in the corner of the screen.
       #Post#: 17308--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live CHAT 09/17
   DIR By: Chicagogirl22
       Date: September 17, 2021, 12:45 pm
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       --- Quote from: floridafan15 link ---
       >
       > Here's another reminder that I really need to read my John
       Updike books. No idea what the context is for CH's comment.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That reference went right over my head.
       #Post#: 17309--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live CHAT 09/17
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: September 17, 2021, 12:45 pm
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       --- Quote from: acl-ny link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Lady_Lessa link=topic=312.msg17240#msg17240
       date=1631897109]
       > [quote author=northbayteky link=topic=312.msg17230#msg17230
       date=1631896734]
       > [Quote=]I find it hostile to have someone keep their camera
       off [/Quote]
       >
       >
       > Really a stupid reason to think this is hostility. Unclench.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'd hate to live in their house.  I for one, hasn't a single
       blank wall in my apartment.
       When I had a Skype job interview, I found an area that didn't
       reveal too much, but my standard location has some nice, but
       very religious art work in the background.
       [/quote]
       I set up in front of our fireplace. Maybe move a plant so it's
       in the corner of the screen.
       [/quote]  In ZOOM and Teams it's trivially easy to pick a
       background that is not your physical actual background.
       #Post#: 17310--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live CHAT 09/17
   DIR By: acl-ny
       Date: September 17, 2021, 12:47 pm
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       --- Quote from: ManyHats link ---
       >
       > Does anyone else wonder if the neighbors are coming over a lot
       more often than they would when LW's relatives are home? I
       wouldn't be rude to them, but I'd say something along the lines
       of what Hax suggested.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Did relatives tell her in advance that the neighbors come over
       and how often?  That's a pretty big oopsie if they didn't.  Hate
       to say it, but I'd also be concerned about liability in the
       housesitter's position.  If someone gets hurt, sure they sue the
       homeowners, but they also could, and likely would, sue the
       sitter since she was responsible at the time for maintaining the
       property in a safe manner.
       I also wondered if she can get in touch with her relatives, let
       them know that this much pool use is making things difficult for
       her and try to get permission to tell the neighbors no, or to at
       the very least limit the use to convenient, and reduced, times
       for chatter.
       #Post#: 17311--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live CHAT 09/17
   DIR By: acl-ny
       Date: September 17, 2021, 12:50 pm
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       --- Quote from: BethinDC2AZ link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Chicagogirl22 link=topic=312.msg17266#msg17266
       date=1631898649]
       > [quote author=BethinDC2AZ link=topic=312.msg17263#msg17263
       date=1631898450]
       > [quote author=Chicagogirl22 link=topic=312.msg17259#msg17259
       date=1631898300]
       > [quote author=BethinDC2AZ link=topic=312.msg17257#msg17257
       date=1631898231]
       > I've house sat for my parents. I can't imagine telling their
       neighbors to fuck off.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The LW took on too much work with no compensation and that is
       the problem.
       [/quote]
       She wants the pool by herself and she's throwing a temper
       tantrum about having to share.
       [/quote]
       I think it’s a cumulative impact situation. The LW is house
       sitting for 4 dogs, cleaning, and organizing for a month. For
       free.
       The neighbors at the pool are easier to be mad at than her
       relatives so that’s where this is going.
       [/quote]
       Eh. I still think she's just pissed she hasn't gotten solo pool
       time.
       [/quote]
       Are they using the bathroom and messing up the house?  Leaving
       more stuff for Chatter to clean up after?  No, I don't think
       it's just about solo use of the pool.  It is an imposition on
       chatter who is not the homeowner, isn't friends with the
       neighbors.  The neighbors can swim someplace else while the
       homeowners are away.
       #Post#: 17312--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live CHAT 09/17
   DIR By: ManyHats
       Date: September 17, 2021, 12:50 pm
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       --- Quote from: Chicagogirl22 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=floridafan15 link=topic=312.msg17306#msg17306
       date=1631900508]
       > Here's another reminder that I really need to read my John
       Updike books. No idea what the context is for CH's comment.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That reference went right over my head.
       [/quote]
       I read the book so long ago that it went right over my head,
       too.
       #Post#: 17313--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live CHAT 09/17
   DIR By: Lady_Lessa
       Date: September 17, 2021, 12:50 pm
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       --- Quote from: Queenie link ---
       >
       > In ZOOM and Teams it's trivially easy to pick a background
       that is not your physical actual background.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       We are starting to do Teams more at work, since our new owners
       are based elsewhere, and I have had fun with the different
       backgrounds.  (But had to tell my cubical mate to move it, when
       he was on a work call-cell phone and I was in a meeting.)
       #Post#: 17314--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live CHAT 09/17
   DIR By: candle96_2021
       Date: September 17, 2021, 12:51 pm
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       --- Quote from: Chicagogirl22 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=floridafan15 link=topic=312.msg17301#msg17301
       date=1631899848]
       > [quote author=Chicagogirl22 link=topic=312.msg17287#msg17287
       date=1631899410]
       > Coming in hot on the coffee shop letter:
       >
       > I think a big tip is in order. I also think it’s extremely
       weird the coffee shop employee remained open 2 extra hours
       without saying anything.
       >
       > I would not make this the litmus test for a friends character.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Makes me wonder what else the employee will let you get away
       with. Play with the espresso machine? Make change in the cash
       register?
       [/quote]
       I don’t know why, but this particular letter isn’t sending me
       down the “slippery slope” train of thought.
       I think it’s weird but not a character indictment.
       [/quote]
       I kind of get the philosophical debate of this subject, but
       actually having an ongoing argument  with a colleague about it?
       Not even a good friend or spouse? That seems weird to me. Let it
       go.
       And having worked at a restaurant where I was the one who had to
       stay until the last customer left, I think saying absolutely
       nothing for 2 HOURS after you've closed is incredibly strange.
       #Post#: 17315--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live CHAT 09/17
   DIR By: candle96_2021
       Date: September 17, 2021, 12:54 pm
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       --- Quote from: Chicagogirl22 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Queenie link=topic=312.msg17231#msg17231
       date=1631896834]
       > Oh who the hell cares if they turn their camera on?
       >
       > I mean, besides LW.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       This is one of those letters where I feel like the beginning of
       Nip/Tuck.
       Tell me, what do you REALLY dislike about your co-workers?
       Because it ain’t this.
       [/quote]
       OMG, such a good show. At least the first few seasons, and then
       it went off the rails.
       But on a related note, if I keep my camera off it's because I
       have done absolutely nothing to improve my appearance since I
       woke up. I don't need my colleagues seeing me look like that.
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