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       #Post#: 274708--------------------------------------------------
       Gisele Pelicot
   DIR By: animaniactoo
       Date: September 20, 2024, 1:51 pm
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       This is horrifying. Simply horrifying. The level of betrayal and
       mindfuckery here. I just cannot.
  HTML https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/gisele-pelicot-men-accused-rape-1.7324328
       The horrifying portion beyond the betrayal within the marriage
       is this mindset and argument among the men and their lawyers.
       --- Quote ---
       > A majority of the defendants are contesting the accusation of
       rape. Some have claimed they believed a husband's consent for
       sexual intercourse was sufficient, while others have said
       Dominique Pelicot tricked them into believing that his wife was
       consenting.
       >
       > One lawyer representing six defendants argued that "there is
       rape and rape, and without intention, there is no rape."
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       No motherfucker, without CONSENT there is rape. And the
       participant's consent, not some bystander. Even if that
       bystander is her husband.
       #Post#: 274709--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gisele Pelicot
   DIR By: animaniactoo
       Date: September 20, 2024, 1:55 pm
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       Other relevant articles
  HTML https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/17/europe/dominique-pelicot-france-rape-charges-intl/index.html
  HTML https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/associate-frenchman-accused-mass-rape-wife-admits-similar-abuse-2024-09-18/
  HTML https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/dominique-pelicot-frenchman-accused-mass-rape-wife-admits-charges-media-2024-09-17/
       #Post#: 274710--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gisele Pelicot
   DIR By: Aardtacha
       Date: September 20, 2024, 1:58 pm
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       I've been following this story on BBC for a while now.  She's
       brave as hell, and I hope that she never has to see him or the
       other rapists again in her lifetime, and that it be long and
       full of joy for her.
       Did you get to the bit where he also abused his daughter but
       promises that he never, ever considered sexually abusing his
       grandchildren?
       #Post#: 274716--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gisele Pelicot
   DIR By: animaniactoo
       Date: September 20, 2024, 2:10 pm
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       --- Quote from: Aardtacha link ---
       >
       > I've been following this story on BBC for a while now.  She's
       brave as hell, and I hope that she never has to see him or the
       other rapists again in her lifetime, and that it be long and
       full of joy for her.
       >
       > Did you get to the bit where he also abused his daughter but
       promises that he never, ever considered sexually abusing his
       grandchildren?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       No! I saw that images of her were found but that he was denying
       having abused her and she's not sure she believes him.
       Dear lord.
       Gisele is brave as hell, and she is making a big splash in the
       public consciousness. I hope it has every bit of the effect she
       is hoping for even if it does not all happen overnight.
       #Post#: 274717--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gisele Pelicot
   DIR By: MidwestmikkiJ
       Date: September 20, 2024, 2:11 pm
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       --- Quote from: Aardtacha link ---
       >
       > I've been following this story on BBC for a while now.  She's
       brave as hell, and I hope that she never has to see him or the
       other rapists again in her lifetime, and that it be long and
       full of joy for her.
       >
       > Did you get to the bit where he also abused his daughter but
       promises that he never, ever considered sexually abusing his
       grandchildren?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       See he’s not so bad. He wouldn’t consider abusing the really
       little ones.
       #Post#: 274719--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gisele Pelicot
   DIR By: northbayteky
       Date: September 20, 2024, 2:12 pm
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       --- Quote from: Aardtacha link ---
       >
       > I've been following this story on BBC for a while now.  She's
       brave as hell, and I hope that she never has to see him or the
       other rapists again in her lifetime, and that it be long and
       full of joy for her.
       >
       > Did you get to the bit where he also abused his daughter but
       promises that he never, ever considered sexually abusing his
       grandchildren?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I've been following it some in The Guardian. When I can stand
       to. I haven't gotten to that part yet. This whole thing is so
       sickening.
       #Post#: 274721--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gisele Pelicot
   DIR By: Aardtacha
       Date: September 20, 2024, 2:14 pm
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       Oh and of course it's because he was abused himself as a
       youngster.  I don't quite see how filming 70+ men sexually
       assault my wife is a result of "but I was abused, too".  And he
       had the gall to ask for her forgiveness.
       WTAF, guy?!
       #Post#: 274723--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gisele Pelicot
   DIR By: Aardtacha
       Date: September 20, 2024, 2:15 pm
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       --- Quote from: animaniactoo link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Aardtacha link=topic=3038.msg274710#msg274710
       date=1726858703]
       > I've been following this story on BBC for a while now.  She's
       brave as hell, and I hope that she never has to see him or the
       other rapists again in her lifetime, and that it be long and
       full of joy for her.
       >
       > Did you get to the bit where he also abused his daughter but
       promises that he never, ever considered sexually abusing his
       grandchildren?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       No! I saw that images of her were found but that he was denying
       having abused her and she's not sure she believes him.
       Dear lord.
       Gisele is brave as hell, and she is making a big splash in the
       public consciousness. I hope it has every bit of the effect she
       is hoping for even if it does not all happen overnight.
       [/quote]
       He took pictures of his semi-clad daughter without her
       knowledge.  Tell me that's not abuse.
       #Post#: 274724--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gisele Pelicot
   DIR By: animaniactoo
       Date: September 20, 2024, 2:16 pm
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       --- Quote from: MidwestmikkiJ link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Aardtacha link=topic=3038.msg274710#msg274710
       date=1726858703]
       > I've been following this story on BBC for a while now.  She's
       brave as hell, and I hope that she never has to see him or the
       other rapists again in her lifetime, and that it be long and
       full of joy for her.
       >
       > Did you get to the bit where he also abused his daughter but
       promises that he never, ever considered sexually abusing his
       grandchildren?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       See he’s not so bad. He wouldn’t consider abusing the really
       little ones.
       [/quote]
       We don't have the appropriate reaction buttons and even though
       we repurposed it, I did not want to use the Dumb button on this
       one.
       🤮 😡
       #Post#: 274726--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gisele Pelicot
   DIR By: animaniactoo
       Date: September 20, 2024, 2:17 pm
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       --- Quote from: Aardtacha link ---
       >
       > [quote author=animaniactoo link=topic=3038.msg274716#msg274716
       date=1726859408]
       > [quote author=Aardtacha link=topic=3038.msg274710#msg274710
       date=1726858703]
       > I've been following this story on BBC for a while now.  She's
       brave as hell, and I hope that she never has to see him or the
       other rapists again in her lifetime, and that it be long and
       full of joy for her.
       >
       > Did you get to the bit where he also abused his daughter but
       promises that he never, ever considered sexually abusing his
       grandchildren?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       No! I saw that images of her were found but that he was denying
       having abused her and she's not sure she believes him.
       Dear lord.
       Gisele is brave as hell, and she is making a big splash in the
       public consciousness. I hope it has every bit of the effect she
       is hoping for even if it does not all happen overnight.
       [/quote]
       He took pictures of his semi-clad daughter without her
       knowledge.  Tell me that's not abuse.
       [/quote]
       Ah, my bad. You are correct. I was thinking of physical touch
       abuse, but that is absolutely abuse.
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