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#Post#: 89601--------------------------------------------------
Re: training questions
DIR By: Buckleup Buttercup
Date: April 15, 2022, 12:57 pm
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> [quote author=AbidingDudev4.1 link=topic=166.msg7422#msg7422
date=1629993825]
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> I mean obvious things to me were rewarding good behavior way
more than punishing bad behavior, especially if said bad
behavior was more than 10 seconds ago.
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> Had a trainer for like 4 sessions when chance was a puppy, and
he said she was really easy, eager to please and quick to learn,
which makes me worry about a new puppy as the universe craves
balance.
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> The mouthy thing usually abates with the teething, no?
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The mouthy thing is getting marginally better with time and
training and "maturity". Labs are a very mouthy breed, I'm told
this is common in retrievers. She has a very strong need to
hold something in her mouth nearly all the time. I'm fine with
this when that something is not one of my bodyparts or shoes.
Itellyouwhat though, the retrieving drive is a wonderful thing.
At present it wanes precipitously in the presence of any and all
distractions, but I'm hoping that will get better with time and
practice.
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I keep a squishy toy near me and stick it in her mouth when
Betty Jolene does the mouthy thing (she does not really do it
very often). And, it’s usually when she’s getting a belly rub.
Maybe that will help somewhat.
LCP is still a puppy. When Stella was that age I didn’t think we
were gonna make it some days - talk about headstrong.
I am now sad that I did not get to live through that age with
Betty and even sadder that I will not get to meet him this
summer. Gawd! I bet he is soooooo adorable.
#Post#: 89602--------------------------------------------------
Re: training questions
DIR By: Buckleup Buttercup
Date: April 15, 2022, 12:58 pm
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--- Quote from: Queenie link ---
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> Kitten knows the range of the spray bottle. He jumps on stuff
with the aim of getting us to engage. When we reach for the
bottle he scoots out of range.
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Laser toy. Oodles of fun, you can sit on the sofa, and they cost
about $5. My old cats still like to chase the laser lights.
#Post#: 89604--------------------------------------------------
Re: training questions
DIR By: Buckleup Buttercup
Date: April 15, 2022, 1:04 pm
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--- Quote from: TwoASAPsAgo link ---
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> Not a training question, but ... could someone who has had
puppies chime in on how fast the teeth start to drop when they
start to fall?
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> Cy has lost two in the last two hours, and I just want to get
a sense of whether to worry ... trying not to be the person who
calls the vet for every little thing. Plus we have a vet
appointment this Saturday.
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> But on the training side, I let him have a beatup, old oven
mitt I've used for years. He seems to love it as much as my
sandals. Plus he can bury his nose in it and shake it. I
"confiscated" it at least once, so gets to enjoy thinking he's
stealing it from me. Let's see if he'll forget about the
sandals. 😁
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> Edited less than 1 minute later to say: No, he has not
forgotten the sandals. 🤦‍♀️
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> Edited 15 minutes later to say: I'll try putting my foot in
it for awhile to see if that helps.
>
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You just made me smile. Do not worry. When my Bubba (spaniel
mix) lost his puppy teeth they all came out within a couple of
days. He was fine. And it was rather bloody.
#Post#: 89605--------------------------------------------------
Re: training questions
DIR By: Buckleup Buttercup
Date: April 15, 2022, 1:06 pm
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--- Quote from: Queenie link ---
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> Is he sitting at other times? Like when nobody asks him to
sit? Have you tried it without the clothes?
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> I'm all for shaping but if he knows the cue I myself think
it's OK to use the cue. Once.
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> How is he doing with other cues? Can he, say, "go to bed"?
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> I love that he's sitting nicely for his dinner. That's a good
sign.
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I, on the other hand, love it when Betty Jolene dances around
when dinner is being served - she not in my way or anything - so
I just feel rather appreciated.
