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       Re: Live Chat 09/10
       By: Heron Date: September 10, 2021, 11:42 am
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       I'd be lining up both a counselor AND a divorce attorney, if I
       were the chatter whose husband thinks he can slack off and then
       lie about it.
       And one of the things I'd talk with the counselor about would be
       how to break the news to the kids. I don't think trying to make
       him look good to the kids would be my highest priority, either.
       Karma.
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       Re: Live Chat 09/10
       By: animaniactoo Date: September 10, 2021, 11:43 am
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       Informed consent question:
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       #Post#: 14096--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live Chat 09/10
       By: BethinDC2AZ Date: September 10, 2021, 11:44 am
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       [quote author=GenuineKosherDill link=topic=277.msg14093#msg14093
       date=1631292014]
       It would depend on their ages.  Granted he's an ass and a
       disappointment, but disrupting a child or young adult's entire
       belief system about their father, just to make the mom seem more
       righteous, seems as though it could have lifelong ramifications.
       She's suffering massive disillusionment,  but is it really
       necessary for them to suffer to the same degree?  He might have
       some good qualities as a parent.
       [/quote]
       I've never understood this need some people have to keep parents
       on pedestals. Personally, I think it makes it harder for kids to
       grow up and develop adult relationships with their parents when
       their parent's faults and failures are kept hidden. Do you
       really think knowing the truth about why their dad lost his job
       and the added stress that put on mom will make them love him
       less? I don't. They may respect him less but he can earn that
       back.
       #Post#: 14097--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live Chat 09/10
       By: GenuineKosherDill Date: September 10, 2021, 11:44 am
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       SO of cancer patient railing about the evils of the medical
       profession certainly rings a bell.....
       #Post#: 14098--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live Chat 09/10
       By: Queenie Date: September 10, 2021, 11:44 am
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       [quote author=Heron link=topic=277.msg14090#msg14090
       date=1631291955]
       [quote author=Queenie link=topic=277.msg14088#msg14088
       date=1631291814]
       The script for the friend of the spouse of the cancer victim is
       just so bad.
       [/quote]
       What would you advise?
       [/quote]
       I don't know about advise, but in a similar spot I might suggest
       a grief support group and then fade back myself.
       #Post#: 14100--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live Chat 09/10
       By: Heron Date: September 10, 2021, 11:47 am
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       [quote author=Queenie link=topic=277.msg14098#msg14098
       date=1631292274]
       [quote author=Heron link=topic=277.msg14090#msg14090
       date=1631291955]
       [quote author=Queenie link=topic=277.msg14088#msg14088
       date=1631291814]
       The script for the friend of the spouse of the cancer victim is
       just so bad.
       [/quote]
       What would you advise?
       [/quote]
       I don't know about advise, but in a similar spot I might suggest
       a grief support group and then fade back myself.
       [/quote]
       Sounds good to me.
       #Post#: 14102--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live Chat 09/10
       By: AbidingDudev4.1 Date: September 10, 2021, 11:48 am
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       [quote author=Queenie link=topic=277.msg14088#msg14088
       date=1631291814]
       The script for the friend of the spouse of the cancer victim is
       just so bad.
       [/quote]
       She's an excellent writer, but oddly bad at scripts.
       I thought "remember who I married" sounded pretty defensive.
       #Post#: 14103--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live Chat 09/10
       By: GenuineKosherDill Date: September 10, 2021, 11:48 am
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       [quote author=BethinDC2AZ link=topic=277.msg14096#msg14096
       date=1631292246]
       [quote author=GenuineKosherDill link=topic=277.msg14093#msg14093
       date=1631292014]
       It would depend on their ages.  Granted he's an ass and a
       disappointment, but disrupting a child or young adult's entire
       belief system about their father, just to make the mom seem more
       righteous, seems as though it could have lifelong ramifications.
       She's suffering massive disillusionment,  but is it really
       necessary for them to suffer to the same degree?  He might have
       some good qualities as a parent.
       [/quote]
       I've never understood this need some people have to keep parents
       on pedestals. Personally, I think it makes it harder for kids to
       grow up and develop adult relationships with their parents when
       their parent's faults and failures are kept hidden.
       [/quote]
       I think there is a range between "pedestal" and "I'm dumping
       this useless man of no integrity."  As someone else said, it is
       unclear if the husband has a lifelong trait of slacking/cheating
       or if he made one big stumble.  Cutting him down to the ground
       in the eyes of his teenagers seems like vengeful twisting of the
       knife, especially if he's done a decent job of contributing his
       share of the family income and parenting.
       I would not respect or be with a man like that, but I wouldn't
       preen myself over righteously exposing his flaws to his kids,
       either.
       #Post#: 14105--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live Chat 09/10
       By: Esme Rain Date: September 10, 2021, 11:48 am
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       I don't disagree with the poster either saying fired husband is
       terrible.  I just...don't know.  I do know LW needs to vent and
       not keep up so much face for him in the family.
       #Post#: 14107--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Live Chat 09/10
       By: Heron Date: September 10, 2021, 11:49 am
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       Chatter w son who moved home:  This is making my head hurt. Talk
       about being between a rock and a hard place!
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