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Re: Your Excuses For Eating Meat Are Predictable And Wrong, Stud
y Finds
By: Tryp_OR Date: June 17, 2024, 7:21 pm
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[quote author=farmgirl link=topic=2795.msg257335#msg257335
date=1718582088]
I read this last summer - How a mere 12% of Americans eat half
the nation’s beef, creating significant health and environmental
impacts
HTML https://news.tulane.edu/pr/how-mere-12-americans-eat-half-nation%E2%80%99s-beef-creating-significant-health-and-environmental#:~:text=of%20beef%20consumption.-,Those%2012%25%20%E2%80%93%20most%20likely%20to%20be%20men%20or%20people%20between,combined%20for%20those%20consuming%202200
I thought it was pretty interesting.
[/quote]
Definitely interesting. But looking at the Tulane report (not
the original data), it seems that this statistic applies to any
given day. If you figure that most people who like beef
nevertheless do not eat meals loaded with beef every day, it
could easily be that most of Monday's 12% do not eat much (or
any) beef on Tuesday, and this general pattern continuing etc,
etc for the other days of the week. So that would spread the
consumption of at least one beef-heavy meal over a larger number
of people during the course of the week. That would presumably
apply to a whole year, too.
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Re: Your Excuses For Eating Meat Are Predictable And Wrong, Stud
y Finds
By: MidwestmikkiJ Date: June 17, 2024, 8:51 pm
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Every time someone comments on this thread it rises up and I see
it again.
And every time I'm irritated again by the title. Your "excuses"
bugs me. I suspect that word was deliberately chosen, probably
for its irritant value.
For what it's worth, I haven't read the article because the
title irritates me so much.
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Re: Your Excuses For Eating Meat Are Predictable And Wrong, Stud
y Finds
By: northbayteky Date: June 17, 2024, 8:58 pm
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[quote author=MidwestmikkiJ link=topic=2795.msg257503#msg257503
date=1718675491]
Every time someone comments on this thread it rises up and I see
it again.
And every time I'm irritated again by the title. Your "excuses"
bugs me. I suspect that word was deliberately chosen, probably
for its irritant value.
For what it's worth, I haven't read the article because the
title irritates me so much.
[/quote]
It bugs me too. I've been through all kinds of diets including
vegetarian. I choose to eat meat. My own personal contributions
to climate change are basically useless. It doesn't mean I stop
trying altogether. I'm not making big changes anymore believing
a myth that I'm helping. It's a drop in the ocean, a grain of
sand on the beach.
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Re: Your Excuses For Eating Meat Are Predictable And Wrong, Stud
y Finds
By: Paloma Date: June 17, 2024, 11:11 pm
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The title is awful, I agree.
But there are idiots everywhere. They write irritating
articles. That can detract from the validity of the research
they present. :) Here it's that reducing meat consumption
benefits human health. There's enough data on that outside of
this article. Then again, everyone who's regularly here seems
very aware already of health and diet guidelines, and of the
effect of human diet on the planet.
Just as an aside, I posted up in "Entertainment" that I was
watching the "You Are What You Eat" limited series on Netflix
(2024). Finished all 4 episodes! It was filmed during the
Stanford Experiment run by Stanford Medicine, in which 21 pairs
of identical twins were given diets to follow for 8 weeks. One
twin went vegan and the other followed a healthy omnivore diet.
PhD's in nutrition science, microbiome health, epigenetics,
neurologists, and others took part in the research, and their
commentaries are pretty illuminating. The medical results were
astounding for only 8 weeks, even to the researchers. As they
mentioned, we control a great deal of our own outcomes at the
end of our forks. The series also did a really stellar job of
examining food industries that have been in place since WWII and
their effects on people and the environment. I can recommend
this as engrossing if not life-changing. :)
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Re: Your Excuses For Eating Meat Are Predictable And Wrong, Stud
y Finds
By: Thetis099 Date: June 18, 2024, 6:58 am
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[quote author=northbayteky link=topic=2795.msg257505#msg257505
date=1718675918]
[quote author=MidwestmikkiJ link=topic=2795.msg257503#msg257503
date=1718675491]
Every time someone comments on this thread it rises up and I see
it again.
And every time I'm irritated again by the title. Your "excuses"
bugs me. I suspect that word was deliberately chosen, probably
for its irritant value.
For what it's worth, I haven't read the article because the
title irritates me so much.
[/quote]
It bugs me too. I've been through all kinds of diets including
vegetarian. I choose to eat meat. My own personal contributions
to climate change are basically useless. It doesn't mean I stop
trying altogether. I'm not making big changes anymore believing
a myth that I'm helping. It's a drop in the ocean, a grain of
sand on the beach.
[/quote]
I agree but for the limiting or eliminating meat from our diets
and having fewer or no children. Those two things are the most
carbon footprint reducing things any individual can do to try
and help the environment as far as I have read to date during my
entire career. Recycling is the thing they taught us was
helping that isn't really helping, certainly not the way we do
it in this country, but it was never going to move the needle
anyway because the production of new plastics from fossil fuels
never stopped, but that is another issue. I don't think
limiting meat in our collective diets is similarly polishing the
brass on the Titanic, but that opinion is based on what I know
today. New and verifiable scientific information that proves
otherwise would change that opinion.
The headline sucks, it is a clickbaity headline. I don't like
that this website does that, but the articles contain good
information. I used to rewrite the headlines, then I decided I
shouldn't do that unless I say I am rewriting their headlines
(limited characters in the title field make that difficult).
So, I copy and paste their headline in the name of accuracy. I
ignore the clickbaity shit and look for the real information,
because if I refused to read every article with a clickbaity
headline, I would read very little online. NPR writes
clickbaity headlines too, as do most online papers theses days.
At least most all of the articles on IFLS have links to their
source journals, which I think gives everyone the opportunity to
check into their claims personally if they like. I believe if
they don't use the clickbaity headlines, they don't get enough
eyeballs to justify their existence. That is just the way the
internet works now for the most part, so avoiding clickbaity
headlines is not an easy task and may lead to ignoring
information sources that are good. Some of those sources are
just going with the flow of the internet with their headlines.
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