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       #Post#: 17295--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live CHAT 09/17
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: September 17, 2021, 12:26 pm
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       I think it was lovely of the coffee shop worker to let Friend
       work, if that's actually allowed, which I can't understand how
       it could be.
       Does anybody but me wonder if Friend's prickly response is in
       part a reaction to a scolding from LW?
       LW, try honey instead of vinegar.
       #Post#: 17296--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live CHAT 09/17
   DIR By: Chicagogirl22
       Date: September 17, 2021, 12:27 pm
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       --- Quote from: badpoodle link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Chicagogirl22 link=topic=312.msg17279#msg17279
       date=1631899113]
       > [quote author=Queenie link=topic=312.msg17271#msg17271
       date=1631898822]
       > And again Hax goes straight to eleven/GoF with a husband who
       sounds like he's a doink.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I zoned out during that question because it sounded like a
       vent/garbage collecting against her husband.
       I think they need to get an overnight sitter and talk less and
       fuck more.
       [/quote]
       This is also good advice for 90% of Hax letters. Adjust
       expectations, talk less, fuck more
       [/quote]
       Dark humor ahead:
       I was supposed to go to New Orleans with my FWB which is
       obviously canceled. Yesterday I was getting my refunds for my
       plane tickets and made mention of it on my family group chat.
       Patrick was like “what refunds are you getting? Can you FEMA
       dick?”
       #Post#: 17298--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live CHAT 09/17
   DIR By: ManyHats
       Date: September 17, 2021, 12:29 pm
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       I just Googled dog-sitting costs in our area and got this:
       The hourly starting pay for Baltimore dog sitters averages out
       at $13 an hour, but if you need holiday, weekend, or overnight
       care, that rate can double or triple. The average cost for local
       dog sitting agencies is $70 a night for two walks and 12 hours
       of company.
       Bet it's a lot more expensive for 4 dogs.
       #Post#: 17299--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live CHAT 09/17
   DIR By: northbayteky
       Date: September 17, 2021, 12:29 pm
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       --- Quote from: GenuineKosherDill link ---
       > ...
       >
       > It sounds like the homeowner likes to have people there and
       would be angry if LW turned them away.  Which is fine if the
       homeowner is...home.   I would not expect a pet-sitter to have
       to interact with complete strangers day after day.
       >
       > Makes you wonder why none of the neighbors are doing the pet
       sitting, if they are on the spot so much.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I have been wondering if the homeowner is even aware that their
       neighbors are basically taking control of the pool use and
       expecting the dog sitter to maintain the pool for them.
       #Post#: 17300--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live CHAT 09/17
   DIR By: GenuineKosherDill
       Date: September 17, 2021, 12:29 pm
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       --- Quote from: BethinDC2AZ link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Queenie link=topic=312.msg17284#msg17284
       date=1631899315]
       > [quote author=floridafan15 link=topic=312.msg17273#msg17273
       date=1631898835]
       > I'm probably in the minority, but I think when you housesit
       you treat the house as the owner would. If they'd let everyone
       in a 5 block radius use the pool, you do too. It's not your
       house. You want a house where you get to use the pool in
       privacy? Pay for an Airbnb.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The problem here is that this wasn't clearly outlined in the
       first place.  LW is housesitting for four (4) dogs.  That's an
       absolute minimum of two hundred bucks per day.
       Let LW have the place to themself.
       [/quote]
       She won't make this mistake again. It's a big job. Don't do it
       for free. Lesson learned. Also, if those relatives don't pay her
       anyway they're total dicks.
       [/quote]
       Some days I think one small dog will drive me off the deep end.
       Can't imagine weeks on end with four dogs.  Not to mention the
       cleanup detail.
       I wonder what degree of relative it is who also "struggles with
       housework."   Mom?  So the neighbors think the sitter is just
       their buddy's offspring and they can overrule them?  Cousin?
       Sister?