#Post#: 91131--------------------------------------------------
Re: training questions
DIR By: Queenie
Date: April 22, 2022, 10:59 am
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We're learning a new "trick" in tricks class. It's a very
useful cue called "Park it!" where you stand with your legs
slightly apart and your dog parks its butt on the ground between
them and stays there until released.
LCP is a little confused about what I want but we're working on
it. Also, I have apparently failed utterly at getting her to
stand still. If she's still, she sits or lies down. I seem
unable to fix this. Boo.
LCP loves to work and loves to please and so she loves our
classes, but also after we do a new command fifteen or twenty
times she definitely stops trying. She be like "Mom, I did
that, you moron. Let's move on." This is only ever a thing in
a class situation because she picks up on what I want to do in
about a second so while some of the other dogs are still trying
to figure out what their handlers want, LCP has rolled over
fifteen times and then gets bored.
#Post#: 91145--------------------------------------------------
Re: training questions
DIR By: CaviaPorcellus
Date: April 22, 2022, 11:21 am
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So, we do have an intake session with a trainer.... On May 17th.
In the meantime, this chick is jumping so much she's putting the
NBA to shame. How do we curb this? We've tried, throughout her 4
months here, not responding, actively turning our backs and
walking away, and gently pushing her down while saying "off".
None of it has worked.
#Post#: 91150--------------------------------------------------
Re: training questions
DIR By: Queenie
Date: April 22, 2022, 11:57 am
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--- Quote from: CaviaPorcellus link ---
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> So, we do have an intake session with a trainer.... On May
17th.
>
> In the meantime, this chick is jumping so much she's putting
the NBA to shame. How do we curb this? We've tried, throughout
her 4 months here, not responding, actively turning our backs
and walking away, and gently pushing her down while saying
"off". None of it has worked.
>
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My advice in general is always to try and figure out what you
want her to *do*, rather than *not do.* So you want to train
her to do something which is incompatible with jumping, for
example, a sit. Reward the living heck out of that.
That is the two sentence simple "easy for you to say" answer.
The longer answer is that she's a super energetic puppy and this
will remain a work in progress for some time, so be patient and
do not be discouraged by setbacks, because progress is never
linear. Rather, the slope/trend of the line is upwards, but it
is not smooth or straight, right?
Further, energetic dogs like to move and do stuff, so if she is
like LCP she'll do best if you give her a job. For LCP we use
"go get me a toy."
Finally, this one is not easy to explain in words but when you
get it right it works extremely well but only for the person who
is doing it at the time: as her feet leave the ground and she
begins to jump, walk straight into her almost as if she isn't
there. If you do it perfectly your knee will contact her chest
but you should not worry about doing it perfectly, the trick is
to walk right into her as if your plan was to push her right
over backwards. Don't worry, she will not fall over backwards.
But any self-reinforcement of jumping on you will instantly be
removed, and she should stop fairly immediately, at least until
the next time she gets excited. I learned this trick in puppy K
and when done correctly it works a treat.
Oh, and a house lead. It's never too late to go back to a house
lead for a little bit.
#Post#: 91674--------------------------------------------------
Re: training questions
DIR By: Queenie
Date: April 25, 2022, 10:21 am
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Cavia, curious: is this private lessons or a group class?
#Post#: 91858--------------------------------------------------
Re: training questions
DIR By: CaviaPorcellus
Date: April 25, 2022, 11:02 pm
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> Cavia, curious: is this private lessons or a group class?
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Private. Most of the groups around us want some form of private
training done before they'll admit your dog. Too many COVID
semi-ferals who aren't being properly trained at home - it's a
liability now.
#Post#: 92424--------------------------------------------------
Re: training questions
DIR By: Queenie
Date: April 28, 2022, 8:38 am
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So I've already told you about the thing LCP does, where she
boings enthusiastically a lot but most especially when she is on
the sofa and she wants something I am eating. It's really quite
dramatic and I find it hilarious.
So we are trying to shape it into a trick, wherein I say
"BOING!" and she, well, she boings.
It's a work in progress but when we are done it's gonna be an
awesome party trick.
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