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       Walking alone at night
       By: Queenie Date: February 11, 2024, 7:05 am
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       This doesn't surprise me one tiny bit.
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       Re: Walking alone at night
       By: MidwestmikkiJ Date: February 11, 2024, 9:43 am
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       Yes this is almost a “Duh” conclusion.
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       Re: Walking alone at night
       By: Queenie Date: February 11, 2024, 9:52 am
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       [quote author=MidwestmikkiJ link=topic=2532.msg235113#msg235113
       date=1707666185]
       Yes this is almost a “Duh” conclusion.
       [/quote]
       For women it is.
       This is one of those things that I bet a ton of guys find
       impossible to truly "get."
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       Re: Walking alone at night
       By: LabPartner Date: February 11, 2024, 10:29 am
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       When I'm walking Ziva, my eyes are constantly going in every
       direction watching out for loose dogs and other  wildlife that
       might come up to us. I'll have to pay attention, but I imagine
       I'm a typical guy when walking by myself.
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       Re: Walking alone at night
       By: C__Sprite Date: February 11, 2024, 11:36 am
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       20-some years ago I lived alone in a nice neighborhood near the
       lake in Chicago.  My dog woke me up at 3 am on a Sunday,
       indicating she needed out NOW.  I threw on clothes and took a
       small hammer with me as we headed out.   I had to laugh as there
       were still some couples walking outside, presumably headed home
       from an evening out.
       Traveling alone in foreign countries is always a mixed bag.
       Our tour guide strongly insisted that women were not to leave
       our hotel alone at night.  I didn’t need convincing since the
       hotels were luxurious and the neighborhood sketchy.  But in
       Thailand and Viet Nam, our guides assured us it was safe for
       women to go out alone at night.  And the countries came alive at
       night, and it was a whole different vibe.
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       Re: Walking alone at night
       By: MidwestmikkiJ Date: February 11, 2024, 11:58 am
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       My current - totally urban - neighborhood is full of nightlife,
       much of it from nice restaurants, bars, theaters. So I’m
       comfortable walking here at night.
       My former neighborhood, which was inner city residential was
       very safe and yet I wouldn’t walk alone later at night because
       it was so much quieter.
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       Re: Walking alone at night
       By: farmgirl Date: February 11, 2024, 5:50 pm
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       My husband makes fun of me when I lock the doors before going to
       bed - he usually says, "What are you so afraid of?  This is a
       safe neighborhood!"
       So a month or two ago I laid out all the times when I was
       presumably in a "safe" place and yet was stalked or harassed -
       in the shower at a youth hostel (a naked man joined me in my
       shower stall), dressing in the women's locker room at the
       University (a man walked through, oogling all of us), etc.,
       etc., etc.  And I told him about a sociology prof's question
       posed to the class - first to the women, then to the men about
       whether they've ever felt threatened while walking alone at
       night.  100% of the women, less than a quarter of the men (as I
       recall).
       Women and men preceive the world differently due to their
       experiences.  Women are concerned with their safety and often
       most men are not.
       My husband finally understood why I lock the doors.  And why I
       won't sleep with the first floor windows open, which he used to
       not understand.  It took, as ManyHats says, a clue by four to
       the head.
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       Re: Walking alone at night
       By: kkt Date: February 11, 2024, 8:19 pm
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       [quote author=Queenie link=topic=2532.msg235115#msg235115
       date=1707666735]
       [quote author=MidwestmikkiJ link=topic=2532.msg235113#msg235113
       date=1707666185]
       Yes this is almost a “Duh” conclusion.
       [/quote]
       For women it is.
       This is one of those things that I bet a ton of guys find
       impossible to truly "get."
       [/quote]
       Fear, no; cautious, yes.  There's been an ongoing problem for
       many years with gangs operating adjacent to the university
       campus.  The mainly target people walking alone who are not
       paying attention to their surroundings - drunk or high, or
       staring at their phones or other devices.  They attack in
       groups, 3 to 6 on one person or 4-7 on a pair.  Knock them down
       from behind, often show a gun, then take the victims' devices
       and maybe their wallets and disappear.
       A library supervisor who was my boss when I was a student
       employee was attacked once while walking alone.  It was not that
       pattern - they beat him severely and left him unconcious and he
       could easily have died.  But that was before expensive devices
       were widespread and he didn't have one, and they didn't even
       take his wallet.  It may have been racial, but it's hard to say
       since he didn't remember the attack.
       I don't usually have reason to walk there at night, so I don't.
       And when I am walking there I'm careful to be looking around
       where a group could be hiding.  In a parked car?
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