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#Post#: 6310--------------------------------------------------
I am going into self exile.
DIR By: guest97
Date: December 17, 2020, 11:51 am
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Since I came to GS I have never tried to buck the Council, and
I have always tried to act in the interest of GS, both when I
was pledged and when I was not.
However, after giving it much thought, I find Myself in a
situation where I do not feel at rest with the punishment given
to Hunter and aura over the killing of rose. I do not wish to
oppose the Council, yet I find internal difficulty in quietly
accepting the way things have turned out.
So I have decided to go into self-exile from each and every GS
Public Room, and the Corks, until the time comes when Hunter and
aura return to GS.
In the meantime I will confine My activities to My Stronghold
and Private Rooms.
In the meantime, I wish You all well.
Bosk
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Re: I am going into self exile.
DIR By: Mohr
Date: December 17, 2020, 1:28 pm
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Your insight will be missed my firend
#Post#: 6313--------------------------------------------------
Re: I am going into self exile.
DIR By: Scarlett
Date: December 17, 2020, 4:41 pm
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There are many of us in agreeance with you Bosk. I too feel the
punishment is beyond excessive and am happy to say the Council
are wrong in this and many things.
Be well Bosk x
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Re: I am going into self exile.
DIR By: flicka
Date: December 18, 2020, 10:57 pm
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When flicka read of the Council's banning of Jarl Hunter and
aura for 18 months she was in disbelief.
Like most she had read the log of aura's attack on ms rose and
was disappointed that such a long standing member of Gorean
Shores should have felt the need to behave as aura did to a non
member of our home.
Later when flicka read the Council's punishment to both Jarl
Hunter and aura and the paltry slap on the wrist to ms rose
disbelief was once more flicka's emotion, followed by
disappointment and anger.
For weeks now flicka has held her counsel, not wishing in any
way to be divisive toward the home she loves dearly, but can no
longer act in a cowardly and dishonourable manner. In Common Law
"silence denotes consent" and flicka does not consent, ie agree
with the justice of this banning.
Flicka cannot self exile from Gorean Shores, she is owned by the
Captains of this, her home, but flicka would like to openly
state that she feels that Jarl Hunter and aura were treated
unfairly and in a non Gorean manner by the Council of Captains.
Flicka urges all who are pledged and look to our home who feel
that the punishment was excessive to openly state their position
here on the cork boards and in Forum.
Flicka does not feel that this is in any way undermining the
Council of Captains but feels that Pledged Free Men and Women
and slaves of our home have a duty to stand and be counted.
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Re: I am going into self exile.
DIR By: Bretval
Date: December 19, 2020, 3:59 pm
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Will have thoughts to express on the morrow
#Post#: 6329--------------------------------------------------
Re: I am going into self exile.
DIR By: Bretval
Date: December 20, 2020, 3:51 am
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Like a few other Members I am not pleased with the sentence
given to Hunter and aura by the Council. As I have said before,
I was not aware of all the details of why aura went off on rose,
but I trust that rose must have said or done something serious
enough that would make a long standing member react in such a
matter toward a visitor. In My eyes it must always be remembered
that rose was a visitor and aura and her Master were members of
long standing.
Granted, like Me, Hunter was not one to hold back in stating His
thoughts and could be a pain in the arse for the Council. We
have both paid a price for the expressing Our true opinions..
as any true Gorean would. Which raises the question of why the
sentence laid down by the Council was so severe. Was it
justified.. or was it just an attempt to get rid of an irritant
of the Council?
To be totally open and honest I have been in contact with Hunter
since the all this came out... but I had been considering
finding a new home for the last few months anyway... and had
stayed only out of My personal loyalty to Randolph. So if the
Council wants of get of another irritant feel free... and My
meral and I will move My Home elsewhere.
As last thoughts.. aura earned punishment for not obeying when
ordered to stop and cease by the Masters in the room. My rulings
would be six months for aura...reduced to 3 months after the the
threats thown out by Elder Physician... and three months for
Hunter for not being able to contol His slave. Of course, that
leaves Uus with rose and her almost total lack of punishment...
she gets off lightly and she is not she even Gorean... she is a
sub playing house in Healer's cake shop with her Doms
permission... again she is or was a visitor... not Gorean.. or
at least was not at the time of the incident.
Something for the Council and other Pledged Patrons to think
about.
#Post#: 6331--------------------------------------------------
Re: I am going into self exile.
DIR By: Jake
Date: December 20, 2020, 12:39 pm
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My humble opinion on all of this is pretty simple. It was a shit
show from the start. There were free men in the tavern who did
little but warn aura, who according to the scribed details seems
to have ignored all demands to stop. It's tough to have an rp
with folks that do not seemingly pay attention or allow for a
post to be given and reacted to much like we profess to do
during a spar or even a dance. Slaves fought all the time and
often men would do little but wager and get drunk as well.
