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       #Post#: 46581--------------------------------------------------
       Re: training questions
   DIR By: guest33
       Date: November 30, 2021, 4:53 am
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       --- Quote from: Queenie link ---
       >
       > LCP doesn't jump but she definitely invites herself onto the
       sofa and then suddenly you have a now-70lb lapful of chocolate
       colored attention hog.
       >
       > We bought a Kong wobbler for her and for reasons I cannot
       fathom it has disappeared into the fifth dimension.  So
       yesterday I purchased another one and also this, the Kong
       "rewards wally."
       >
  HTML https://www.kongcompany.com/dog/play-type/interactive/rewards-wally
       >
       > Reader, she ate it.  Do not buy this product.  She used it as
       advertised, then when all of the food was gone (or maybe there
       was still some inside?) she somehow managed to get it open and
       chewed the hell out of the edges so that it is now useless and I
       had to throw it away.
       >
       > The wobbler, however, I highly recommend.  I bought it because
       it's indestructible and also it can't roll under the sofa.  I
       have no ideas on how to keep it from entering the fifth
       dimension, alas.  Fingers crossed the new one stays in my family
       room.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       One of our nicknames for our Sadie is EBC - enthusiastic bone
       chewer. Now Sadie is just under 40 lbs, so not a large dog. But
       toys are a problem.  Toy listed as for strong chewers?.  She
       destroys it in under an hour. Toys listed as indestructible, she
       ignores them. Even the flavored ones. It’s like if she can’t
       destroy a toy, she doesn’t wZnt it.
       Stuffed toys, hah! The first time we gave her one of these, in 5
       minutes her muzzle was covered with fluff and the toy was dead.
       I don’t care about the mess, the Problem is she swallows the
       fluff.
       So pretty much these days, she only has plastic balls (what she
       can do to destroy a tennis ball is amazing) elk antlers and cow
       bones (uncooked sandblasted ones).
       Now it is funny to watch her throw a ball herself then chase it.
       😂
       #Post#: 46732--------------------------------------------------
       Re: training questions
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: November 30, 2021, 10:29 am
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       --- Quote from: MayaMia link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Queenie link=topic=166.msg46142#msg46142
       date=1638198998]
       > LCP doesn't jump but she definitely invites herself onto the
       sofa and then suddenly you have a now-70lb lapful of chocolate
       colored attention hog.
       >
       > We bought a Kong wobbler for her and for reasons I cannot
       fathom it has disappeared into the fifth dimension.  So
       yesterday I purchased another one and also this, the Kong
       "rewards wally."
       >
  HTML https://www.kongcompany.com/dog/play-type/interactive/rewards-wally
       >
       > Reader, she ate it.  Do not buy this product.  She used it as
       advertised, then when all of the food was gone (or maybe there
       was still some inside?) she somehow managed to get it open and
       chewed the hell out of the edges so that it is now useless and I
       had to throw it away.
       >
       > The wobbler, however, I highly recommend.  I bought it because
       it's indestructible and also it can't roll under the sofa.  I
       have no ideas on how to keep it from entering the fifth
       dimension, alas.  Fingers crossed the new one stays in my family
       room.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       One of our nicknames for our Sadie is EBC - enthusiastic bone
       chewer. Now Sadie is just under 40 lbs, so not a large dog. But
       toys are a problem.  Toy listed as for strong chewers?.  She
       destroys it in under an hour. Toys listed as indestructible, she
       ignores them. Even the flavored ones. It’s like if she can’t
       destroy a toy, she doesn’t wZnt it.
       Stuffed toys, hah! The first time we gave her one of these, in 5
       minutes her muzzle was covered with fluff and the toy was dead.
       I don’t care about the mess, the Problem is she swallows the
       fluff.
       So pretty much these days, she only has plastic balls (what she
       can do to destroy a tennis ball is amazing) elk antlers and cow
       bones (uncooked sandblasted ones).
       Now it is funny to watch her throw a ball herself then chase it.
       😂
       [/quote]
       I had a chihuahua who would do that.  Throw a ball and chase it.
       LCP is, right this minute, sequestered in her crate until I can
       get home to wfh this PM.  She has a great big knucklebone and an
       elk antler piece.  Poor baby, she doesn't spend much time in the
       crate usually so she's probably not thrilled.
       We have had amazing luck with these:
  HTML https://www.ethicalpet.com/product/vermont-fleece-chew-man-8/
       I think we got bigger ones for the Slobberdogs.
       I do not know why they don't instantly de-stuff these, but none
       of our dogs ever have.  My last Slobberdog definitely treated
       this like her baby doll.  She just loved to cuddle it and nibble
       on it but it took her maybe six months to destroy it instead of
       fifteen minutes.
       #Post#: 67776--------------------------------------------------
       Re: training questions
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: January 28, 2022, 9:52 am
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       We're starting a tricks class at the end of March and it
       reminded me to ask:  what is your favorite brand of training
       treats?
