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       #Post#: 34150--------------------------------------------------
       Re: training questions
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: October 27, 2021, 3:39 pm
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       --- Quote from: MayaMia link ---
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       > Our Maya was our first big dog.  Knowing she was going to be a
       big very stubborn breed, we started her in the general puppy
       training class at the local pet store as soon as she was
       eligible. We lucked out because the trainer there was a mastiff
       expert. We did go one afterwards with an individual trainer.
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       > So day 2 of puppy class, all the other puppies, you could hear
       the sound when their behind hit the ground, they were so excited
       to do it.
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       > Our Maya - stared at us, and thought about it, and thought
       some more and did nothing.
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       > The trainer kept us longer after the class, and worked with
       us. We eventually figured out neither a word nor a hand motion
       got her to react. But both together, she was happy to show off
       her sit.
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       > And my god, the down.  Our Maya would take minutes to get
       herself down. She would start going into her down, when we spoke
       down/did the hand motion, so she reacted right away.  But
       seriously it was minutes to assume the full position. 😂
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       > We would just look at her in disbelief. How can one dog make
       that big of a production to lay down 😁
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       This story brought back lovely memories of our various
       slobberdogs.  Really warmed my heart.
       #Post#: 34151--------------------------------------------------
       Re: training questions
   DIR By: TwoASAPsAgo
       Date: October 27, 2021, 3:39 pm
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       --- Quote from: muskrat link ---
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       > (Warning:  buttinski comment....
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       > I love the Adventures of Cy The Wonder Pup and the subsequent
       "Dog Whisperer" training hints.
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       > I've never had a dog, so this is really interesting stuff !
       >
       > ps.  Hope lil bro Cy heals quickly: so sorry to hear he got
       hurt on the playground : (
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       --- End Quote ---
       Thanks, Muskrat!  I am hopeful that Cyrus will make a full
       recovery.  I am just relieved that his trainer is so on top of
       this.  I am new to puppies, so it's a fascinating (frustrating?)
       new world for me too.
       #Post#: 34152--------------------------------------------------
       Re: training questions
   DIR By: TwoASAPsAgo
       Date: October 27, 2021, 3:45 pm
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       --- Quote from: Queenie link ---
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       > I guess my point is, it's OK to change things up so they work
       better for you.  Example:  LCP is not good at being still when
       she is excited.  So I give her a job to do, such as "go find me
       a toy".  So then if someone comes to the door and she is beside
       herself with excitement (thankfully she does not jump) and can't
       sit, she can go get them a toy instead.  This keeps her busy and
       the visitor is at least temporarily unmolested.
       >
       > Sitting is traditional.  It's easy to teach.  It's a good
       thing to have in your skills bag.  And if it's working for you
       then you should definitely use it.
       >
       > I just wanted to mention that it's OK to do something
       different if it works better for you and Cy.
       >
       > You really are doing fine and I'm so enjoying your stories.
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       --- End Quote ---
       Thanks! I do get what you mean. Your advice has been very
       helpful. And I enjoy your stories as well!
       #Post#: 34154--------------------------------------------------
       Re: training questions
   DIR By: TwoASAPsAgo
       Date: October 27, 2021, 3:49 pm
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       --- Quote from: MayaMia link ---
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       > And my god, the down.  Our Maya would take minutes to get
       herself down. She would start going into her down, when we spoke
       down/did the hand motion, so she reacted right away.  But
       seriously it was minutes to assume the full position. 😂
       >
       > We would just look at her in disbelief. How can one dog make
       that big of a production to lay down 😁
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Well, they are pretty big dogs, right?  Maybe it just takes
       longer to get all that mass to the floor! 😆
       #Post#: 35672--------------------------------------------------
       Re: training questions
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: October 31, 2021, 6:45 am
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       How is Cyrus doing? Feeling better?
       #Post#: 35688--------------------------------------------------
       Re: training questions
   DIR By: TwoASAPsAgo
       Date: October 31, 2021, 9:06 am
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       --- Quote from: Queenie link ---
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       > How is Cyrus doing? Feeling better?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Thanks for asking, Queenie.  It does seem as if Cy's clothes
       were confusing him. I took them off him before we went out later
       that night, and he was back to sitting at the door as usual,
       though he wasn't as fast about it and didn't look at me
       before getting up, and I felt we needed to start back at the
       beginning (meaning the door is completely closed, and I open it
       just as I "release" him).