I have no idea what brought on the fight nor do I care. What I
do care about is having some honor around here. If we are going
to side with outsiders and not pledged members then why on Gor
have any of us pledged here if it means so little to the
Council? The point is the Council should honor it's home and
pledges as much as they expect us to do them. Now to what would
I have done if there. I think Desoto had the right idea by
trying to chain the beast aura to the post until her owner
arrived to cut her down.I would then have expected Hunter to at
the very least whip his slave for actions that reflected on any
training he had given aura. It was an embarrassment to ignore
the free in the tavern. Slaves should always make their owners
look good. Notice the supposed killing was not responded to so
perhaps the role play should have been deemed invalid to all
involved and go from there? Cooler heads prevail type of thing
and then weed out the why and if in fact as rumors stated it was
a long standing dislike then remind each that this is a Gorean
home and not Peyton Place or Revenge Central. Perhaps the
punishment should have been both rose and aura not allowed here
without their owner to see that each acts as they should?
Steps from his soapbox and tosses down the writing stick.
Jake
#Post#: 6341--------------------------------------------------
Re: I am going into self exile.
DIR By: OriginalSandman
Date: December 20, 2020, 10:39 pm
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Bosk,
I respect your decision and the right of others to offer their
opinnions.
I posted this in forum and am posting it here due to the number
of comments.
You are all welcome to express your opinions, respectfully
stated or otherwise. Remember, though you may be entitled to
your opinions, you are not entitled to your own set of facts.
The facts are:
aura attempted to murder rose
aura is owned by Hunter and he is responsible for her acts
In almost every case of wrongdoing at this level in the past,
the punishment the Council has been a permanent ban or Death.
The fact that the punishment wasn't a permanent ban or death is
in fact merciful on the part of the Council
aura has not apologized for her act nor has Hunter apologized
for her actions-- that is a fact-- and the fact of their silence
speaks volumes.
aura/Hunter have in fact chosen to attempted to manipulate
others behind the scenes.
aura has not honored the ban.
The fact is, Council of Captains investigated the occurrence and
gave each of the parties involved in this incident a chance to
speak.
The Council made the decision based on facts-- not based on who
likes who, who thinks who is more Gorean, who is whose buddy.
Further it is a fact that the Council made it clear that rose
played a part in this, and has been restricted to only being in
GS with her Master; to the best of my knowledge, she and
Wanderlust have honored that decision.
An additional fact is that there are reports that the Council
has attempted to have aura and Hunter's memberships revoked.
Those reports are incorect. We have never discussed aura's or
Hunter's memberships being cancelled or suspended. That has
never been a part of a ban in the 15 years + I have been pledged
to GS.
Further the statement made by Bretval on the corks offering his
opinion that the Council is getting rid of an irritant -- the
fact is we have tolerated plenty of irritants in GS ( including
him as a tag he has applied with his own words and not us for
the record) over my many years and will continue in the future.
The members of the Council take their responsibilities very
seriously and do not arrive at decisions lightly.
Perhaps some of you should actually consider the facts rather
than ignoring them when you form your opinions and express them.
OriginalSandman
Senior Captain
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Re: I am going into self exile.
DIR By: Kazar
Date: December 21, 2020, 9:23 pm
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I also think the banning of Hunter snd aura is excessive
I think the council took side of sweet shy innocent rose whom
isn’t Member of gs. Or knife of out ways
Over one whom is pledged been here long time
Like Bretval snd Bosk Maybe time to look for a new. Home
#Post#: 6364--------------------------------------------------
Re: I am going into self exile.
DIR By: Sophie
Date: December 22, 2020, 12:28 am
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I have read all of the above and the transcript of the night in
question.
Yes Hunter and aura are pledged members of GS. Wanderlust and
rose are guests. I care not for what ever baggage there has been
in other places. It all should be left at the door. I have seen
no evidence of rose's wrong doing at GS but assume the Council
have.
So does that mean that any pledged slave with or without her
Master's permission can go 'kill' another and effectively ban
them from GS? rose followed her Master's instructions to the
letter. she did not interact or retaliate in any way. rose has
been punished, for what ever the Council see's fit in that she
has not been back without her Master. A Master who has full
control of His slave in GS. The same can not be said for aura.
Maybe such a lengthy ban of aura and Hunter are excessive, but
as aura has made no public apology then maybe that is why no
leniency has been shown.
The whole episode seems to be splitting our home. So much side
taking behind the scenes. I have no idea if this was the purpose
of the episode or not, but that is how things have culminated.
We should be trying to attract new folk to GS, the whole episode
is having the opposite effect.
I would humble suggest that We find a way through this quagmire.
Maybe if aura apologised for, in effect trying to ban rose by
her own actions, then the Council could reconsider the time
period of the ban, I do feel a ban in necessary. A full ban, no
private rooms and stirring up more dissent, but maybe the ban
could then be for three months from the apology.
At the end of the day, We pledge to the Council, who see things
that We do not. They have the full picture and We should all be
respectful of their decisions and then try to find ways for them
to be put into practise for the sake of Our home.
Anyway I, like all pledged Members should follow our Council's
instructions. Sadly I feel many pledged are not. There is no ban
in existence if pledged members and their slaves are still
interacting with those we are ordered to ignore.
I know My views will not be popular with some, but as others
feel they should speak out, I felt I should balance the argument
a little...and hopefully we can find some sort of
reconciliation. Acceptance of an error of judgement is the first
step to healing. Hopefully the healing time can then be
shortened considerably?
Long live Gorean Shores..........
Humbly and respectfully spoken
Sophie.........
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