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       Re: Live CHAT 09/17
   DIR By: Chicagogirl22
       Date: September 17, 2021, 1:37 pm
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       --- Quote from: Queenie link ---
       >
       > Wait, what?  We're not allowed to name our kids whatever we
       want?  Does this go in both directions?  If I can't name my kid
       Ariel or DaVonn, does that mean that "they" can't name their kid
       James or Melinda?
       >
       > That's bullshit.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It’s a whole thing.
       This may surprise you, it certainly does me, but I don’t have an
       opinion one way or the other. I try to stay out of the way of
       the discussion when it happens.
       My advice to this LW is to take her question to Baby Center or
       another similar website where people will get down in the mud
       and debate her allllllllll day and half the night.
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       Re: Live CHAT 09/17
   DIR By: BethinDC2AZ
       Date: September 17, 2021, 1:38 pm
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       --- Quote from: Chicagogirl22 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=BethinDC2AZ link=topic=312.msg17335#msg17335
       date=1631903590]
       > [quote author=Chicagogirl22 link=topic=312.msg17332#msg17332
       date=1631903441]
       > I’m calling the Mateo letter.
       >
       > I don’t think this is genuine. Cultural appropriation of baby
       names is a thing, I remember Cav mentioning this a few months
       ago in reference to Asher and Jewish culture.
       >
       > I think this person wants to discuss this issue and/or take
       Carolyn’s temperature on it so they fabricated this and
       submitted it. Carolyn artfully dodged discussing names and
       culture appropriation and for that I salute her.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I also think virtue signaling is a thing too. I can totally see
       this happening. They think it's a show of respect, not cultural
       appropriation.
       [/quote]
       It is just really sticky ground.
       I know this in reference to the name Asher, there are at least 3
       Asher’s in Chitot’s grade at school. It’s a very popular boys
       name right now. It has great significance to Jewish culture. I
       think plenty of parents were just like “cool name, I’ll use it.”
       Is that right? Is it wrong? Can only members of the group the
       name initiated in make that call?
       I have no idea, it’s very complicated.
       [/quote]
       I guess I don't equate religion to culture. Do you have to be
       Catholic to name your kid Margaret Mary?
       #Post#: 17341--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live CHAT 09/17
   DIR By: guest154
       Date: September 17, 2021, 1:40 pm
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       Smelly BF - there are the legendary Steve Jobs stories again. He
       was convinced that if he ate a vegan diet high in beta carotene
       he'd never need a shower.
       He was, um, wrong.
       But it took a while before some people worked up the nerve to
       tell him that. And even longer to convince him of that.
       #Post#: 17342--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live CHAT 09/17
   DIR By: VagueMagician
       Date: September 17, 2021, 1:40 pm
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       --- Quote from: Queenie link ---
       >
       > Wait, what?  We're not allowed to name our kids whatever we
       want?  Does this go in both directions?  If I can't name my kid
       Ariel or DaVonn, does that mean that "they" can't name their kid
       James or Melinda?
       >
       > That's bullshit.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Melinda's a weird name. I'd avoid it.
       #Post#: 17343--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live CHAT 09/17
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: September 17, 2021, 1:40 pm
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       I certainly wouldn't name my kid Mateo to make a point.  And of
       course with me it's all entirely moot because I'm
       post-menopausal.
       Plus I'm kinda WASP-y and my kids have totally kinda WASP-y
       names so whatevs.
       I just bristle at it only going one way. No fairs!
       #Post#: 17344--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live CHAT 09/17
   DIR By: Flipfloplife
       Date: September 17, 2021, 1:41 pm
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       --- Quote from: LabPartner link ---
       >
       > People aren't naming the way they used to. They're making them
       up, changing the spelling of traditional names, using things
       that sound Latin or French or Asian. And all the Irish name
       spellings. If someone names their kid Mateo, it might be
       anything other than that they live near Latinos.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yep. We have some Korean friends who chose Mateo as their son’s
       American name.
       #Post#: 17345--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live CHAT 09/17
   DIR By: West Morse
       Date: September 17, 2021, 1:42 pm
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       When someone tells me what they're naming their kid I always do
       the same thing - nod, smile, and say "That's lovely..." whether
       I like it or not.
       It's not my call to approve or disapprove, and I don't think
       anyone is actually looking for an honest answer anyway...
       #Post#: 17346--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live CHAT 09/17
   DIR By: VagueMagician
       Date: September 17, 2021, 1:42 pm
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       --- Quote from: armybrat link ---
       >
       > Smelly BF - there are the legendary Steve Jobs stories again.
       He was convinced that if he ate a vegan diet high in beta
       carotene he'd never need a shower.
       >
       > He was, um, wrong.
       >
       > But it took a while before some people worked up the nerve to
       tell him that. And even longer to convince him of that.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I would not continue dating smelly guy. He'll probably shower
       ever less once he's more comfortable around you.
       #Post#: 17347--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live CHAT 09/17
   DIR By: guest154
       Date: September 17, 2021, 1:42 pm
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       "Mateo"
       Oh, come off it. First of all, the Italian version of Matthew is
       nearly identical - Matteo.
       Second, do you complain about the guy from the Dominican
       Republic whose name is "George" instead of "Jorge?"  Does the
       guy from Russia have to be "Yuriy" or can he be "George?"
       Is Sasha Obama a sign of cultural appropriation, since that's a
       Russian nickname for Alexander?
       #Post#: 17348--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live CHAT 09/17
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: September 17, 2021, 1:43 pm
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       Telling someone they smell is like telling them they have bad
       breath.  I can only bring myself to do this with people I'm
       really close to.
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