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       #Post#: 279688--------------------------------------------------
       Vegan cheese doesn't melt like the real deal. That could soon ch
       ange
       By: Thetis099 Date: October 19, 2024, 2:29 pm
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       I want to try it when it is available, but I don't think it will
       work for me because I think I react to casein proteins.  This
       sounds like a really good idea for much better vegan cheese for
       those who are lactose intolerant but okay with caseins:
  HTML https://www.npr.org/2024/10/14/nx-s1-5134880/vegan-cheese-real-cheese-melt-dairyx
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       #Post#: 279696--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vegan cheese doesn't melt like the real deal. That could soo
       n change
       By: NoLongerAubergine Date: October 19, 2024, 3:55 pm
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       [quote author=Thetis099 link=topic=3104.msg279688#msg279688
       date=1729366196]
       I want to try it when it is available, but I don't think it will
       work for me because I think I react to casein proteins.  This
       sounds like a really good idea for much better vegan cheese for
       those who are lactose intolerant but okay with caseins:
  HTML https://www.npr.org/2024/10/14/nx-s1-5134880/vegan-cheese-real-cheese-melt-dairyx
       [/quote]
       Vegan cheeses are soooo much better than they were 10 years ago.
       When Miyoko's Kitchen hit the market then I was blown away. I
       hated all of the others (well Daiya was OK but too much coconut
       under taste for me.)
       Texture is the last horizon, I guess. But you are correct. A lot
       of people don't eat dairy because of the casein. Plus I imagine
       it might squick out others for other reasons. OTOH, I'll bet
       there is a market segment who would really welcome it. And one
       breakthrough often leads to another.
       Good info, thanks. My last labs convinced me that it's time to
       move back to more plant-based. (Slowly and incrementally until
       after the holidays, haha.)
       #Post#: 280952--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vegan cheese doesn't melt like the real deal. That could soo
       n change
       By: rmlo Date: October 26, 2024, 12:43 pm
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       [quote author=Thetis099 link=topic=3104.msg279688#msg279688
       date=1729366196]
       I want to try it when it is available, but I don't think it will
       work for me because I think I react to casein proteins.  This
       sounds like a really good idea for much better vegan cheese for
       those who are lactose intolerant but okay with caseins:
  HTML https://www.npr.org/2024/10/14/nx-s1-5134880/vegan-cheese-real-cheese-melt-dairyx
  HTML https://media0.giphy.com/media/4WRDzpFAg7Yt2/200.gif
       [/quote]
       Interesting.  I think it's the caseins that are the problem for
       me too as I still react to lactaid or lactose free products so
       I'm not sure it will be an option for me either but I'm sure
       there will be a market for it.
       I have mostly stayed away from the dairy free cheeses as so many
       of them are not all that great (although I agree improving over
       the years) but I recently discovered Violife Cream Cheese which
       I love!
       #Post#: 280976--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vegan cheese doesn't melt like the real deal. That could soo
       n change
       By: NoLongerAubergine Date: October 26, 2024, 1:41 pm
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       [quote author=rmlo link=topic=3104.msg280952#msg280952
       date=1729964626]
       [quote author=Thetis099 link=topic=3104.msg279688#msg279688
       date=1729366196]
       I want to try it when it is available, but I don't think it will
       work for me because I think I react to casein proteins.  This
       sounds like a really good idea for much better vegan cheese for
       those who are lactose intolerant but okay with caseins:
  HTML https://www.npr.org/2024/10/14/nx-s1-5134880/vegan-cheese-real-cheese-melt-dairyx
  HTML https://media0.giphy.com/media/4WRDzpFAg7Yt2/200.gif
       [/quote]
       Interesting.  I think it's the caseins that are the problem for
       me too as I still react to lactaid or lactose free products so
       I'm not sure it will be an option for me either but I'm sure
       there will be a market for it.
       I have mostly stayed away from the dairy free cheeses as so many
       of them are not all that great (although I agree improving over
       the years) but I recently discovered Violife Cream Cheese which
       I love!
       [/quote]
       I've heard good things about Violife. Will have to try harder
       find it.
       #Post#: 281024--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vegan cheese doesn't melt like the real deal. That could soo
       n change
       By: Tryp_OR Date: October 26, 2024, 6:07 pm
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       The non-animal caseins will almost certainly still be a problem
       for me. Though I suppose they are likely to be pure of other
       milk components, so it may be a good opportunity to do the
       experiment.  I hope that the labeling is clear.
       My favorite vegan cheese does not seem to be sold locally as
       slices anymore, although I can still get the shreds. Parmela
       Creamery is the brand.
       I recently tried Cheesy by Nature blue cheese (colored with
       streaks of spirulina, which I could slightly taste), not very
       convincing but oddly satisfying on a cracker.
       Violife feta is next on the testing table.
       #Post#: 301003--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vegan cheese doesn't melt like the real deal. That could soo
       n change
       By: GreenSedai Date: January 25, 2025, 6:56 pm
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       I'm so glad I found this thread!
       I react badly to dairy, including casein, plus it's inflammatory
       and I've already got enough issues on that front.
       I do hope companies aren't labeling food as vegan if it still
       has milk proteins.  :o
       The best I have access to right now is Violife and Dayia. As
       someone who's favorite food group was cheese in a former life,
       this adjustment has been painful.
       The Savannah area is a lot less enlightened wrt non-dairy foods
       than central Iowa. Atlanta was decent, so one thing I miss since
       moving this last time down to the low country. Even Whole Foods
       is skimpy on options.
       #Post#: 301004--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vegan cheese doesn't melt like the real deal. That could soo
       n change
       By: GreenSedai Date: January 25, 2025, 7:02 pm
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       [quote author=Tryp_OR link=topic=3104.msg281024#msg281024
       date=1729984028]
       The non-animal caseins will almost certainly still be a problem
       for me. Though I suppose they are likely to be pure of other
       milk components, so it may be a good opportunity to do the
       experiment.  I hope that the labeling is clear.
       My favorite vegan cheese does not seem to be sold locally as
       slices anymore, although I can still get the shreds. Parmela
       Creamery is the brand.
       I recently tried Cheesy by Nature blue cheese (colored with
       streaks of spirulina, which I could slightly taste), not very
       convincing but oddly satisfying on a cracker.
       Violife feta is next on the testing table.
       [/quote]
       I found a couple parmela creamery cheeses on the Savannah Fresh
       Market website (not Whole Foods, alas, where I already pay to
       get deliveries)! I'm excited to try this out. Thanks for the
       tip!
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