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Re: Rick's WIP
By: ilraenor Date: April 14, 2019, 9:40 am
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Love the yellow! I'd this going to be an ambot?
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Re: Rick's WIP
By: Rick_1138 Date: April 15, 2019, 4:12 am
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Thanks.
No, its a 32mm base for my 40k single GSC character.
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Re: Rick's WIP
By: Rick_1138 Date: April 18, 2019, 4:39 pm
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Further work on the GSC character and the base.
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Re: Rick's WIP
By: ilraenor Date: April 19, 2019, 4:09 am
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Really nice !
Is the texture on the pants stippling ?
Aren't you worried the yellow is too bright ? It's gorgeous but
it really pops and the character looks very grimdark
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Re: Rick's WIP
By: Rick_1138 Date: April 19, 2019, 5:34 am
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TBH, i have given up trying to second guess my entries on what
may or may not appeal or look good etc to the judges, if i am
discarded because the base distracts from the model, well, then
its all a bit stupid and tbh i am getting close to jacking it
all in if this year is a complete bust again, as its really
expensive and you just have no feedback so your just banging
away trying to improve and feel that its like hitting a wall all
the time.
Sorry if that's a bit nihilistic, im just all a bit fed up with
it just now, feel its just a waste of my time, and considering i
am painting for a living, its not a good place to be.
EDIT: after having a quiet word with myself and reading you
question again, yes the textured parts on the cloth (trousers)
and a bit of the sword are stippling, just trying out the
technique as it seems popular and its a fun thing to do) the
leather coat is just thin blending, i.e. very thinned paint
built up with lots of layers (Hairdryer needed to speed it up).
I didnt mean to be sharp in my reply, just going through a lot
at home with the IVF (no bad news) its just a constant
nervousness, and i feel breaking out with my commission work
isnt going to happen as FB and Instagram algorithms just mean
nothing ever gets seen, or any group you go in scream at you "No
commission painters posts", its all a bit depressing, in a fun
hobby, there are a lot of killjoys. (not aimed at you obvs, :) )
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Re: Rick's WIP
By: ilraenor Date: April 19, 2019, 7:25 am
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No offence taken, don't worry.
I completely get the "wall" sensation of the contest though. I
saw on warhammer community judges are supposed to be available
for questionning but I can't find the article so it may be
wishful thinking :/
Thanks for the info about the various techniques used.
I hope everything goes well with your commission work and at
home :)
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Re: Rick's WIP
By: PaintingLemming Date: April 22, 2019, 12:23 pm
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[quote author=Rick_1138 link=topic=25.msg303#msg303
date=1555670042]
TBH, i have given up trying to second guess my entries on what
may or may not appeal or look good etc to the judges, if i am
discarded because the base distracts from the model, well, then
its all a bit stupid and tbh i am getting close to jacking it
all in if this year is a complete bust again, as its really
expensive and you just have no feedback so your just banging
away trying to improve and feel that its like hitting a wall all
the time.
[/quote]
I think the mentality of 'jacking it all in if this year is a
complete bust' is probably the wrong one to approach competition
painting with. That's completely my opinion of course and I
can't say I've had an overwhelming amount of experience (one
Demon, Salute, many many local competitions in several stores
which are obviously not nearly on the level of GD- still
valuable however), but especially with Golden Demon, you can
never go in expecting anything.
You will, without a doubt, be able to get feedback on your work.
If somehow the judges disappear, or are busy, then there are
tens of incredibly talented painters always happy to talk, and
many of the 'Eavy Metal team on stands or roaming the halls who
will similarly give you feedback. It takes quite a bit of
courage, as I found out in the Nov Demon, but after hesitating
to approach many people for feedback there, I made the most of
the opportunity at Salute and it did me a world of good.
If your model is discarded because the base detracts from the
model, then you've just been given precise feedback on how to
improve. Next base you do, make sure it doesn't. (Send pics of
it to other painters, bring it into local store, etc.).
Don't stop second guessing your models. It's often frustrating
and demoralising but if you don't constantly question the
quality of your painting it will come as more of a surprise when
the judges do. (That is their job after all).
I don't doubt all that sounds patronising, I don't mean it to
be, I just feel it's integral to enjoying the experience of
competition painting and I've had to remind myself of it a few
times. Painting is fun. Don't take that fact away from yourself.
