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       Flat Earth and Nasa Lies
       By: guest5 Date: December 14, 2019, 9:15 am
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       Why does "everyone" believe that the earth is a spinning ball in
       a vast void called space? I underlined believe because our
       current astronomy is a belief system. If you ask people to give
       reasons that justify the globe model, they have none. They just
       believe it to be so.
       NASA is the Authority and Hollywood is the brainwashing tool
       that implanted the idea into the public perception. As Tesla
       noted many decades ago, the Body Scientific has abandoned the
       scientific method and substituted mathematics which employ
       unproven constants to obtain their desired results. In other
       words, they fake what they can not prove. And the public accepts
       the fakes, just as they accept whatever they see on teevee.
       Ergo, the name sheeple, implying a gullible flock of patsies.
       There is no (0) proof, no logic, no empirical evidence, nothing
       at all -- to back up this belief.
       Everything we are taught is a lie. Freemasons and the Church
       have pulled the wool over human eyes since the beginnings of
       time.
       Below you will find a tiny sample of the basic failures of the
       heliocentric model. Flat Earth is one of a handful of heresies
       that are banned outright on other forums. Other taboo topics
       include free energy, alternative history, the Electric Universe,
       the Atom theory hoax, and of course the legitimacy of Israel.
       Forums are destroyed for discussing any of these. Free speech is
       always in peril, as we all know too well.
       Please consider my top 10 reasons without prejudice. Am I
       confident that we lie on a flat, non-rotating surface. Well, no.
       But I know I don't on a wet spinning ball in a vacuum. "Only the
       closed mind is certain." ~ Dean Spanley
       1. Curvature. Spherical trigonometry dictates that the globe
       should exhibit a curve of 8 inches per mile squared. No
       experiments on land or water have ever proven this math to be
       accurate. On the contrary, with proper telephoto lenses, objects
       can be detected far beyond the expected curvature. Example:
       Photos of Chicago from across Lake Michigan.
       2. Atmosphere vs space vacuum. Space theoretically begins 62
       miles above the earth’s surface, at the Karman Line. The laws of
       physics say that a vacuum can not exist next to an atmosphere.
       Without a barrier to separate the two areas, the atmosphere
       would instantly escape into the hard vacuum of space. Example:
       open a tank of compressed air; the oxygen or other gases inside
       the tank will rush outside to achieve equilibrium of air
       pressure. A vacuum cannot exist next to the atmosphere.
       3. Water. Liquid water always seeks its own level. Gravity,
       which is really the function of density (weight) of objects over
       distances, cannot cause oceans to curve around the globe. Sea
       level must be consistent throughout the world. Water, in other
       words, can not curve. Example: the Pacific Ocean, sea level.
       4. Centrifugal force. If earth rotated at 1000 mph at the
       equator, nothing could withstand being thrown off of it along a
       curved or tangential path. Gravity is said to be the weakest
       force in the universe. It is, under any circumstances, unable to
       overcome the extreme speed of rotation. Gravity is actually the
       ratio of densities of adjacent objects, such as the density of
       water compared to that of air.. Examples include insects,
       clouds, smoke, other low density-objects which rise above the
       earth despite the alleged gravity and centrifugal force.
       Example: merry-go-rounds.
       5. Authorities.  Professionals in many fields --pilots,
       engineers, surveyors, gunners, artillerymen, radar operators,
       etc. -- do not account for curvature in any manner. Example:
       surveyors never adjust for earth curvature when they design
       canals, causeway bridges, railroad lines.
       6 Moon and sun. Both objects appear to the eye to be the same
       size, though the moon is around 238,000 miles away and the sun
       is 93 million miles distant. Sunlight beams deny the claim that
       rays enter earth’s atmosphere in parallel beams. Using simple
       geometry, one can determine that the triangular pattern results
       in a distance of only 3000 miles above. The moon emits a cooling
       light which illuminates only the clouds which are near it, not
       those that are further away. Example: sunlight beaming rays
       through clouds (crepuscular rays) form a triangle with a base of
       less than 8,000 miles miles
       7. Constellations. Star patterns have not altered appreciably in
       human history. Considering speeds of celestial objects which
       travel billions of miles per year in multiple directions, as
       well as earth’s own rotation, revolution around the sun,
       following the sun through the universe, we should observe some
       changes in as little as 6 months (stellar parallax). But no such
       changes have been seen in 6000 years. Example: Orion, Polaris
       in the same locations for millennia.
       8. Airplane travel. Flights to and from countries in the
       southern hemisphere always pass over countries in the north,
       even though they could refuel in places along a direct route.
       When plotted on the flat earth map, the planes show that they
       follow a straight line. Example: flights between South America,
       Africa, Australia..
       9. No Sensation of movement. If earth actually rotated and
       revolved around the sun at 67,000 mph, we should hear sonic
       booms and be swept away by winds far beyond hurricane strength.
       Examples: quiet, calm days, east-to-west winds
       10. Photographs of earth from space. There are no legitimate
       pictures or videos of earth.  All pictorial evidence is
       computer-generated, as are almost all photos of celestial
       objects. NASA even says that these photographs were created to
       “match people’s expectations.”
       Other evident fakery from space agencies, including the ISS and
       the Space Shuttle, further supports the argument that our ideas
       about space are entirely faked.
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       Re: Flat Earth and Nasa Lies
       By: Truth Date: December 14, 2019, 10:19 am
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       Unless I see things with my own eyes then I believe nothing.
       Of course I can't see everything so I just don't dwell on it!
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       Re: Flat Earth and Nasa Lies
       By: guest5 Date: December 14, 2019, 10:49 am
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       I hope this thread does not harm the forum.
       But. Even when the dogs bark, the caravan moves on.
       My background, for anyone who doesn't know me, is this.