       After a couple of clothes-free successes, we tried it again with
       clothes.  Cy was less successful than without clothes, in that I
       had to prompt him a couple of times.  But overall, he's
       progressing on that front too.
       His regular sit for all other purposes went back to normal, both
       with and without clothes, by the next day.
       So, I guess that means we're in the clear on that issue?
       I'm mostly relieved, but still a bit troubled about it all.
       Fortunately, we have a followup vax appointment with the vet
       this Friday, so he'll have a chance to check Cy out.
       It's his first visit since the ER trip two Sundays ago.
       #Post#: 35693--------------------------------------------------
       Re: training questions
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: October 31, 2021, 9:19 am
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       It all sounds fine to me. Perfectly age-appropriate. The clothes
       were a distraction. Working through distractions is about 90% of
       training.
       #Post#: 41643--------------------------------------------------
       Re: training questions
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: November 15, 2021, 10:27 am
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       How is Cy doing?
       LCP's bird dog training is haphazard at best, but she is having
       an absolute blast working scent problems in the woods.  She
       flushed four pheasant yesterday during a hike in the woods, and
       she was deliriously proud of herself.
       At home Mr Q has decided to teach her to "tidy up" by putting
       her toys in a basket.  Let's say that progress has been somewhat
       erratic.  She does, however, quite enjoy taking the toys back
       out.
       To whoever started "better go now" as a cue for elimination:
       Excellent, thank you.  No way to mistake it for anything else.
       #Post#: 43324--------------------------------------------------
       Re: training questions
   DIR By: TwoASAPsAgo
       Date: November 18, 2021, 4:40 pm
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       --- Quote from: Queenie link ---
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       > How is Cy doing?
       >
       > LCP's bird dog training is haphazard at best, but she is
       having an absolute blast working scent problems in the woods.
       She flushed four pheasant yesterday during a hike in the woods,
       and she was deliriously proud of herself.
       >
       > At home Mr Q has decided to teach her to "tidy up" by putting
       her toys in a basket.  Let's say that progress has been somewhat
       erratic.  She does, however, quite enjoy taking the toys back
       out.
       >
       > To whoever started "better go now" as a cue for elimination:
       Excellent, thank you.  No way to mistake it for anything else.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Hi!
       Honestly, LCP sounds delightful.  I'm curious to know what the
       teaching method will be to get her to tidy up.  Shaping?
       Cy is doing a lot better -- thanks for asking.  His trainer gave
       him a glowing report yesterday on how well he was behaving
       offleash with other dogs, and I've seen a noticeable improvement
       onleash too.  The happy-go-lucky bounce in his step is also
       back, so yay!
       He still hates wearing clothes, but he's almost completely back
       to normal on sitting, with or without.  I haven't tried to move
       him past "week 1" on door training, but think we're ready now.
       I'll probably jump more quickly from here to see if we can get
       back to "week 10" in three weeks or so, but will go by what
       works for him.
       Honestly, I'm still a bit weirded out by the door issue and how
       he completely lost all his training.  But if the vet is
       convinced Cy didn't have brain damage, then I guess I can let it
       go -- well, maybe when we're back up to "week 10" work.
       😆
       #Post#: 43325--------------------------------------------------
       Re: training questions
   DIR By: LabPartner
       Date: November 18, 2021, 4:46 pm
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       --- Quote from: Queenie link ---
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       > How is Cy doing?
       >
       > LCP's bird dog training is haphazard at best, but she is
       having an absolute blast working scent problems in the woods.
       She flushed four pheasant yesterday during a hike in the woods,
       and she was deliriously proud of herself.
       >
       > At home Mr Q has decided to teach her to "tidy up" by putting
       her toys in a basket.  Let's say that progress has been somewhat
       erratic.  She does, however, quite enjoy taking the toys back
       out.
       >
       > To whoever started "better go now" as a cue for elimination:
       Excellent, thank you.  No way to mistake it for anything else.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I say, "Do your doodlies."
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