       #Post#: 17301--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live CHAT 09/17
   DIR By: floridafan15
       Date: September 17, 2021, 12:30 pm
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       --- Quote from: Chicagogirl22 link ---
       >
       > Coming in hot on the coffee shop letter:
       >
       > I think a big tip is in order. I also think it’s extremely
       weird the coffee shop employee remained open 2 extra hours
       without saying anything.
       >
       > I would not make this the litmus test for a friends character.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Makes me wonder what else the employee will let you get away
       with. Play with the espresso machine? Make change in the cash
       register?
       #Post#: 17302--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live CHAT 09/17
   DIR By: Chicagogirl22
       Date: September 17, 2021, 12:32 pm
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       --- Quote from: floridafan15 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Chicagogirl22 link=topic=312.msg17287#msg17287
       date=1631899410]
       > Coming in hot on the coffee shop letter:
       >
       > I think a big tip is in order. I also think it’s extremely
       weird the coffee shop employee remained open 2 extra hours
       without saying anything.
       >
       > I would not make this the litmus test for a friends character.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Makes me wonder what else the employee will let you get away
       with. Play with the espresso machine? Make change in the cash
       register?
       [/quote]
       I don’t know why, but this particular letter isn’t sending me
       down the “slippery slope” train of thought.
       I think it’s weird but not a character indictment.
       #Post#: 17303--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live CHAT 09/17
   DIR By: GenuineKosherDill
       Date: September 17, 2021, 12:32 pm
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       --- Quote from: ManyHats link ---
       >
       > I just Googled dog-sitting costs in our area and got this:
       >
       > The hourly starting pay for Baltimore dog sitters averages out
       at $13 an hour, but if you need holiday, weekend, or overnight
       care, that rate can double or triple. The average cost for local
       dog sitting agencies is $70 a night for two walks and 12 hours
       of company.
       >
       > Bet it's a lot more expensive for 4 dogs.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I pay my longtime sitter $80-100 a night depending, for one dog.
       I gave her more when my ill dog was still alive and there were
       multiple medications and other issues involved.  She lives in
       and has the full use of my modest abode.  Once I had a lawn guy
       come and I felt apologetic at that disruption for her; I would
       not expect her to put up with people socializing in the yard.
       LW is getting the short end of the stick in this arrangement
       even without the pool hangers-on.
       #Post#: 17304--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live CHAT 09/17
   DIR By: LabPartner
       Date: September 17, 2021, 12:34 pm
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       --- Quote from: ManyHats link ---
       >
       > I just Googled dog-sitting costs in our area and got this:
       >
       > The hourly starting pay for Baltimore dog sitters averages out
       at $13 an hour, but if you need holiday, weekend, or overnight
       care, that rate can double or triple. The average cost for local
       dog sitting agencies is $70 a night for two walks and 12 hours
       of company.
       >
       > Bet it's a lot more expensive for 4 dogs.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       When I used to go to the dog beach, the walkers there charged
       $20 for a 2 hour beach walk (plus transportation time to and
       from). That was 7 years ago. (And sometimes the walkers had 5 or
       more dogs at a time)
       #Post#: 17305--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live CHAT 09/17
   DIR By: Chicagogirl22
       Date: September 17, 2021, 12:36 pm
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       --- Quote from: BethinDC2AZ link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Chicagogirl22 link=topic=312.msg17287#msg17287
       date=1631899410]
       > Coming in hot on the coffee shop letter:
       >
       > I think a big tip is in order. I also think it’s extremely
       weird the coffee shop employee remained open 2 extra hours
       without saying anything.
       >
       > I would not make this the litmus test for a friends character.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm just thinking of all the Hax nuts I've met here who would
       totally have been too afraid to tell the guy they were closing.
       [/quote]
       I would have gone over at 1:55 and been like “I’m closing in 5
       minutes, can I get you anything to go before you leave?”
       Then I would have put the chairs upside down on the rest of the
       tables and mopped.
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