       My education was in language and literature, though my college
       entrance exams said I should pursue science. I learned early on
       that the path to truth was not in chemistry and physics, or even
       botany, which I loved.
       Nope, it was the poets and philosophers who steered my thinking.
       I could not swallow unproven theories like the Atom, electron
       shell, Great Circle Route, other fanciful notions.
       My teachers were old school, emphasizing materials and methods
       of research, clear thinking, exposition, explication, all the
       bygone ways of using rhetoric and logic. I taught, uhhh tried to
       teach, smart students who were future electrical engineers and
       other tech professionals. Boy, were those guys ate up with the
       dumbass, as they say around here. Most could not even construct
       a topic sentence or coherent paragraph.
       And they are the people now running the show. Nasa, government
       agencies, corporations.
       Clear thinking and free speech are mostly kaput now. Our
       grandparents were more knowledgeable and cynical than your
       average modern Homo ignoranus. David Icke says we are dumb,
       drugged, and docile.
       OK, end rant and apologia.
       I now continue with my thesis: that the earth is a vast and
       irregular and motionless plane. The universe is an electric
       torus with an accretion disk in the center. Our world sits
       inside the accretion disk, as do other worlds which may be
       accessed through tunnels in oceans, large lakes, and Antarctica.
       This, on the other hand, is what tptb would have us believe. It
       is a typical cgi composite, not a real photograph. Nasa
       presented the EPIC Far Side lunar transit in 2015. It is a
       Photoshop flop, since freemasons don't need to bother making
       their products look realistic. Why should they? The taxpayers
       like fairy tales.
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       1. clouds don't move during the 5-hour transit
       2. size of the US is wrong -- at 3000 miles wide, it should be
       3/8th the diameter of the blue sphere (8000 miles)
       3. moon is 2-dimensionally flat and does not rotate clockwise as
       advertised by Nasa
       4. moon travels in a straight line while the EPIC
       "geostationary" satellite maintained an amazing fixed position
       5. earth exhibits a curious pareidolia in the appearance of an
       angry clown with one eye closed and the other one open and
       baleful (the dark object off the coast of California)
       Overall, a slipshod product, its many glaring peculiarities a
       test of human discernment.
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       Re: Flat Earth and Nasa Lies
       By: Truth Date: December 14, 2019, 11:12 am
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       'Live Each Day As If It Is Your Last, Cuz One Day You Will Be
       Right!'
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       Re: Flat Earth and Nasa Lies
       By: guest4 Date: December 14, 2019, 3:04 pm
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       Without causing 'chaos' what's your opinion on this grav?
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       Re: Flat Earth and Nasa Lies
       By: guest5 Date: December 14, 2019, 7:33 pm
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       [quote author=Prism link=topic=26.msg220#msg220 date=1576357454]
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       Without causing 'chaos' what's your opinion on this grav?
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       What chaos? I am used to doing the heavy lifting, wordwise, when
       people post a video with no context, no background, no math or
       science.
       This one does not show the math on the screen. I'd guess that
       atmospheric comprehension and the vanishing point of human
       eyesight obscure the target. Place a coin on its edge on a
       table. Move it away from your view at the same table top height.
       The same optical illusion will occur, as the coin will seemingly
       disappear from the bottom up.  LOP's Han Sole used to play this
       trick on people in pubs.
       Otoh, we have dozens of FE videos which do supply details:
       observer height, distance to target, height of target.
       Rob Skiba, Taboo Conspiracy, and other Youtubers have made
       videos that exceed this one in attention to spherical
       trigonometry. While I appreciate all videos, I understand that
       they rely on memory of numbers.
       Whereas photos have all particulars right there in front of
       curious eyes.
       Notice the obscuring of the horizon line in this picture of
       Chicago. Even the tallest building , the Willis Tower, should be
       under the curve.
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       Re: Flat Earth and Nasa Lies
       By: Curious Date: December 14, 2019, 9:53 pm
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       The firmament: Rocket hits the Dome
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       Flat Earth British
       MARTIN'S WORK WILL HAVE YOU QUESTIONING EVERYTHING YOU KNOW,
       OR THOUGHT YOU KNEW...
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       o/
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       Re: Flat Earth and Nasa Lies
       By: Curious Date: December 14, 2019, 9:54 pm
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       Re: Flat Earth and Nasa Lies
       By: guest5 Date: December 16, 2019, 4:00 pm
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       [quote author=Curious link=topic=26.msg226#msg226
       date=1576382031]
       The firmament: Rocket hits the Dome
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       Flat Earth British
       MARTIN'S WORK WILL HAVE YOU QUESTIONING EVERYTHING YOU KNOW,
       OR THOUGHT YOU KNEW...
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       o/
       [/quote]
       Flat Earth British is being hit hard by the Establishment now.
       He is more my speed than other other Youtuber. Most of his
       videos now are about faked history and resets. The history hoax
       should be a new thread.
       Another forum is laughing at flat earth's lack of evidence. So I
       posted this.
       How far away is space?
       The Body Scientific says it's 100 km up, about 62 miles.
       The so-called Karman line is where air pressure drops to zero.
       Our spinning ball is rotating 1000 mph and orbiting the sun at
       66,600 mph and the whole solar system zooms along at .5 million
       mph.
       And our atmosphere sticks like glue to earth.
       And a total vacuum with a torr of 0.00 surrounds it.
       And fluffy clouds also travel those speeds, neither falling down
       to earth's gravity not drifting off into a total vacuum.
       Isn't science fascinating?
       just think, here is air, and a few dozen miles away is a vacuum.
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       Re: Flat Earth and Nasa Lies
       By: Curious Date: December 16, 2019, 4:52 pm
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       The Moon Measures a Month, which is all I know of the Moon
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