On a lighter note, I think the base looks really great. I'm
looking forward to seeing the piece at 'Fest.
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Re: Rick's WIP
By: Rick_1138 Date: April 22, 2019, 1:07 pm
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[quote author=PaintingLemming link=topic=25.msg306#msg306
date=1555953801]
[quote author=Rick_1138 link=topic=25.msg303#msg303
date=1555670042]
TBH, i have given up trying to second guess my entries on what
may or may not appeal or look good etc to the judges, if i am
discarded because the base distracts from the model, well, then
its all a bit stupid and tbh i am getting close to jacking it
all in if this year is a complete bust again, as its really
expensive and you just have no feedback so your just banging
away trying to improve and feel that its like hitting a wall all
the time.
[/quote]
I think the mentality of 'jacking it all in if this year is a
complete bust' is probably the wrong one to approach competition
painting with. That's completely my opinion of course and I
can't say I've had an overwhelming amount of experience (one
Demon, Salute, many many local competitions in several stores
which are obviously not nearly on the level of GD- still
valuable however), but especially with Golden Demon, you can
never go in expecting anything.
You will, without a doubt, be able to get feedback on your work.
If somehow the judges disappear, or are busy, then there are
tens of incredibly talented painters always happy to talk, and
many of the 'Eavy Metal team on stands or roaming the halls who
will similarly give you feedback. It takes quite a bit of
courage, as I found out in the Nov Demon, but after hesitating
to approach many people for feedback there, I made the most of
the opportunity at Salute and it did me a world of good.
If your model is discarded because the base detracts from the
model, then you've just been given precise feedback on how to
improve. Next base you do, make sure it doesn't. (Send pics of
it to other painters, bring it into local store, etc.).
Don't stop second guessing your models. It's often frustrating
and demoralising but if you don't constantly question the
quality of your painting it will come as more of a surprise when
the judges do. (That is their job after all).
I don't doubt all that sounds patronising, I don't mean it to
be, I just feel it's integral to enjoying the experience of
competition painting and I've had to remind myself of it a few
times. Painting is fun. Don't take that fact away from yourself.
On a lighter note, I think the base looks really great. I'm
looking forward to seeing the piece at 'Fest.
[/quote]
All good advice, and (i don't mean this in a facetious way at
all btw :) ) i have had the same chat with other painters at
events, usually at the bit we all dread, judging complete and
its been a bust year.
I am actually decent mates with a few guys who are regular
winners and i am very happy to see them at W fest each year as
its a good catch up and can look at each others models and talk
about issues and get feedback.
The main issue i have is more as i am now a sole trader and my
income isn't what it was when i had a job, i feel i have to
justify the cost of getting to Fest and spending over £300 just
to get and stay at the event gets harder to justify if for a few
years on the bounce your not getting into finalist positions
(which i have been a couple of times now but last few attempts
haven't resulted in anything.
getting feedback is great but can be very hard to do at GD as
judges are always in high demand, but i have spoken with max
falej (sp?) on twitter a few times and he gave very good
feedback.
Also going through the IVF treatments with my wife have been
very stressfull this last 12 months, and i also had a big job
interview on tuesday which i didnt get in the end though came
close) and as i work at home and a lot of my friends now live
some 50 miles away, it gets very lonely at times and the day i
posted on here about it being all a bust and may give up, i was
just quite down and in a funk.
I am working away again on my entries and have a clear couple of
weeks to work on them solely (work commitments worked out well
there) so we will see.
I think the main thing is you put huge amounts of work into
these pieces and when you dont even get into finalist pin
position and you see some other entries that have and you can
clearly see an issue or something on that model, you start
getting a bit fed up. We all do this, its because we are so
dedicated and love the competition and entering.
I wouldn't still be doing this some 7 years after my first
finalist if i thought id really jack it in ;), i just like a
moan now and then, forums are like my pub of mates.
#Post#: 308--------------------------------------------------
Re: Rick's WIP
By: Rick_1138 Date: April 26, 2019, 6:54 am
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Rounding off the details on the single figure entry and the
figures on the vehicle entry. Placed the wheels and dozer blade
on the truck for fit check, but not glued yet.
I may tone the base down with a thin sprayed wash to darken it a
bit, dont know yet.
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