       We use a mix of: kibble, bits of carrot, bits of apple, bits of
       cheese, bits of something I call "stinky fish treats" by Plato,
       pieces of Stella and Chewy's chicken meal mixers, and bits of
       leftover chicken or venison. Sometimes bits of cooked hot dog.
       For me the ideal training treat is not too smelly, small enough
       to disappear in a single bite and shelf stable.
       LCP's favorite, by a thousand miles, is cheese.  If you have a
       piece of cheese she immediately begins offering every behaviour
       she can think of to get you to reward her.
       #Post#: 86298--------------------------------------------------
       Re: training questions
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: April 1, 2022, 10:40 am
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       Trick training class update:
       LCP was, as predicted, beside herself with excitement to be in a
       room with six or seven other dogs.  So much so that she, no lie,
       nearly choked herself straining to get at them.  I did not pull
       on her, just stood there while she did it to herself.  After a
       little while I was able to distract her with treats and various
       jobs to do.
       The class had several doodle dogs, one poodle, a lab mix and one
       absolutely adorable smallish fluffball. The poodle was far and
       away the best trained dog in the class and regarded LCP with
       what can only be described as polite disdain.
       We began with some fairly standard stuff: army crawl, spin,
       "high five", "touch" (target), "get in"/"go through" using hula
       hoops.
       During the class while I was chatting with one of the
       instructors I mentioned that "bang, you're dead" is super fun
       but not very politically correct nowadays, and we sequed into a
       trick that's really just "sit pretty" but instead the cue is
       "put 'em up!"  Youngest said that we can't say that, we have to
       go full Toy Story and drawl out "Reach for the skyyyyyy", and I
       fully agree.
       LCP was easily the most distracted dog in the class, which I
       fully expected.  What I did not expect is how quickly she was
       willing to stop paying attention to the other dogs and focus on
       my bag of treats.  A lot of the tricks are ones she already
       knows how to do so we worked on fading the stimulus.
       I'm hoping that by the end of class I can direct her into or
       onto something from across the room.  And also have "reach for
       the skyyyy" quickly followed by "BANG!" ready by the time my
       little nieblings visit this summer.
       #Post#: 86349--------------------------------------------------
       Re: training questions
   DIR By: animaniactoo
       Date: April 1, 2022, 11:49 am
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       That sounds like so much fun! I hope you get that payoff.
       If not then, I'm sure you'll get it some other time.
       #Post#: 86352--------------------------------------------------
       Re: training questions
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: April 1, 2022, 11:52 am
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       --- Quote from: animaniactoo link ---
       >
       > That sounds like so much fun! I hope you get that payoff.
       >
       > If not then, I'm sure you'll get it some other time.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Anything beyond getting out of the house and working on
       socialization is a delightful bonus.  So we're already at full
       win.
       #Post#: 88377--------------------------------------------------
       Re: training questions
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: April 11, 2022, 9:59 am
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       Last Thursday I confirmed that any failure to execute the
       desired cues is coming from inadequacies of the trainer, not of
       the subject.  Sigh.  In the good news department, we have
       successfully trained "show me your tummy", which we are going to
       shape into a full roll-over as well as "play dead".
       Also, while LCP is fully capable of leaping the coffee table
       without touching it, she has not yet grokked that if she
       literally jumps through a hoop this is supposed to include her
       back limbs as well as the ones in front.
       #Post#: 89493--------------------------------------------------
       Re: training questions
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: April 15, 2022, 10:20 am
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       Tricks class update:  LCP is super excited to do anything
       requiring motion: "roll over", "run through this tunnel", etc.
       She is much harder to train for anything requiring that she be
       still while she does it.  Last night we began training "hold",
       wherein you give her something and she holds it until you tell
       her to let it go.  You begin with "take it" and she quickly
       grokked that I wanted her to put her mouth on it, but she was
       supremely uninterested in holding it in her mouth for more than
       a femtosecond.
       Supposedly this is normal but I'm not wildly optimistic.
       She was one of only two dogs in the class that wanted anything
       to do with the tunnel.  I rolled a squeaky ball through and she
       followed it like a shot.
       Does anyone have any tips on training a simple "stand"?  If she
       stops moving, she lies down.
       #Post#: 89517--------------------------------------------------
       Re: training questions
   DIR By: farmgirl
       Date: April 15, 2022, 11:13 am
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       Queenie - won't your pup stand if you hold a treat above her?
       Although I assume you've tried that.
       #Post#: 89556--------------------------------------------------
       Re: training questions
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: April 15, 2022, 11:54 am
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       If you hold it above her she sits.  You can lure her up off her
       butt for about a fiftieth of an instant if you lead away from
       her with the treat, but this only works a small percentage of
       the time.
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