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       On fermented foods
       By: Thetis099 Date: July 20, 2024, 8:21 am
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       "Are fermented foods like kombucha actually good for you?"
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       Re: On fermented foods
       By: farmgirl Date: July 20, 2024, 9:17 am
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       [quote author=Thetis099 link=topic=2886.msg263740#msg263740
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       "Are fermented foods like kombucha actually good for you?"
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       Interesting.  I eat yogurt almost every day, but almost no other
       fermented foods.  But my recent illness was intestinal and I had
       such severe bloating (along with other systems) that I looked
       4-5 months pregnant.  I had similar symptoms (along with
       significant pain) last year and ended up in the ER - where they
       found nothing seriously wrong and thought it was probably a
       reflux type thing.  But I had that  very pregnant look and very
       distended, hard abdomen.  I'm not particularly thin but I'm
       pretty fit and don't normally look like that.   So I am
       experimenting with kombucha, which I'd not had before, and will
       see whether it helps me long term.  I hope a little bit every
       day is helpful - I only like a small glass of it plus it is
       expensive.
       The kombucha has become my before dinner glass of wine, which is
       probably a good switch.
       My husband could eat sauerkraut and/or kimchi every day but I
       could not.
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       Re: On fermented foods
       By: Thetis099 Date: July 20, 2024, 1:23 pm
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       [quote author=farmgirl link=topic=2886.msg263763#msg263763
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       [quote author=Thetis099 link=topic=2886.msg263740#msg263740
       date=1721481678]
       "Are fermented foods like kombucha actually good for you?"
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       [/quote]
       Interesting.  I eat yogurt almost every day, but almost no other
       fermented foods.  But my recent illness was intestinal and I had
       such severe bloating (along with other systems) that I looked
       4-5 months pregnant.  I had similar symptoms (along with
       significant pain) last year and ended up in the ER - where they
       found nothing seriously wrong and thought it was probably a
       reflux type thing.  But I had that  very pregnant look and very
       distended, hard abdomen.  I'm not particularly thin but I'm
       pretty fit and don't normally look like that.   So I am
       experimenting with kombucha, which I'd not had before, and will
       see whether it helps me long term.  I hope a little bit every
       day is helpful - I only like a small glass of it plus it is
       expensive.
       The kombucha has become my before dinner glass of wine, which is
       probably a good switch.
       My husband could eat sauerkraut and/or kimchi every day but I
       could not.
       [/quote]
       Yikes!  I'm so sorry about your recent illnesses and that
       bloating.  I hope you find something that gives you relief.
       At times, my IBS and really bad GERD symptoms cause bloating
       like that, and it is so very uncomfortable.  I have measured a 5
       - 6" increase in my waist circumference over just a few hours
       many times, so I probably look pregnant in the belly too.  I
       fully get now why my grandma dressed the way she did as she had
       some of the same issues.  I am like her now, I haven't worm a
       waist band that doesn't stretch for over 7 years.  I can still
       hear my grandma's loud burps because they are now my loud burps,
       I kind of like that detail because I think about her almost
       every time.  :)
       I eat a small serving of something fermented almost every day.
       I started this in 2019 as my GI doctor suggested.  The thing I
       noticed within a couple of months was I could eat more water
       soluble fiber with milder symptoms than before, but who knows if
       correlation = causation.  Over time, I have slowly gotten back
       to eating more whole grains instead of avoiding them like the
       plague.  I slowly got beans back too, as long as I limit
       servings to 1/2 cup per day, use canned beans, and rinse them
       really well.  I hated eating GF white bread and GF rice pasta
       made from polished rice because it made me feel like my blood
       sugar spiked then crashed as if I had eaten donuts for lunch.  I
       also discovered that too much fermented food caused me those
       headaches they wrote about, so I really limit servings to avoid
       that problem.
       The foods I rely upon most are coconut milk yogurt, sauerkraut,
       uncooked miso paste or tofu, olives and other pickled
       vegetables, tamari sauce - anything fermented I don't have to
       cook and kill off some of those beneficial bacteria to eat.  I
       mean like 5-6 olives chopped up and used as topping is a small
       serving of fermented food for me, and I usually have 1-2
       servings per day.  I really like kombucha, but things with
       bubbles aggravate my reflux so I don't drink it often.  Also, as
       much as I love black tea, green tea, and white tea, my bloat
       symptoms are always better when I stick to rooibos tea instead.
       I do 4 days of herbal tea for every 1 day real tea.  That helps
       too.
       I hope you feel better very soon.
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