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       #Post#: 7415--------------------------------------------------
       training questions
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: August 26, 2021, 10:51 am
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       I hope we can use this as a catch-all for training resources and
       tips.  I expect it will mostly be about dogs, but if anyone has
       any tips on how to get a cat to not do something he wants to do
       I'd be interested to read them.  So far I have had exactly zero
       success with Kitten, and if there was a way to measure success
       with negative numbers I'd probably have to use it.
       Anyway.  LCP is 23 weeks old, still very mouthy, and delights in
       asking the cat to play, a request the cat declines 100% of the
       time.  Today is the first day she'll have to spend about six
       daytime hours in the crate, which is making me sad.  I took her
       on a vigorous hike at 6AM (this may explain my current foul
       mood) and left her with a big fat knuckle bone to chew on, but I
       am still kind of stressed out about it.
       What are your favorite puppy training strategies?  I have to
       confess that I'm not putting as much effort into this puppy as
       the last one because, much busier job.  Thank heavens Oldest is
       doing the hard parts.
       We did puppy K and next I think we're going to try out a local
       upland game bird dog trainer.  This will be very new territory
       for us.
       #Post#: 7422--------------------------------------------------
       Re: training questions
   DIR By: AbidingDudev4.1
       Date: August 26, 2021, 11:03 am
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       --- Quote from: Queenie link ---
       >
       > I hope we can use this as a catch-all for training resources
       and tips.  I expect it will mostly be about dogs, but if anyone
       has any tips on how to get a cat to not do something he wants to
       do I'd be interested to read them.  So far I have had exactly
       zero success with Kitten, and if there was a way to measure
       success with negative numbers I'd probably have to use it.
       >
       > Anyway.  LCP is 23 weeks old, still very mouthy, and delights
       in asking the cat to play, a request the cat declines 100% of
       the time.  Today is the first day she'll have to spend about six
       daytime hours in the crate, which is making me sad.  I took her
       on a vigorous hike at 6AM (this may explain my current foul
       mood) and left her with a big fat knuckle bone to chew on, but I
       am still kind of stressed out about it.
       >
       > What are your favorite puppy training strategies?  I have to
       confess that I'm not putting as much effort into this puppy as
       the last one because, much busier job.  Thank heavens Oldest is
       doing the hard parts.
       >
       > We did puppy K and next I think we're going to try out a local
       upland game bird dog trainer.  This will be very new territory
       for us.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I mean obvious things to me were rewarding good behavior way
       more than punishing bad behavior, especially if said bad
       behavior was more than 10 seconds ago.
       Had a trainer for like 4 sessions when chance was a puppy, and
       he said she was really easy, eager to please and quick to learn,
       which makes me worry about a new puppy as the universe craves
       balance.
       The mouthy thing usually abates with the teething, no?
       #Post#: 7423--------------------------------------------------
       Re: training questions
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: August 26, 2021, 11:08 am
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       --- Quote from: AbidingDudev4.1 link ---
       >
       >
       >
       > I mean obvious things to me were rewarding good behavior way
       more than punishing bad behavior, especially if said bad
       behavior was more than 10 seconds ago.
       >
       > Had a trainer for like 4 sessions when chance was a puppy, and
       he said she was really easy, eager to please and quick to learn,
       which makes me worry about a new puppy as the universe craves
       balance.
       >
       > The mouthy thing usually abates with the teething, no?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The mouthy thing is getting marginally better with time and
       training and "maturity".  Labs are a very mouthy breed, I'm told
       this is common in retrievers.  She has a very strong need to
       hold something in her mouth nearly all the time.  I'm fine with
       this when that something is not one of my bodyparts or shoes.
       Itellyouwhat though, the retrieving drive is a wonderful thing.
       At present it wanes precipitously in the presence of any and all
       distractions, but I'm hoping that will get better with time and
       practice.
       #Post#: 11852--------------------------------------------------
       Re: training questions
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: September 5, 2021, 6:08 am
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       Does anybody have a favorite puzzle toy? We have a kong wobbler
       but we're ready for something more challenging.
       #Post#: 11905--------------------------------------------------
       Re: training questions
   DIR By: northbayteky
       Date: September 5, 2021, 11:06 am
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       The mouthy thing: Piper could go through some tennis balls. If
       you don't have a case, go ahead and invest.
       As for the cat training, you said you didn't have luck with a
       spray bottle. Have you tried putting a little vinegar in it? it
       should be set on jet, not spray for maximum effect.
       #Post#: 11906--------------------------------------------------
       Re: training questions
   DIR By: Queenie
       Date: September 5, 2021, 11:12 am
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       Kitten knows the range of the spray bottle.  He jumps on stuff
       with the aim of getting us to engage. When we reach for the
       bottle he scoots out of range.
       #Post#: 11919--------------------------------------------------
       Re: training questions
   DIR By: northbayteky
       Date: September 5, 2021, 11:44 am
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       He wants you to play with him.
       When we first got Gatsby, he was a terror sometimes, until I
       realized he was just needing activity - a LOT of activity. Maybe
       that's your little guy. He's much less of a terror now, Until he
       was about 2 1/2 or so he wanted a lot of playtime.
       #Post#: 12077--------------------------------------------------
       Re: training questions
   DIR By: Aardtacha
       Date: September 5, 2021, 9:46 pm
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       --- Quote from: Queenie link ---
       >
       > Kitten knows the range of the spray bottle.  He jumps on stuff
       with the aim of getting us to engage. When we reach for the
       bottle he scoots out of range.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Supersoakers are your friend there.
       Scam Likely very quickly figured out the range of one squirt
       bottle, but then we switched to one that had better range. Now
       we just have to reach for it and she's off of whatever it was
       she wasn't supposed to be on.
       I never tried it, but some people swear by shaking a can full of
       pebbles.
       #Post#: 12110--------------------------------------------------
       Re: training questions
   DIR By: TwoASAPsAgo
       Date: September 6, 2021, 12:12 am
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       --- Quote from: Queenie link ---
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       > Does anybody have a favorite puzzle toy? We have a kong
       wobbler but we're ready for something more challenging.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       A trainer recommended this one for Cyrus, and I love it.  It
       keeps him occupied and he doesn't growl as much at this puzzle
       compared to the other ones.  There are three inserts available
       so you can make it more challenging.  Cy will probably stay at
       one insert for a while.
  HTML https://www.amazon.com/Pet-Zone-Treat-Ball-3-Inch/dp/B00OZOQN3U/ref=mp_s_a_1_11?dchild=1&keywords=dog+puzzle+toys&qid=1630904420&sr=8-11
       His absolute favorite toy, though, is this one.  I love that it
       tires him out, doesn't require much effort from me and even
       works in my smallish kitchen (130 square feet).  I use it every
       day with him.  Of course, as a whippet/sighthound, he has a high
       prey/chase drive, so that's probably why he loves it so much.
  HTML https://www.amazon.com/DIBBATU-Interactive-Outdoor-Exercise-Training/dp/B08PNTDJ7B/ref=mp_s_a_1_14?dchild=1&keywords=Dog+Lures&qid=1630904857&sr=8-14
       #Post#: 12111--------------------------------------------------
       Re: training questions
   DIR By: kkt
       Date: September 6, 2021, 12:22 am
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       --- Quote from: Queenie link ---
       >
       > Kitten knows the range of the spray bottle.  He jumps on stuff
       with the aim of getting us to engage. When we reach for the
       bottle he scoots out of range.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Kitten is not a baby apex predator for nothing!
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